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  #21  
Old December 30th 04, 10:18 PM
paul
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Yep you will end up spending more time on the computer sorting pictures
than with film.

Satoshi wrote:

Default setting was 5mp. But it allows to change from 1 to 5 mp.
I am just learning.
In fact, film camera is a lot easier to handle than digital camera because
we do not have to worry about pixels, dpi and x by x size, etc. Digicam is
a pain. Satoshi

"Ben Thomas" wrote in message
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Satoshi wrote:

150 dpi is usable for prints (but not very good) so if you were only
doing 4x5 snapshots 750x600 could be used,


Paul, for newbies, digicam math seems to require an advanced math
degree:-)

I feel that 4 x 5 size would be very convenient. When you talk about 750
x 600 pixel,
what mp should I set for cameras? Satoshi


Can you tell us what MP settings your camera has?


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  #22  
Old December 30th 04, 10:18 PM
paul
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Yep you will end up spending more time on the computer sorting pictures
than with film.

Satoshi wrote:

Default setting was 5mp. But it allows to change from 1 to 5 mp.
I am just learning.
In fact, film camera is a lot easier to handle than digital camera because
we do not have to worry about pixels, dpi and x by x size, etc. Digicam is
a pain. Satoshi

"Ben Thomas" wrote in message
...

Satoshi wrote:

150 dpi is usable for prints (but not very good) so if you were only
doing 4x5 snapshots 750x600 could be used,


Paul, for newbies, digicam math seems to require an advanced math
degree:-)

I feel that 4 x 5 size would be very convenient. When you talk about 750
x 600 pixel,
what mp should I set for cameras? Satoshi


Can you tell us what MP settings your camera has?


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My Digital World:
Kodak DX6490, Canon i9950, Pioneer A05;
Hitachi 37" HD plasma display, DGTEC 2000A,
Denon 2800, H/K AVR4500, Whatmough Encore;
Sony Ericsson K700i, Palm Tungsten T.

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  #23  
Old December 30th 04, 10:20 PM
Ben Thomas
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If you are going to print a 5x4 you should use at least the 3MP setting.

Satoshi wrote:
Default setting was 5mp. But it allows to change from 1 to 5 mp.
I am just learning.
In fact, film camera is a lot easier to handle than digital camera because
we do not have to worry about pixels, dpi and x by x size, etc. Digicam is
a pain. Satoshi




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Hitachi 37" HD plasma display, DGTEC 2000A,
Denon 2800, H/K AVR4500, Whatmough Encore;
Sony Ericsson K700i, Palm Tungsten T.

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  #24  
Old December 30th 04, 10:20 PM
Ben Thomas
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If you are going to print a 5x4 you should use at least the 3MP setting.

Satoshi wrote:
Default setting was 5mp. But it allows to change from 1 to 5 mp.
I am just learning.
In fact, film camera is a lot easier to handle than digital camera because
we do not have to worry about pixels, dpi and x by x size, etc. Digicam is
a pain. Satoshi




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Denon 2800, H/K AVR4500, Whatmough Encore;
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  #25  
Old December 30th 04, 10:49 PM
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you should use at least the 3MP setting.

I will do that. Thanks. Satoshi

"Ben Thomas" wrote in message
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If you are going to print a 5x4
My Digital World:

Kodak DX6490, Canon i9950, Pioneer A05;
Hitachi 37" HD plasma display, DGTEC 2000A,
Denon 2800, H/K AVR4500, Whatmough Encore;
Sony Ericsson K700i, Palm Tungsten T.

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  #26  
Old December 30th 04, 10:53 PM
Satoshi
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Thanks.
That stuff was already installed.
I will take a look at that.

Many thanks, Paul.

Satoshi

"paul" wrote in message
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There is just one file on their site called "all-plugins.zip". When
installed you just type shift-j to rotate a picture permanently.

In the lower left while viewing a picture you should see the resolution in
pixels, simply divide each by 200 to find how big that prints in inches.
Even on your 1MP setting it's probably a bit too large for emailing so you
will need to resize so just use the 5MP setting.

Satoshi wrote:

I use that program all the time.


the plugins too for lossless rotation.



What's name of this plugin? Satoshi


"paul" wrote in message
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Download irfanview at http://www.irfanview.com and download the plugins
too for lossless rotation. It's free and lightning fast. It will take a
little studying to learn how to batch reduce but it's worth it. Other
programs will do this & you probably got something with your camera but
this is the fastest. It's a little bit geeky with lots of options but
worth learning.


Once set up, it's as simple as typing "B" for batch, "add all", create a
new folder, move into that & chose to output into that & click "start" &
hit the escape key to dismiss the program & you are ready to go.




  #27  
Old December 30th 04, 11:41 PM
Mark B.
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"paul" wrote in message
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150 dpi is usable for prints (but not very good) so if you were only doing
4x5 snapshots 750x600 could be used, 300dpi is very good so twice that
size at 1500x1200 but you really would want to shoot at full size in case
you want to crop or get a rare wonderful picture that you want to print at
8x10. Use irfanview to batch resize for emailing at a size more like
750x600 or smaller. It is another step but once you get the hang of it,
not too difficult. The only reason to shoot low res is if you don't have
enough memory & are certain you won't need to make big prints.


That was a very confusing answer for something very simple. For viewing
on-screen such as on the web or for e-mailing, forget completely about
worrying about dpi. It's meaningless for viewing on an electronic display.
For Satoshi - there should have been at least a basic image editing program
included with the camera. Use it to resize the image to 640 x 480 pixels.
When you re-save the image, be sure to use a different name. I usually use
a compression level (quality level) when saving to keep the image size to
100k or less for e-mailing.

Mark


  #28  
Old December 30th 04, 11:41 PM
Mark B.
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"paul" wrote in message
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150 dpi is usable for prints (but not very good) so if you were only doing
4x5 snapshots 750x600 could be used, 300dpi is very good so twice that
size at 1500x1200 but you really would want to shoot at full size in case
you want to crop or get a rare wonderful picture that you want to print at
8x10. Use irfanview to batch resize for emailing at a size more like
750x600 or smaller. It is another step but once you get the hang of it,
not too difficult. The only reason to shoot low res is if you don't have
enough memory & are certain you won't need to make big prints.


That was a very confusing answer for something very simple. For viewing
on-screen such as on the web or for e-mailing, forget completely about
worrying about dpi. It's meaningless for viewing on an electronic display.
For Satoshi - there should have been at least a basic image editing program
included with the camera. Use it to resize the image to 640 x 480 pixels.
When you re-save the image, be sure to use a different name. I usually use
a compression level (quality level) when saving to keep the image size to
100k or less for e-mailing.

Mark


  #29  
Old December 30th 04, 11:47 PM
RonFrank
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I would shoot at the highest res possible. You can always downsize, but
uprezzing results in loss of detail even if there are some very fine
products to do this.

A 5mpix camera will produce very good 8x10's and even 11x14's if the image
is shot well. Downsizing images is easy, and there are a ton of tools that
do this. Make sure to save the original.

Emailing even small images (like 300k) can be very hard on people who have
dial up connections. PS provides approximate download times when you resize.
Another way to share images is by putting them on a site, and sending the
link. This allows people with slower connections the option of viewing
smallish thumbnails, and then they can choose which images they may want to
view larger.

With email if you send say five 300K images to an individual with a slow
connection, that email spins and spins until it is downloaded, and will
block all other mail. If all the people you email have good bandwidth, then
of course this is no issue.

Ron


"Satoshi" wrote in message
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Our family member got new Sony Cybershot 5 MP cameras.
They were great cameras. The default setting of the cameras was 5 mp.
I am wondering what MP do you use for ordinary shooting.
5mp pictures were great but its 5mp size/picture is not so convenient for
emailing.
I like to learn from experienced people what mp is just enough to print
reasonable pictures.

Satoshi



  #30  
Old December 30th 04, 11:47 PM
RonFrank
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I would shoot at the highest res possible. You can always downsize, but
uprezzing results in loss of detail even if there are some very fine
products to do this.

A 5mpix camera will produce very good 8x10's and even 11x14's if the image
is shot well. Downsizing images is easy, and there are a ton of tools that
do this. Make sure to save the original.

Emailing even small images (like 300k) can be very hard on people who have
dial up connections. PS provides approximate download times when you resize.
Another way to share images is by putting them on a site, and sending the
link. This allows people with slower connections the option of viewing
smallish thumbnails, and then they can choose which images they may want to
view larger.

With email if you send say five 300K images to an individual with a slow
connection, that email spins and spins until it is downloaded, and will
block all other mail. If all the people you email have good bandwidth, then
of course this is no issue.

Ron


"Satoshi" wrote in message
...
Our family member got new Sony Cybershot 5 MP cameras.
They were great cameras. The default setting of the cameras was 5 mp.
I am wondering what MP do you use for ordinary shooting.
5mp pictures were great but its 5mp size/picture is not so convenient for
emailing.
I like to learn from experienced people what mp is just enough to print
reasonable pictures.

Satoshi



 




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