WalMart and jpeg printing

nosredna wrote:
In article ,
Kevin McMurtrie wrote:


In article ,
nosredna wrote:


On my Macintosh, I converted a friend's wedding photo from tiff to jpeg
and burned it to a CD for a friend so she could have WalMart make it
into Christmas cards. I mailed it off to her, and three weeks later she
called and said WalMart did a test print and it "doesn't look right." I
have no idea what she means; her description over the phone didn't help
me at all. (She lives several hours away, so I can't just drop by to see
it.) She said she took it to KMart and Staples also--same problem. While
on the phone I suggested she try opening it on her PC, but she got an
error message ("jpeg file has errors" or something like that). I tried
it in my daughter's Windows 98 PC and I get the same error message. But
it opens fine on my husband's PC at work (with Windows XP). And of
course it opens and prints fine on my Mac. I burned a new CD and went to
my local WalMart to test it. It showed up on the photo machine screen,
but I didn't do a test print. (Am I correct in assuming that if I could
see it on the WalMart screen it would probably print correctly? I've
never used one of those photo machines.) I plan to mail it to her
tomorrow, but I just remembered that I converted to jpeg from a (tiff)
cmyk file. Should I have converted it from the RGB version instead--or
does the color space not matter when converting to jpeg?

Some versions of Windoze can't handle the Mac-specific data that's added
to a CD even though it's perfectly within specifications.

Try Shutterfly. You can create, preview, address, and order your
Christmas cards online.

http://www.shutterfly.com


Thanks for the recommendation, but I'm not the one who's doing
cards--the friend is. I reconverted the tiff file to jpeg, but I did it
from an RGB version this time. After all that, I read on another thread
that some PCs and photo machines can't read a file if it has *lower
case* .jpg suffix instead of .JPG! Oh well, I used lower case--I don't
want to burn another CD at this point.

Hi...

If it was case sensitive Walmart would have said there
are no pictures on the cd, instead of they don't look
right

However - just a thought - seeing she's a distance away,
and time for Christmas cards is getting close, why don't
you experiment a little and email your tests to her.
(even if she doesn't have a computer and/or email, surely
a neighbor or friend would help her out)

Then she can print them for a test - doesn't have to be
more expensive Christmas cards, just test with everyday
25 cent or so prints.

Ken

nosredna wrote:
In article ,
Kevin McMurtrie wrote:


In article ,
nosredna wrote:


On my Macintosh, I converted a friend's wedding photo from tiff to jpeg
and burned it to a CD for a friend so she could have WalMart make it
into Christmas cards. I mailed it off to her, and three weeks later she
called and said WalMart did a test print and it "doesn't look right." I
have no idea what she means; her description over the phone didn't help
me at all. (She lives several hours away, so I can't just drop by to see
it.) She said she took it to KMart and Staples also--same problem. While
on the phone I suggested she try opening it on her PC, but she got an
error message ("jpeg file has errors" or something like that). I tried
it in my daughter's Windows 98 PC and I get the same error message. But
it opens fine on my husband's PC at work (with Windows XP). And of
course it opens and prints fine on my Mac. I burned a new CD and went to
my local WalMart to test it. It showed up on the photo machine screen,
but I didn't do a test print. (Am I correct in assuming that if I could
see it on the WalMart screen it would probably print correctly? I've
never used one of those photo machines.) I plan to mail it to her
tomorrow, but I just remembered that I converted to jpeg from a (tiff)
cmyk file. Should I have converted it from the RGB version instead--or
does the color space not matter when converting to jpeg?

Some versions of Windoze can't handle the Mac-specific data that's added
to a CD even though it's perfectly within specifications.

Try Shutterfly. You can create, preview, address, and order your
Christmas cards online.

http://www.shutterfly.com


Thanks for the recommendation, but I'm not the one who's doing
cards--the friend is. I reconverted the tiff file to jpeg, but I did it
from an RGB version this time. After all that, I read on another thread
that some PCs and photo machines can't read a file if it has *lower
case* .jpg suffix instead of .JPG! Oh well, I used lower case--I don't
want to burn another CD at this point.

Hi...

If it was case sensitive Walmart would have said there
are no pictures on the cd, instead of they don't look
right

However - just a thought - seeing she's a distance away,
and time for Christmas cards is getting close, why don't
you experiment a little and email your tests to her.
(even if she doesn't have a computer and/or email, surely
a neighbor or friend would help her out)

Then she can print them for a test - doesn't have to be
more expensive Christmas cards, just test with everyday
25 cent or so prints.

Ken

"Michael Meissner" wrote in message
...
nosredna writes:

On my Macintosh, I converted a friend's wedding photo from tiff to jpeg
and burned it to a CD for a friend so she could have WalMart make it
into Christmas cards. I mailed it off to her, and three weeks later she
called and said WalMart did a test print and it "doesn't look right." I
have no idea what she means; her description over the phone didn't help
me at all. (She lives several hours away, so I can't just drop by to see
it.) She said she took it to KMart and Staples also--same problem. While
on the phone I suggested she try opening it on her PC, but she got an
error message ("jpeg file has errors" or something like that). I tried
it in my daughter's Windows 98 PC and I get the same error message. But
it opens fine on my husband's PC at work (with Windows XP). And of
course it opens and prints fine on my Mac. I burned a new CD and went to
my local WalMart to test it. It showed up on the photo machine screen,
but I didn't do a test print. (Am I correct in assuming that if I could
see it on the WalMart screen it would probably print correctly? I've
never used one of those photo machines.) I plan to mail it to her
tomorrow, but I just remembered that I converted to jpeg from a (tiff)
cmyk file. Should I have converted it from the RGB version instead--or
does the color space not matter when converting to jpeg?

Yes the color space matters. In my area at least, Walmart uses Fuji
machines
for the 1 hour printing, and Kodak dye-subs for the instant prints (which
is
more expensive). For the Fuji machines, you want to make sure the JPG is
in
the sRGB color space (evidently most/all of the Fuji machines ignore any
color
space indications in the EXIF header).

After some bad prints, I have been stopped printing at Walmart, since they
now
crank up the auto-correction and boost the saturation which took pictures
that
used to print fine and now turn them into garish ugly prints (presumably
the
majority of prints they deal with look better with this, or else everybody
else
thinks they do). However, you may be able to request them not to do any
corrections. If I don't print it myself, I will send out my pictures to
mpix.com (shutterfly.com and ezprints.com are other places that I like).

--
Michael Meissner
email:
http://www.the-meissners.org

Not able to read the JPG:
Make sure the JPGs are NOT saved as progressive format. It's a special
format for the web browser mainly.

And last, to get a better color matching, you should convert the JPG to the
target color profile for that particular store which might be found he
http://drycreekphoto.com/. Using sRGB is safe but you might not utilize all
the capability of that printer. Attaching the ICC profiles to JPG does NOT
work.

"Michael Meissner" wrote in message
...
nosredna writes:

On my Macintosh, I converted a friend's wedding photo from tiff to jpeg
and burned it to a CD for a friend so she could have WalMart make it
into Christmas cards. I mailed it off to her, and three weeks later she
called and said WalMart did a test print and it "doesn't look right." I
have no idea what she means; her description over the phone didn't help
me at all. (She lives several hours away, so I can't just drop by to see
it.) She said she took it to KMart and Staples also--same problem. While
on the phone I suggested she try opening it on her PC, but she got an
error message ("jpeg file has errors" or something like that). I tried
it in my daughter's Windows 98 PC and I get the same error message. But
it opens fine on my husband's PC at work (with Windows XP). And of
course it opens and prints fine on my Mac. I burned a new CD and went to
my local WalMart to test it. It showed up on the photo machine screen,
but I didn't do a test print. (Am I correct in assuming that if I could
see it on the WalMart screen it would probably print correctly? I've
never used one of those photo machines.) I plan to mail it to her
tomorrow, but I just remembered that I converted to jpeg from a (tiff)
cmyk file. Should I have converted it from the RGB version instead--or
does the color space not matter when converting to jpeg?

Yes the color space matters. In my area at least, Walmart uses Fuji
machines
for the 1 hour printing, and Kodak dye-subs for the instant prints (which
is
more expensive). For the Fuji machines, you want to make sure the JPG is
in
the sRGB color space (evidently most/all of the Fuji machines ignore any
color
space indications in the EXIF header).

After some bad prints, I have been stopped printing at Walmart, since they
now
crank up the auto-correction and boost the saturation which took pictures
that
used to print fine and now turn them into garish ugly prints (presumably
the
majority of prints they deal with look better with this, or else everybody
else
thinks they do). However, you may be able to request them not to do any
corrections. If I don't print it myself, I will send out my pictures to
mpix.com (shutterfly.com and ezprints.com are other places that I like).

--
Michael Meissner
email:
http://www.the-meissners.org

Not able to read the JPG:
Make sure the JPGs are NOT saved as progressive format. It's a special
format for the web browser mainly.

And last, to get a better color matching, you should convert the JPG to the
target color profile for that particular store which might be found he
http://drycreekphoto.com/. Using sRGB is safe but you might not utilize all
the capability of that printer. Attaching the ICC profiles to JPG does NOT
work.

nosredna wrote:
On my Macintosh, I converted a friend's wedding photo from tiff to jpeg
and burned it to a CD for a friend so she could have WalMart make it
into Christmas cards. I mailed it off to her, and three weeks later she
called and said WalMart did a test print and it "doesn't look right." I
have no idea what she means; her description over the phone didn't help
me at all. (She lives several hours away, so I can't just drop by to see
it.) She said she took it to KMart and Staples also--same problem. While
on the phone I suggested she try opening it on her PC, but she got an
error message ("jpeg file has errors" or something like that). I tried
it in my daughter's Windows 98 PC and I get the same error message. But
it opens fine on my husband's PC at work (with Windows XP). And of
course it opens and prints fine on my Mac. I burned a new CD and went to
my local WalMart to test it. It showed up on the photo machine screen,
but I didn't do a test print. (Am I correct in assuming that if I could
see it on the WalMart screen it would probably print correctly? I've
never used one of those photo machines.) I plan to mail it to her
tomorrow, but I just remembered that I converted to jpeg from a (tiff)
cmyk file. Should I have converted it from the RGB version instead--or
does the color space not matter when converting to jpeg?

I suspect it is a Mac/Windows problem. While Macs can open PC files, Win
98 and probably WalMart's big machine cannot open Mac files.
Apparently the machine you tried at the customer Kiosk could open the
Mac generated CD. Perhaps it uses something akin to Win Xp.
Win Xp can open Mac files, so that is why your husband's computer was
successful.
If possible, burn the images on a PC and send those to you friend.

nosredna wrote:
On my Macintosh, I converted a friend's wedding photo from tiff to jpeg
and burned it to a CD for a friend so she could have WalMart make it
into Christmas cards. I mailed it off to her, and three weeks later she
called and said WalMart did a test print and it "doesn't look right." I
have no idea what she means; her description over the phone didn't help
me at all. (She lives several hours away, so I can't just drop by to see
it.) She said she took it to KMart and Staples also--same problem. While
on the phone I suggested she try opening it on her PC, but she got an
error message ("jpeg file has errors" or something like that). I tried
it in my daughter's Windows 98 PC and I get the same error message. But
it opens fine on my husband's PC at work (with Windows XP). And of
course it opens and prints fine on my Mac. I burned a new CD and went to
my local WalMart to test it. It showed up on the photo machine screen,
but I didn't do a test print. (Am I correct in assuming that if I could
see it on the WalMart screen it would probably print correctly? I've
never used one of those photo machines.) I plan to mail it to her
tomorrow, but I just remembered that I converted to jpeg from a (tiff)
cmyk file. Should I have converted it from the RGB version instead--or
does the color space not matter when converting to jpeg?

I suspect it is a Mac/Windows problem. While Macs can open PC files, Win
98 and probably WalMart's big machine cannot open Mac files.
Apparently the machine you tried at the customer Kiosk could open the
Mac generated CD. Perhaps it uses something akin to Win Xp.
Win Xp can open Mac files, so that is why your husband's computer was
successful.
If possible, burn the images on a PC and send those to you friend.

My wife brought a cd with pictures (copied from the CF card to the cd with
Windows Explorer - XP Pro) taken on a Cannon S50, to Kinko's and they said they
couldn't print them. I can't imagine why.

My wife brought a cd with pictures (copied from the CF card to the cd with
Windows Explorer - XP Pro) taken on a Cannon S50, to Kinko's and they said they
couldn't print them. I can't imagine why.

GWB wrote:
My wife brought a cd with pictures (copied from the CF card to the cd with
Windows Explorer - XP Pro) taken on a Cannon S50, to Kinko's and they said
they
couldn't print them. I can't imagine why.

I guess you know that this copy operation will not work. You need to use a CD
recording program to burn files to a CD.

---Bob Gross---

"Robertwgross" wrote in message
...
GWB wrote:
My wife brought a cd with pictures (copied from the CF card to the cd
with
Windows Explorer - XP Pro) taken on a Cannon S50, to Kinko's and they
said
they
couldn't print them. I can't imagine why.

I guess you know that this copy operation will not work. You need to use a
CD
recording program to burn files to a CD.

---Bob Gross---

Except....that it does work...sort of. With WinXP a user can copy to a CDR
drive and use the built-in burner software. The poster doesn't say that he
did this...but the Kinko operator didn't say the disc was empty....they said
they could not print what was on the disc.