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Aftermarket lens makers continue to cater solely to Canon and Nikon
"RichA" wrote in message
... American companies come to Canada to gain at most an extra 10% on their bottom line. Apparently, aftermarket lens companies don't see the benefit in doing with with Sony, Olympus, Panasonic or Pentax (well, some support Pentax.). Are you saying that the lenses Sigma manufactures in 4/3, Sony, and Pentax mounts are not available in Canada? |
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Aftermarket lens makers continue to cater solely to Canon and Nikon
Tamron and Tokina are making lenses in Sony mount.
"RichA" wrote in message ... On Aug 11, 2:22 pm, "Pete Stavrakoglou" wrote: "RichA" wrote in message ... American companies come to Canada to gain at most an extra 10% on their bottom line. Apparently, aftermarket lens companies don't see the benefit in doing with with Sony, Olympus, Panasonic or Pentax (well, some support Pentax.). Are you saying that the lenses Sigma manufactures in 4/3, Sony, and Pentax mounts are not available in Canada? No, Sigma unfortunately is the only aftermarket company that actually makes lenses for those brands outside of some exotics like Voigtlander, but they are slowly eliminating them, at least for Olympus. Tamron and Tokina both make better lenses on average than Sigma but only for Canon and Nikon. |
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Aftermarket lens makers continue to cater solely to Canon and Nikon
"Bruce" wrote in message
... On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 14:42:53 -0700 (PDT), RichA wrote: On Aug 11, 2:22 pm, "Pete Stavrakoglou" wrote: "RichA" wrote in message ... American companies come to Canada to gain at most an extra 10% on their bottom line. Apparently, aftermarket lens companies don't see the benefit in doing with with Sony, Olympus, Panasonic or Pentax (well, some support Pentax.). Are you saying that the lenses Sigma manufactures in 4/3, Sony, and Pentax mounts are not available in Canada? No, Sigma unfortunately is the only aftermarket company that actually makes lenses for those brands outside of some exotics like Voigtlander, but they are slowly eliminating them, at least for Olympus. Tamron and Tokina both make better lenses on average than Sigma but only for Canon and Nikon. There is no business opportunity for independent lens manufacturers in Four Thirds, nor in Micro Four Thirds. That's because the two core manufacturers in FT/MFT, Panasonic and Olympus, both offer high quality lenses at surprisingly low prices. Anyway, Sigma was never really committed to Four Thirds. Sigma only offered some of its existing Third Rate lenses with Four Thirds mount. I think there is a certain level of niche business for Sigma in 4/3 such as the 50-500mm Bigma. They've got quite a few lenses that fall into the niches that Oly and Panasonic don't fill. But, as you say, they don't seem very committed to 4/3. The previous version of the Bigma was available in 4/3 mount yet the new one is not. |
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Aftermarket lens makers continue to cater solely to Canon and Nikon
"Pete Stavrakoglou" wrote in message
... "Bruce" wrote in message ... On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 14:42:53 -0700 (PDT), RichA wrote: On Aug 11, 2:22 pm, "Pete Stavrakoglou" wrote: "RichA" wrote in message ... American companies come to Canada to gain at most an extra 10% on their bottom line. Apparently, aftermarket lens companies don't see the benefit in doing with with Sony, Olympus, Panasonic or Pentax (well, some support Pentax.). Are you saying that the lenses Sigma manufactures in 4/3, Sony, and Pentax mounts are not available in Canada? No, Sigma unfortunately is the only aftermarket company that actually makes lenses for those brands outside of some exotics like Voigtlander, but they are slowly eliminating them, at least for Olympus. Tamron and Tokina both make better lenses on average than Sigma but only for Canon and Nikon. There is no business opportunity for independent lens manufacturers in Four Thirds, nor in Micro Four Thirds. That's because the two core manufacturers in FT/MFT, Panasonic and Olympus, both offer high quality lenses at surprisingly low prices. Anyway, Sigma was never really committed to Four Thirds. Sigma only offered some of its existing Third Rate lenses with Four Thirds mount. I think there is a certain level of niche business for Sigma in 4/3 such as the 50-500mm Bigma. They've got quite a few lenses that fall into the niches that Oly and Panasonic don't fill. But, as you say, they don't seem very committed to 4/3. The previous version of the Bigma was available in 4/3 mount yet the new one is not. Based on my personal experiences which you witnessed, Sigma ought to concentrate on quality control of the mounts they currently make. -- Peter |
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Aftermarket lens makers continue to cater solely to Canon and Nikon
"Peter" wrote in message
... "Pete Stavrakoglou" wrote in message ... "Bruce" wrote in message ... On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 14:42:53 -0700 (PDT), RichA wrote: On Aug 11, 2:22 pm, "Pete Stavrakoglou" wrote: "RichA" wrote in message ... American companies come to Canada to gain at most an extra 10% on their bottom line. Apparently, aftermarket lens companies don't see the benefit in doing with with Sony, Olympus, Panasonic or Pentax (well, some support Pentax.). Are you saying that the lenses Sigma manufactures in 4/3, Sony, and Pentax mounts are not available in Canada? No, Sigma unfortunately is the only aftermarket company that actually makes lenses for those brands outside of some exotics like Voigtlander, but they are slowly eliminating them, at least for Olympus. Tamron and Tokina both make better lenses on average than Sigma but only for Canon and Nikon. There is no business opportunity for independent lens manufacturers in Four Thirds, nor in Micro Four Thirds. That's because the two core manufacturers in FT/MFT, Panasonic and Olympus, both offer high quality lenses at surprisingly low prices. Anyway, Sigma was never really committed to Four Thirds. Sigma only offered some of its existing Third Rate lenses with Four Thirds mount. I think there is a certain level of niche business for Sigma in 4/3 such as the 50-500mm Bigma. They've got quite a few lenses that fall into the niches that Oly and Panasonic don't fill. But, as you say, they don't seem very committed to 4/3. The previous version of the Bigma was available in 4/3 mount yet the new one is not. Based on my personal experiences which you witnessed, Sigma ought to concentrate on quality control of the mounts they currently make. -- Peter Since that episode, I've gotten a Tokina lens that fits tight like that Sigma you tested. A fellow member of the Suffolk group I belong to reported a similar issue with a Nikon lens he had that he returned for a replacement. I've never had that probelm with any Sigma lens but only with one Tokina. There are quality issues with all makes, not that I'm defending Sigma. |
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Aftermarket lens makers continue to cater solely to Canon and Nikon
"Pete Stavrakoglou" wrote in message
... "Peter" wrote in message ... "Pete Stavrakoglou" wrote in message ... "Bruce" wrote in message ... On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 14:42:53 -0700 (PDT), RichA wrote: On Aug 11, 2:22 pm, "Pete Stavrakoglou" wrote: "RichA" wrote in message ... American companies come to Canada to gain at most an extra 10% on their bottom line. Apparently, aftermarket lens companies don't see the benefit in doing with with Sony, Olympus, Panasonic or Pentax (well, some support Pentax.). Are you saying that the lenses Sigma manufactures in 4/3, Sony, and Pentax mounts are not available in Canada? No, Sigma unfortunately is the only aftermarket company that actually makes lenses for those brands outside of some exotics like Voigtlander, but they are slowly eliminating them, at least for Olympus. Tamron and Tokina both make better lenses on average than Sigma but only for Canon and Nikon. There is no business opportunity for independent lens manufacturers in Four Thirds, nor in Micro Four Thirds. That's because the two core manufacturers in FT/MFT, Panasonic and Olympus, both offer high quality lenses at surprisingly low prices. Anyway, Sigma was never really committed to Four Thirds. Sigma only offered some of its existing Third Rate lenses with Four Thirds mount. I think there is a certain level of niche business for Sigma in 4/3 such as the 50-500mm Bigma. They've got quite a few lenses that fall into the niches that Oly and Panasonic don't fill. But, as you say, they don't seem very committed to 4/3. The previous version of the Bigma was available in 4/3 mount yet the new one is not. Based on my personal experiences which you witnessed, Sigma ought to concentrate on quality control of the mounts they currently make. -- Peter Since that episode, I've gotten a Tokina lens that fits tight like that Sigma you tested. A fellow member of the Suffolk group I belong to reported a similar issue with a Nikon lens he had that he returned for a replacement. I've never had that probelm with any Sigma lens but only with one Tokina. There are quality issues with all makes, not that I'm defending Sigma. I can understand and even forgive QC issues. What drove me up the wall was when Tim, the Sigma rep kept trying to BS me by telling me it was supposed to be that way. If one of my employees ever did the equivalent, I would have canned him on the spot. You don't lie to customers. -- Peter |
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Aftermarket lens makers continue to cater solely to Canon and Nikon
"Peter" wrote in message
... "Pete Stavrakoglou" wrote in message ... "Peter" wrote in message ... "Pete Stavrakoglou" wrote in message ... "Bruce" wrote in message ... On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 14:42:53 -0700 (PDT), RichA wrote: On Aug 11, 2:22 pm, "Pete Stavrakoglou" wrote: "RichA" wrote in message ... American companies come to Canada to gain at most an extra 10% on their bottom line. Apparently, aftermarket lens companies don't see the benefit in doing with with Sony, Olympus, Panasonic or Pentax (well, some support Pentax.). Are you saying that the lenses Sigma manufactures in 4/3, Sony, and Pentax mounts are not available in Canada? No, Sigma unfortunately is the only aftermarket company that actually makes lenses for those brands outside of some exotics like Voigtlander, but they are slowly eliminating them, at least for Olympus. Tamron and Tokina both make better lenses on average than Sigma but only for Canon and Nikon. There is no business opportunity for independent lens manufacturers in Four Thirds, nor in Micro Four Thirds. That's because the two core manufacturers in FT/MFT, Panasonic and Olympus, both offer high quality lenses at surprisingly low prices. Anyway, Sigma was never really committed to Four Thirds. Sigma only offered some of its existing Third Rate lenses with Four Thirds mount. I think there is a certain level of niche business for Sigma in 4/3 such as the 50-500mm Bigma. They've got quite a few lenses that fall into the niches that Oly and Panasonic don't fill. But, as you say, they don't seem very committed to 4/3. The previous version of the Bigma was available in 4/3 mount yet the new one is not. Based on my personal experiences which you witnessed, Sigma ought to concentrate on quality control of the mounts they currently make. -- Peter Since that episode, I've gotten a Tokina lens that fits tight like that Sigma you tested. A fellow member of the Suffolk group I belong to reported a similar issue with a Nikon lens he had that he returned for a replacement. I've never had that probelm with any Sigma lens but only with one Tokina. There are quality issues with all makes, not that I'm defending Sigma. I can understand and even forgive QC issues. What drove me up the wall was when Tim, the Sigma rep kept trying to BS me by telling me it was supposed to be that way. If one of my employees ever did the equivalent, I would have canned him on the spot. You don't lie to customers. -- Peter That can't be defended. That lens will always be a tight-fit, there's no "break-in" that will occur. To insinuate that it would loosen up was not right. It would have been simple to say that they'd just get another lens off of the shelf for you. I would have undoubtedly returned that one, it was far too tight. |
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Aftermarket lens makers continue to cater solely to Canon and Nikon
"Pete Stavrakoglou" wrote in message
... "Peter" wrote in message ... I can understand and even forgive QC issues. What drove me up the wall was when Tim, the Sigma rep kept trying to BS me by telling me it was supposed to be that way. If one of my employees ever did the equivalent, I would have canned him on the spot. You don't lie to customers. -- Peter That can't be defended. That lens will always be a tight-fit, there's no "break-in" that will occur. To insinuate that it would loosen up was not right. It would have been simple to say that they'd just get another lens off of the shelf for you. I would have undoubtedly returned that one, it was far too tight. It might have eventually loosened up. But, if the fitting on my camera was softer than the metal on the Sigma, I would have had a major problem. After lunch I went to Nikon and they thoroughly checked the fittings. We even tried other Nikon Lenses on other bodies. All was according to specs. Eventually sigma will get the message. But, since they do not have me on board as a consultant, I have no reason to spend to spend any more time on this issue. -- Peter |
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Aftermarket lens makers continue to cater solely to Canon and Nikon
In rec.photo.digital RichA wrote:
On Aug 11, 2:22*pm, "Pete Stavrakoglou" wrote: "RichA" wrote in message ... American companies come to Canada to gain at most an extra 10% on their bottom line. *Apparently, aftermarket lens companies don't see the benefit in doing with with Sony, Olympus, Panasonic or Pentax (well, some support Pentax.). Are you saying that the lenses Sigma manufactures in 4/3, Sony, and Pentax mounts are not available in Canada? No, Sigma unfortunately is the only aftermarket company that actually makes lenses for those brands outside of some exotics like Voigtlander, but they are slowly eliminating them, at least for Olympus. Tamron and Tokina both make better lenses on average than Sigma but only for Canon and Nikon. Tamron has also moved into Sony. -- Chris Malcolm |
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