Should all smokers be taken out and shot?

On Sat, 7 Aug 2010 20:56:34 -0700 (PDT), RichA
wrote:

I picked up a prime lens today, an older used one. I noticed the lens
had a light blue coating, which was odd as this prime's coatings are
usually brown-purple. At home, I gave the lens a swipe with a lens
tissue, and it looked like part of the coating "rubbed off." Turns
out, the lens was covered in a layer of tobacco smoke residue. The
whole lens was coated with it. When I cleaned the entire front
element surface, sure enough, the correct coating colour was revealed.
It took an hour to clean the thing. Luckily, the inside and the back
of the lens were ok, likely because it was inside the camera body.
I'm glad I didn't have to see the camera. But I've seen this before
on optics. How can anyone do this to a camera?

How you ask?

Because it's THEIR camera.

They bought and paid for it and how they use and treat it is their
choice just as how you use and treat your camera is your choice.

Do you have a problem with free choice?

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On Sat, 7 Aug 2010 20:56:34 -0700 (PDT), RichA
wrote:

I picked up a prime lens today, an older used one. I noticed the lens
had a light blue coating, which was odd as this prime's coatings are
usually brown-purple. At home, I gave the lens a swipe with a lens
tissue, and it looked like part of the coating "rubbed off." Turns
out, the lens was covered in a layer of tobacco smoke residue. The
whole lens was coated with it. When I cleaned the entire front
element surface, sure enough, the correct coating colour was revealed.
It took an hour to clean the thing. Luckily, the inside and the back
of the lens were ok, likely because it was inside the camera body.
I'm glad I didn't have to see the camera. But I've seen this before
on optics. How can anyone do this to a camera?

How you ask?

Because it's THEIR camera.

They bought and paid for it and how they use and treat it is their
choice just as how you use and treat your camera is your choice.

Do you have a problem with free choice?

If you sell your house, you are required to clean it when vacating.


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N

On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 22:41:15 +1000, "N" wrote:


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On Sat, 7 Aug 2010 20:56:34 -0700 (PDT), RichA
wrote:

I picked up a prime lens today, an older used one. I noticed the lens
had a light blue coating, which was odd as this prime's coatings are
usually brown-purple. At home, I gave the lens a swipe with a lens
tissue, and it looked like part of the coating "rubbed off." Turns
out, the lens was covered in a layer of tobacco smoke residue. The
whole lens was coated with it. When I cleaned the entire front
element surface, sure enough, the correct coating colour was revealed.
It took an hour to clean the thing. Luckily, the inside and the back
of the lens were ok, likely because it was inside the camera body.
I'm glad I didn't have to see the camera. But I've seen this before
on optics. How can anyone do this to a camera?

How you ask?

Because it's THEIR camera.

They bought and paid for it and how they use and treat it is their
choice just as how you use and treat your camera is your choice.

Do you have a problem with free choice?

If you sell your house, you are required to clean it when vacating.

In what Nazi dictatorship country is that a requirement?

"Outing Trolls is FUN!" wrote in message
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On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 22:41:15 +1000, "N" wrote:


If you sell your house, you are required to clean it when vacating.

In what Nazi dictatorship country is that a requirement?


Have you ever sold a house?

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N

On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 22:44:57 +1000, "N" wrote:


"Outing Trolls is FUN!" wrote in message
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On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 22:41:15 +1000, "N" wrote:


If you sell your house, you are required to clean it when vacating.

In what Nazi dictatorship country is that a requirement?


Have you ever sold a house?

Yes. And I could even burn them to the ground first and sell the charred
remains and land if I want.

Like I asked, "In what Nazi dictatorship country is that a requirement?"

In article , Rich wrote:
On Aug 9, 8:47=A0am, Outing Trolls is FUN! wrote:
On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 22:44:57 +1000, "N" wrote:

"Outing Trolls is FUN!" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 22:41:15 +1000, "N" wrote:

If you sell your house, you are required to clean it when vacating.

In what Nazi dictatorship country is that a requirement?

Have you ever sold a house?

Yes. And I could even burn them to the ground first and sell the charred
remains and land if I want.

Like I asked, "In what Nazi dictatorship country is that a requirement?"

Even if it isn't a requirement to clean it, you are required to inform
the buyer if something is going to intefere with the enjoyment or use
of the property, like the presence of black mold. At least you are in
Canada, I don't know about the U.S.

Most all houses have mold.

greg

On 2010-08-09 08:44:46 -0700, (GregS) said:

In article
,
Rich wrote:
On Aug 9, 8:47=A0am, Outing Trolls is FUN! wrote:
On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 22:44:57 +1000, "N" wrote:

"Outing Trolls is FUN!" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 22:41:15 +1000, "N" wrote:

If you sell your house, you are required to clean it when vacating.

In what Nazi dictatorship country is that a requirement?

Have you ever sold a house?

Yes. And I could even burn them to the ground first and sell the charred
remains and land if I want.

Like I asked, "In what Nazi dictatorship country is that a requirement?"

Even if it isn't a requirement to clean it, you are required to inform
the buyer if something is going to intefere with the enjoyment or use
of the property, like the presence of black mold. At least you are in
Canada, I don't know about the U.S.

Most all houses have mold.

greg

Where do you live?
Mold is the least of my problems in my hot and dry local climate.

Cleaning the house before sale, is not a requirement, but it might be a
good idea in what is a buyers market. Though some foreclosure sales of
trashed homes have to be made with damage disclosures or the selling
bank can have liability issues.

....and disclosure laws apply in California, and I am sure they do in
the other states.

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Regards,

Savageduck

In article 2010080909032243658-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom, Savageduck wrote:
On 2010-08-09 08:44:46 -0700, (GregS) said:

In article
,
Rich wrote:
On Aug 9, 8:47=A0am, Outing Trolls is FUN! wrote:
On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 22:44:57 +1000, "N" wrote:

"Outing Trolls is FUN!" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 22:41:15 +1000, "N" wrote:

If you sell your house, you are required to clean it when vacating.

In what Nazi dictatorship country is that a requirement?

Have you ever sold a house?

Yes. And I could even burn them to the ground first and sell the charred
remains and land if I want.

Like I asked, "In what Nazi dictatorship country is that a requirement?"

Even if it isn't a requirement to clean it, you are required to inform
the buyer if something is going to intefere with the enjoyment or use
of the property, like the presence of black mold. At least you are in
Canada, I don't know about the U.S.

Most all houses have mold.

greg

Where do you live?
Mold is the least of my problems in my hot and dry local climate.

I used to live in Barstow, I'm sure you could find just a little under a sink
or someplace like that. I'm just saying most. The relative humidity was always higher
inside the house. What about those swamp coolers?

Cleaning the house before sale, is not a requirement, but it might be a
good idea in what is a buyers market. Though some foreclosure sales of
trashed homes have to be made with damage disclosures or the selling
bank can have liability issues.

Inspecting a house is a requirment of any sane individual.

....and disclosure laws apply in California, and I am sure they do in
the other states.


No, inspection is not required to sell a house here.
Disclosure yes, whatever is listed on the forms.

greg

In article , (GregS) wrote:
In article 2010080909032243658-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom, Savageduck
wrote:
On 2010-08-09 08:44:46 -0700, (GregS) said:

In article
,
Rich wrote:
On Aug 9, 8:47=A0am, Outing Trolls is FUN! wrote:
On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 22:44:57 +1000, "N" wrote:

"Outing Trolls is FUN!" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 22:41:15 +1000, "N" wrote:

If you sell your house, you are required to clean it when vacating.

In what Nazi dictatorship country is that a requirement?

Have you ever sold a house?

Yes. And I could even burn them to the ground first and sell the charred
remains and land if I want.

Like I asked, "In what Nazi dictatorship country is that a requirement?"

Even if it isn't a requirement to clean it, you are required to inform
the buyer if something is going to intefere with the enjoyment or use
of the property, like the presence of black mold. At least you are in
Canada, I don't know about the U.S.

Most all houses have mold.

greg

Where do you live?
Mold is the least of my problems in my hot and dry local climate.


Are you required to report sand builup ??
Sand is bad for your lungs.

I like the sweet smell of desert sand after a rainfall !!

A normal house inspection will not reveal everything.
I installed new windows last year. The old wooden windows
looked fine. Ripping out the frame revealed 60 years of moisture
seeping through wood to form some mold.
Some of the fiberglas was darkened. You would find this with any old house.

greg

I used to live in Barstow, I'm sure you could find just a little under a sink
or someplace like that. I'm just saying most. The relative humidity was always
higher
inside the house. What about those swamp coolers?

Cleaning the house before sale, is not a requirement, but it might be a
good idea in what is a buyers market. Though some foreclosure sales of
trashed homes have to be made with damage disclosures or the selling
bank can have liability issues.

Inspecting a house is a requirment of any sane individual.

....and disclosure laws apply in California, and I am sure they do in
the other states.


No, inspection is not required to sell a house here.
Disclosure yes, whatever is listed on the forms.

greg

GregS wrote:
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Most all houses have mold.

greg

Did you mean moldING?
Allen