Photo of dying marine: was it right for AP to publish?

Came across this article about AP publishing a photo of a dying US
marine and the controversy surrounding it. There hasn't been much
news here in the UK about it but I expect that it's big news in the
US.

http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/53173,news,photograph-of-dying-marine-joshua-bernard-was-it-right-for-the-associated-press-to-publish

I'm all up for showing how things are and the press have done so on
may occasions, but at the same time the family must be very upset. So
I'm in two minds about this. Storm in a tea cup? Or genuine concern
on showing dead or dying NATO/ISAF soldiers?
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RichA wrote:

Kulvinder Singh Matharu wrote:
Came across this article about AP publishing a photo of a dying US
marine and the controversy surrounding it. There hasn't been much
news here in the UK about it but I expect that it's big news in the
US.



There was no news value in it, the media outlets, threatened by
falling usage and viewers are desperate and will do anything to drum
up an audience.

The picture itself is no news. The scum left-wing media use these
to try to make people feel sick and therefore want to lose a war.
Its standard stuff and long since the whole affair is well known.

What is interesting is that AP would do it in the face of dierct opposition
of the family. It would not be to difficult to
wait for someone whose family does not care.

Doug McDonald

Kulvinder Singh Matharu wrote:
Came across this article about AP publishing a photo of a dying US
marine and the controversy surrounding it. There hasn't been much
news here in the UK about it but I expect that it's big news in the
US.

http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/53173,news,photograph-of-dying-marine-joshua-bernard-was-it-right-for-the-associated-press-to-publish

I'm all up for showing how things are and the press have done so on
may occasions, but at the same time the family must be very upset. So
I'm in two minds about this. Storm in a tea cup? Or genuine concern
on showing dead or dying NATO/ISAF soldiers?


I feel images like this might make just some of the "pro war" people
realize that yes fighting wars does cost lives. Shots of soldiers lined
up in a parade might be more pleasant but isn't reality.

Stephanie

DG wrote:
Kulvinder Singh Matharu wrote:
Came across this article about AP publishing a photo of a dying US
marine and the controversy surrounding it. There hasn't been much
news here in the UK about it but I expect that it's big news in the
US.

http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/53173,news,photograph-of-dying-marine-joshua-bernard-was-it-right-for-the-associated-press-to-publish

I'm all up for showing how things are and the press have done so on
may occasions, but at the same time the family must be very upset. So
I'm in two minds about this. Storm in a tea cup? Or genuine concern
on showing dead or dying NATO/ISAF soldiers?


What's a photographer supposed to do? Quit shooting in a war zone
because someone might die?

If people are upset about the photo then they should blame the
politicians for the war, not the photographer for the image.



NO! They should blame the scum people who print it against
the family's wishes, and the people who
started the war: al Qaeda and the Taliban. There is nothing
wrong with the photographer taking it ... if the family
had agreed, publishing it would have been OK.

Doug McDonald

On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 19:10:52 -0500, Doug McDonald
wrote:

DG wrote:
Kulvinder Singh Matharu wrote:
Came across this article about AP publishing a photo of a dying US
marine and the controversy surrounding it. There hasn't been much
news here in the UK about it but I expect that it's big news in the
US.

http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/53173,news,photograph-of-dying-marine-joshua-bernard-was-it-right-for-the-associated-press-to-publish

I'm all up for showing how things are and the press have done so on
may occasions, but at the same time the family must be very upset. So
I'm in two minds about this. Storm in a tea cup? Or genuine concern
on showing dead or dying NATO/ISAF soldiers?

This is the first I heard about it. During the 60's and 70's is was
perfectly common practice to show all the atrocities of war. But the
right-wing scum are too afraid of showing anyone the truth these days. It's
how they're able to perpetuate their stupidity and insanity, by not making
it clear to the world. They're too insecure and afraid to show their true
face and all they have "accomplished" to the world.



What's a photographer supposed to do? Quit shooting in a war zone
because someone might die?

If people are upset about the photo then they should blame the
politicians for the war, not the photographer for the image.



NO! They should blame the scum people who print it against
the family's wishes, and the people who
started the war: al Qaeda and the Taliban. There is nothing
wrong with the photographer taking it ... if the family
had agreed, publishing it would have been OK.

Doug McDonald

So ... let me get this straight .... It's okay to photograph them killing
someone and publishing it without asking, but not okay to photograph them
being killed and publishing it without asking. Have I got that correct now?

On 9/7/2009 5:25 PM Annika1980 spake thus:

The military is quick to show cool videos of laser-guided missiles
blowing up supply trucks, but they don't like it when the media shows
what happens on the other side. Should we not show any footage of
bombs blowing up in deference to the poor Afghan families who just
lost their sons and brothers? Of course not. It's a war. People
die in wars. If you don't like it then stop the ****ing wars.

Amen.


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wrote:
Kulvinder Singh Matharu wrote:
Came across this article about AP publishing a photo of a dying US
marine and the controversy surrounding it. There hasn't been much
news here in the UK about it but I expect that it's big news in the
US.

http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/53173,news,photograph-of-dying-marine-joshua-bernard-was-it-right-for-the-associated-press-to-publish


I'm all up for showing how things are and the press have done so on
may occasions, but at the same time the family must be very upset. So
I'm in two minds about this. Storm in a tea cup? Or genuine concern
on showing dead or dying NATO/ISAF soldiers?


I feel images like this might make just some of the "pro war" people
realize that yes fighting wars does cost lives. Shots of soldiers lined
up in a parade might be more pleasant but isn't reality.



What about compensating images of al Qaeda's victims .. like the
hrrobly burned ones from 9/11, of the Taliban's victims. Funny,
we almost never see those people! Only the Left uses such images for
their political purposes.

Doug McDonald

Annika1980 wrote:
On Sep 7, 8:10 pm, Doug McDonald wrote:
NO! They should blame the scum people who print it against
the family's wishes, and the people who
started the war: al Qaeda and the Taliban. There is nothing
wrong with the photographer taking it ... if the family
had agreed, publishing it would have been OK.


Since when does a photojournalist or a media outlet need permission to
take or publish pics?
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When COMMON DECENCY suggests so, that's when!

Doug McDonald

....And if the picture was of you -- and the last memory your children
would have of you, would it still be okay to publish it?





In , on
09/07/2009
at 05:25 PM, Annika1980 said:



On Sep 7, 8:10*pm, Doug McDonald wrote:
NO! They should blame the scum people who print it against
the family's wishes, and the people who
started the war: al Qaeda and the Taliban. There is nothing
wrong with the photographer taking it ... if the family
had agreed, publishing it would have been OK.


Since when does a photojournalist or a media outlet need permission to
take or publish pics?
I think it's bad enough that our government censors pretty much all
negative coverage of our wars.
The military is quick to show cool videos of laser-guided missiles
blowing up supply trucks, but they don't like it when the media shows
what happens on the other side. Should we not show any footage of bombs
blowing up in deference to the poor Afghan families who just lost their
sons and brothers? Of course not. It's a war. People die in wars. If
you don't like it then stop the ****ing wars.

On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 01:29:48 GMT, wrote:



...And if the picture was of you -- and the last memory your children
would have of you, would it still be okay to publish it?



Most certainly. I'd love nothing better than to show them and give them
proof of what happens when you unknowingly become nothing but a
corporate-pawn under the guise of "protecting freedom".