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Old August 9th 10, 10:20 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
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"Outing Trolls is FUN!" wrote in message
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On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 22:44:57 +1000, "N" wrote:


"Outing Trolls is FUN!" wrote in message
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On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 22:41:15 +1000, "N" wrote:


If you sell your house, you are required to clean it when vacating.

In what Nazi dictatorship country is that a requirement?


Have you ever sold a house?


Yes. And I could even burn them to the ground first and sell the charred
remains and land if I want.

Like I asked, "In what Nazi dictatorship country is that a requirement?"


Yes, you could sell the remains, but if you sell a house on land but burn it
before settlement, then you will have committed a crime and you will not be
able to deliver on the sale.

In Australia a product sold must be fit for the purpose for which it is
sold. A lens such as the one Rich "picked up", if he paid for it, would
fail the "fit for the purpose" test.

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Old August 9th 10, 10:39 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
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On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 07:20:34 +1000, "N" wrote:


"Outing Trolls is FUN!" wrote in message
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On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 22:44:57 +1000, "N" wrote:


"Outing Trolls is FUN!" wrote in message
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On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 22:41:15 +1000, "N" wrote:


If you sell your house, you are required to clean it when vacating.

In what Nazi dictatorship country is that a requirement?


Have you ever sold a house?


Yes. And I could even burn them to the ground first and sell the charred
remains and land if I want.

Like I asked, "In what Nazi dictatorship country is that a requirement?"


Yes, you could sell the remains, but if you sell a house on land but burn it
before settlement, then you will have committed a crime and you will not be
able to deliver on the sale.


Can't you even read, troll? I said I could burn it to the ground FIRST, and
then sell the charred remains. If someone was so inclined to want to buy
the charred remains that's their choice. BTW: I never buy a home where the
home is the only value. The land has to be worth at least three times the
cost of the home by itself. So even if the house does burn to the ground
the sale is still worth more than the original price of the home. The value
of the land on my most favorite home has now quadrupled in just eight
years. The house could fly away in a tornado and the property would still
be worth more than four times the original selling price. A home must have
acreage, and lots of it. The mailbox at the end of the driveway is over
three football fields away from the front door, and the house is near the
front of the property, just to give you an idea. Enjoying your mommy's
urban basement much?

Try trolling someone else in an attempt to fill that desperate need for
attention that you have.

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Old August 9th 10, 11:48 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
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On 8/9/10 7:17 AM, " wrote:

On Sat, 7 Aug 2010 20:56:34 -0700 (PDT), RichA
wrote:

How can anyone do this to a camera?


How you ask?

Because it's THEIR camera.

They bought and paid for it and how they use and treat it is their
choice just as how you use and treat your camera is your choice.

Do you have a problem with free choice?



No. Do you have a problem with honesty? If the previous owner chooses to
smoke, that is his free choice. But if he sells it, the hidden defect of
the accumulated smoke exposure should be revealed. Otherwise he is
misleading prospective buyers.

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Old August 10th 10, 12:42 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
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On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 18:48:28 -0400, Robert Haar wrote:

On 8/9/10 7:17 AM, " wrote:

On Sat, 7 Aug 2010 20:56:34 -0700 (PDT), RichA
wrote:

How can anyone do this to a camera?


How you ask?

Because it's THEIR camera.

They bought and paid for it and how they use and treat it is their
choice just as how you use and treat your camera is your choice.

Do you have a problem with free choice?



No. Do you have a problem with honesty? If the previous owner chooses to
smoke, that is his free choice. But if he sells it, the hidden defect of
the accumulated smoke exposure should be revealed. Otherwise he is
misleading prospective buyers.


So why are you morons bitching to us instead of the seller? Trolling for
attention?

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Old August 10th 10, 02:40 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
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"N" wrote in message
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On Sat, 7 Aug 2010 20:56:34 -0700 (PDT), RichA
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I picked up a prime lens today, an older used one. I noticed the lens
had a light blue coating, which was odd as this prime's coatings are
usually brown-purple. At home, I gave the lens a swipe with a lens
tissue, and it looked like part of the coating "rubbed off." Turns
out, the lens was covered in a layer of tobacco smoke residue. The
whole lens was coated with it. When I cleaned the entire front
element surface, sure enough, the correct coating colour was revealed.
It took an hour to clean the thing. Luckily, the inside and the back
of the lens were ok, likely because it was inside the camera body.
I'm glad I didn't have to see the camera. But I've seen this before
on optics. How can anyone do this to a camera?


How you ask?

Because it's THEIR camera.

They bought and paid for it and how they use and treat it is their
choice just as how you use and treat your camera is your choice.

Do you have a problem with free choice?


If you sell your house, you are required to clean it when vacating.



You are not, unless your agreement of sale requires it.
If I am wrong tell me what law requires it.

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Old August 10th 10, 02:46 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
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On 2010-08-09 08:44:46 -0700, (GregS) said:

In article
, Rich
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On Aug 9, 8:47=A0am, Outing Trolls is FUN! wrote:
On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 22:44:57 +1000, "N" wrote:

"Outing Trolls is FUN!" wrote in message
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On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 22:41:15 +1000, "N" wrote:

If you sell your house, you are required to clean it when vacating.

In what Nazi dictatorship country is that a requirement?

Have you ever sold a house?

Yes. And I could even burn them to the ground first and sell the
charred
remains and land if I want.

Like I asked, "In what Nazi dictatorship country is that a
requirement?"

Even if it isn't a requirement to clean it, you are required to inform
the buyer if something is going to intefere with the enjoyment or use
of the property, like the presence of black mold. At least you are in
Canada, I don't know about the U.S.


Most all houses have mold.

greg


Where do you live?
Mold is the least of my problems in my hot and dry local climate.

Cleaning the house before sale, is not a requirement, but it might be a
good idea in what is a buyers market. Though some foreclosure sales of
trashed homes have to be made with damage disclosures or the selling bank
can have liability issues.

...and disclosure laws apply in California, and I am sure they do in the
other states.



Disclosure of defect leaving old furniture and garbage in the house.

The typical language in a contract of sale requires the premises to be
delivered: "vacant and broom clean, in it's current state and condition,
reasonable wear and tear excepted."
Absent such a clause the seller can leave old furniture and dust bunnies all
over the house.
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Old August 13th 10, 08:18 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
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wrote in news:9tov565j6j67d7ioc1pg1cm7cu7gmf9pda@
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On Sat, 7 Aug 2010 20:56:34 -0700 (PDT), RichA
wrote:

I picked up a prime lens today, an older used one. I noticed the lens
had a light blue coating, which was odd as this prime's coatings are
usually brown-purple. At home, I gave the lens a swipe with a lens
tissue, and it looked like part of the coating "rubbed off." Turns
out, the lens was covered in a layer of tobacco smoke residue. The
whole lens was coated with it. When I cleaned the entire front
element surface, sure enough, the correct coating colour was revealed.
It took an hour to clean the thing. Luckily, the inside and the back
of the lens were ok, likely because it was inside the camera body.
I'm glad I didn't have to see the camera. But I've seen this before
on optics. How can anyone do this to a camera?


How you ask?

Because it's THEIR camera.

They bought and paid for it and how they use and treat it is their
choice just as how you use and treat your camera is your choice.

Do you have a problem with free choice?


Depends upon their free choice of selling it as fitting the description
of what they are selling. Such descriptions of it's condition as "good"
is not as germane as calling it "good condidtion for its' usage
parameters"
Further inquiry or description of the condition of such a thing shoud
have been of tantamount importance as to the new owner's intent to use it
as a lens rather than a dust collector of nicotine-tobbacco smokers or
doorstop wedger or paperweight holder.

Do you have a computer to build or something?


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