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Olympus 4/3rds advantages fading
"RichA" wrote in message ... Dear Olympus: You can take the silly 140-600mm sticker off your 70-300mm lens. The party is over. Canon now has an 18 megapixel APS sensored camera. There are numerous 15 megapixel APS cameras out there. So, the so-called 4/3rds reach advantage is now erased. Olympus kit lenses are very good, but have you checked out Nikon's most recent 18-55mm? I'd wager it is a match to the 14-42mm and it's much cheaper. Even Sony, who had the worst kit lens on the planet now has a very good one. Olympus pro and top pro lenses may still have an edge when it comes to overall correction compared to some of the competition, but likely no one would seriously compare an E-30 with 7-14mm f4 to a D700 with Nikon's 14-24mm f2.8. What Olympus does still have is a size advantage and it seems that (maybe) people are slowly gravitating towards smaller sized systems because they are easier to put up with. I'm not familiar with the Olympus line -- is the model you speak of any smaller than a Nikon D40 or D60? Because really that's about as small as I care to have a DSLR anyway. Anything that isn't actually pocketable . . . ought to be large enough to hold and operate comfortably, as far as I'm concerned. |
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Neil Harrington wrote:
"RichA" wrote in message ... Dear Olympus: You can take the silly 140-600mm sticker off your 70-300mm lens. The party is over. Canon now has an 18 megapixel APS sensored camera. There are numerous 15 megapixel APS cameras out there. So, the so-called 4/3rds reach advantage is now erased. Olympus kit lenses are very good, but have you checked out Nikon's most recent 18-55mm? I'd wager it is a match to the 14-42mm and it's much cheaper. Even Sony, who had the worst kit lens on the planet now has a very good one. Olympus pro and top pro lenses may still have an edge when it comes to overall correction compared to some of the competition, but likely no one would seriously compare an E-30 with 7-14mm f4 to a D700 with Nikon's 14-24mm f2.8. What Olympus does still have is a size advantage and it seems that (maybe) people are slowly gravitating towards smaller sized systems because they are easier to put up with. I'm not familiar with the Olympus line -- is the model you speak of any smaller than a Nikon D40 or D60? Because really that's about as small as I care to have a DSLR anyway. Anything that isn't actually pocketable . . . ought to be large enough to hold and operate comfortably, as far as I'm concerned. And that depends on the size of your hands doesn't it? I think MOST guys don't think about the fact women has smaller hands and we like a smaller camera. While my E410/pancake doesn't fit in a pocket, it fits into a purse quite easily. Ignoring things like this is discounting 50% of the population. Just because something doesn't fit YOUR needs, doesn't mean it doesn't have any value. But then Neil, this seems to be how your mind operates. Stephanie |
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wrote in message ... Neil Harrington wrote: "RichA" wrote in message ... Dear Olympus: You can take the silly 140-600mm sticker off your 70-300mm lens. The party is over. Canon now has an 18 megapixel APS sensored camera. There are numerous 15 megapixel APS cameras out there. So, the so-called 4/3rds reach advantage is now erased. Olympus kit lenses are very good, but have you checked out Nikon's most recent 18-55mm? I'd wager it is a match to the 14-42mm and it's much cheaper. Even Sony, who had the worst kit lens on the planet now has a very good one. Olympus pro and top pro lenses may still have an edge when it comes to overall correction compared to some of the competition, but likely no one would seriously compare an E-30 with 7-14mm f4 to a D700 with Nikon's 14-24mm f2.8. What Olympus does still have is a size advantage and it seems that (maybe) people are slowly gravitating towards smaller sized systems because they are easier to put up with. I'm not familiar with the Olympus line -- is the model you speak of any smaller than a Nikon D40 or D60? Because really that's about as small as I care to have a DSLR anyway. Anything that isn't actually pocketable . . . ought to be large enough to hold and operate comfortably, as far as I'm concerned. And that depends on the size of your hands doesn't it? That's the size hands my cameras have to go with, yes. I think MOST guys don't think about the fact women has smaller hands and we like a smaller camera. Right. Why would we? While my E410/pancake doesn't fit in a pocket, it fits into a purse quite easily. Ignoring things like this is discounting 50% of the population. The 50% of the population of which I am a part does not carry a purse. How you figure this is "discounting" the other 50% I have no idea. They are none of my business. Just because something doesn't fit YOUR needs, doesn't mean it doesn't have any value. But then Neil, this seems to be how your mind operates. This is a good example of how YOUR mind operates, Stephanie. Take everything personally even if it doesn't concern you in the least, then whine, bitch and complain about it. |
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Neil Harrington wrote:
wrote in message ... Neil Harrington wrote: Anything that isn't actually pocketable . . . ought to be large enough to hold and operate comfortably, as far as I'm concerned. And that depends on the size of your hands doesn't it? That's the size hands my cameras have to go with, yes. I think MOST guys don't think about the fact women has smaller hands and we like a smaller camera. Right. Why would we? Uh, maybe because 50% of the population might find this size works for them? What you have suggested here is there is no reason for this camera to exist since it doesn't fit your hands. Stephanie |
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John McWilliams wrote:
wrote: Neil Harrington wrote: wrote in message ... I think MOST guys don't think about the fact women has smaller hands and we like a smaller camera. Right. Why would we? Uh, maybe because 50% of the population might find this size works for them? What you have suggested here is there is no reason for this camera to exist since it doesn't fit your hands. Hello, Stephanie! Welcome! It's notable to see a [new?] [lady?] in the NG feel so comfortable taking on long time posters in such a confrontational manner. Or have you posted here before under a different name? New yes. Lady yes. I guess after reading Neil personally attacking people in other threads for their opinions being different than his narrow minded view of the world, this comment he made here was no different. Seems quite a few people are guilty of this? Like Allen seems to assume EVERYONE wants to make prints 30X40 or larger! It's my experience that -MOST- people rarely print larger than 4X6 or 5X7. Given the size of my home, I have no interest in printing larger than 11X14. The main reason I use a Dslr is shutter lag and having some control. It seems some people can't accept that MAYBE just because something doesn't fit their needs, this same thing might be perfect for someone else. Whether it's health care or a small camera. Some people have smaller hands (like 50% of the population) so these smaller form factor cameras are much nicer to use. It might not fit in a man pocket, but some of these will fit into a womans purse. To try to argue that some are too small, yet not small enough and shouldn't be considered, is assuming EVERYONE is just like them. The other thing that gets old is people trying to argue about something either you can't see in the final print or you'd (seriously) have to take a loupe to a print to see. Maybe the math and numbers would prove their argument (pixel peeping anyone?), but if you can't SEE this in the results, who cares? Last I checked photography was a visual art form :-) Instead of seeing people discussing various optics or something you CAN see, 90% of the threads are about "My canon has less noise at 1600iso than your nikon" sorta things. That really doesn't help anyone. Stephanie |
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Rich wrote:
On Sep 23, 10:03 am, "Neil Harrington" wrote: "RichA" wrote in message ... Dear Olympus: You can take the silly 140-600mm sticker off your 70-300mm lens. The party is over. Canon now has an 18 megapixel APS sensored camera. There are numerous 15 megapixel APS cameras out there. So, the so-called 4/3rds reach advantage is now erased. Olympus kit lenses are very good, but have you checked out Nikon's most recent 18-55mm? I'd wager it is a match to the 14-42mm and it's much cheaper. Even Sony, who had the worst kit lens on the planet now has a very good one. Olympus pro and top pro lenses may still have an edge when it comes to overall correction compared to some of the competition, but likely no one would seriously compare an E-30 with 7-14mm f4 to a D700 with Nikon's 14-24mm f2.8. What Olympus does still have is a size advantage and it seems that (maybe) people are slowly gravitating towards smaller sized systems because they are easier to put up with. I'm not familiar with the Olympus line -- is the model you speak of any smaller than a Nikon D40 or D60? Because really that's about as small as I care to have a DSLR anyway. No, it's an enthusiast camera (below pro and semi-pro) and it's about the size of a Canon 50D. But, it is smaller/lighter than a D300 or D700. Ah, thanks. "Enthusiast camera" to me seems a good term for something like a D80 or D90, so I assume that's the sort of thing you mean. I certainly agree about the advantages of small size and light weight, especially now that I'm an old geezer. I love my D200 but seldom take it out of the house. |
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