Canon 1D MKIII announced!

On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:51:19 +1100, Lionel
wrote:

On 21 Feb 2007 20:26:54 -0800, "Annika1980"
wrote:

Bad news for Nikon!

Put it back in your pants, Brett.


I don't know why Brett has such an anti-Nikon personality disorder....
was he hit on the head with a big Nikkor when he was a child? :-)

New improved models come out all the time from both companies. This
is Canon's latest gem. It's very impressive for those who need those
features. To think it's something that will kill Nikon is a bit
naive, we haven't yet seen what their next offering will be.

As impressive as the features are, it appears that Canon has backed
down from full frame in their flagship model. Instead, they've added
yet another sensor size to their lineup. What are they up to now,
four?

So Brett, keep on telling us about the orgasms you get taking pictures
of your cats with your 20D, the rest of us will simply enjoy shooting
pictures with whatever gear we choose to use.

Steve








http://tinyurl.com/2htwyn
or
http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelDetailAct&fcategoryid=139&mode lid=14999

Also up on Digital Imagemaker:
http://www.dimagemaker.com/article.php?articleID=893

And DPReview:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0702/07022208canoneos1dmarkiii.asp
Plus the accessories:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0702/07022207eos1dmarkiiiaccs.asp

And Rob Galbraith:
http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/content_page.asp?cid=7-8736-8850

As impressive as the features are, it appears that Canon has backed
down from full frame in their flagship model. Instead, they've added
yet another sensor size to their lineup. What are they up to now,
four?

The 1D hasn't been their flagship since the original 1Ds in November
of 2002, and it still isn't. The 1D has also always had a 1.3x crop
factor, so this isn't a new sensor size, it is the same "third" size
it always has been.

Will

smb writes:
As impressive as the features are, it appears that Canon has backed
down from full frame in their flagship model. Instead, they've added
yet another sensor size to their lineup. What are they up to now,
four?

No, still three. This model uses the same 1.3x sensor as the earlier
versions (EOS-1D and 1D mk II) that it replaces. It would be
surprising if it did otherwise.

"smb" wrote in message
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On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:51:19 +1100, Lionel
wrote:

On 21 Feb 2007 20:26:54 -0800, "Annika1980"
wrote:

Bad news for Nikon!

Put it back in your pants, Brett.


I don't know why Brett has such an anti-Nikon personality disorder....
was he hit on the head with a big Nikkor when he was a child? :-)

New improved models come out all the time from both companies. This
is Canon's latest gem. It's very impressive for those who need those
features. To think it's something that will kill Nikon is a bit
naive, we haven't yet seen what their next offering will be.

As impressive as the features are, it appears that Canon has backed
down from full frame in their flagship model. Instead, they've added
yet another sensor size to their lineup. What are they up to now,
four?


They didn't add a sensor size, the 1D has always been 1.3x, so, no, they are
still at three.

--
Skip Middleton
www.shadowcatcherimagery.com
www.pbase.com/skipm

On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 02:37:32 -0800, wiyum wrote
(in article .com):

As impressive as the features are, it appears that Canon has backed
down from full frame in their flagship model. Instead, they've added
yet another sensor size to their lineup. What are they up to now,
four?

The 1D hasn't been their flagship since the original 1Ds in November
of 2002, and it still isn't. The 1D has also always had a 1.3x crop
factor, so this isn't a new sensor size, it is the same "third" size
it always has been.

Will


However, Canon's web site is calling the 1D III their 'flagship' model.

--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

C J Campbell writes:
As impressive as the features are, it appears that Canon has backed
down from full frame in their flagship model.

No. The old flagship model was the EOS 1D mk II. It was the flagship
because (it looks like) it had the highest fps of all the models, even
though it didn't have the most pixels. The new flagship is the EOS 1D
mk III which has even more fps. The 1DS's had more sensor area and
more pixels but fewer fps so they were never the flagship. The 1DS is
a specialty model (the S stands for "studio").

However, Canon's web site is calling the 1D III their 'flagship' model.

They seem to expect that someday all the high end models will have FF
sensors. Right now though they apparently can't get enough fps from
the FF sensors to put them in the flagship. So for now, FF is
reserved for the non-flagship specialty models. Eventually they will
have an FF camera with 10 fps and that will be the flagship. That is
probably about the limit to the flapping speed of an SLR mirror so I
doubt they will get faster than 10 fps staying with the traditional
instant return design. The live preview in the 1D mk III makes me
wonder if they're heading towards using an electronic shutter to get
the fps even higher, maybe even video speed.

On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 09:24:30 -0800, Paul Rubin wrote
(in article ):

C J Campbell writes:
As impressive as the features are, it appears that Canon has backed
down from full frame in their flagship model.

No. The old flagship model was the EOS 1D mk II.

Just to be clear: I was not the one who said that Canon had backed down. The
quote is snipped from another post.

--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

On Feb 22, 9:24 am, Paul Rubin wrote:
C J Campbell writes:

As impressive as the features are, it appears that Canon has backed
down from full frame in their flagship model.

No. The old flagship model was the EOS 1D mk II. It was the flagship
because (it looks like) it had the highest fps of all the models, even
though it didn't have the most pixels. The new flagship is the EOS 1D
mk III which has even more fps. The 1DS's had more sensor area and
more pixels but fewer fps so they were never the flagship. The 1DS is
a specialty model (the S stands for "studio").

However, Canon's web site is calling the 1D III their 'flagship' model.

They seem to expect that someday all the high end models will have FF
sensors. Right now though they apparently can't get enough fps from
the FF sensors to put them in the flagship. So for now, FF is
reserved for the non-flagship specialty models.

Full frame sensors or not has nothing to do with processing speed. It
could have been a 10MP FF ( LARGE pixels ). Mirror size may slow
things down a little. I don't know if FF shutter cocking is a speed
limiter.

On 22 Feb 2007 09:24:30 -0800, Paul Rubin
wrote:

The live preview in the 1D mk III makes me
wonder if they're heading towards using an electronic shutter to get
the fps even higher, maybe even video speed.

Speaking of video speed, did you see the news item about Sony's
new high speed sensor? The press release starts out by saying:

Sony has announced the IMX017CQE high speed 1/1.8" type
CMOS sensor with a resolution of six megapixels (2921 x 2184)
and the ability to output this resolution at 60 frames per second
(a data rate of around 384 megapixels per second). This sensor is
important news both for its seamless transition between video
capture and still capture and for the fact that it's a CMOS sensor
of the 1/1.8" type, a rare thing indeed. In addition to its impressive
full resolution 60 frames per second this sensor can also deliver
300 frames per second at lower resolutions. Because of its design
this sensor can be used to capture full resolution stills during video
capture without any dropped frames.

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0702/07...hspeedcmos.asp

No. The old flagship model was the EOS 1D mk II. It was the flagship
because (it looks like) it had the highest fps of all the models, even
though it didn't have the most pixels. The new flagship is the EOS 1D
mk III which has even more fps. The 1DS's had more sensor area and
more pixels but fewer fps so they were never the flagship. The 1DS is
a specialty model (the S stands for "studio").

I stand duly corrected. My point was that there hasn't been any change
in approach on Canon's part.

Will