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Daily Telegraph Photo Competition
The Sunday/Daily Telegraph are running their annual photo competition. Has
anybody entered this? One thing that puzzled me about the rules is that they say that both film and digital pictures will be accepted. However, they say that in the event of a digital picture being accepted, "the original image will be required". What can that mean. Surely they don't mean that the original digital card has to be preserved? Surely it's normal practice for the images to be either printed or transferred to hard disc and the card re-formatted. What is the original image in this context?. |
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Daily Telegraph Photo Competition
"Mike O'sullivan" wrote in
: The Sunday/Daily Telegraph are running their annual photo competition. Has anybody entered this? One thing that puzzled me about the rules is that they say that both film and digital pictures will be accepted. However, they say that in the event of a digital picture being accepted, "the original image will be required". What can that mean. Surely they don't mean that the original digital card has to be preserved? Surely it's normal practice for the images to be either printed or transferred to hard disc and the card re-formatted. What is the original image in this context?. It probably means that they want a copy of the original file as it came from the camera, without any modifications done with computer software. I don't know how they would enforce it, though. -- Steve Gray |
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Daily Telegraph Photo Competition
"the original image
will be required". What can that mean. Surely they don't mean that the original digital card has to be preserved? Surely it's normal practice for the images to be either printed or transferred to hard disc and the card re-formatted. What is the original image in this context?. When I've entered newspaper contests (and won) I've sent them a CD with the original JPEG file as well as the modified file I used for printing. This gives them a chance to mess with the image to match their printing processes. My image was used as part of their yearly calendar (I'm Mr. August! :). The results were OK for newsprint, but nothing I wanted to hand out to friends or relatives. Earle Rich Mont Vernon, NH |
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Daily Telegraph Photo Competition
Right. Thanks that's a good plan. The DT rules say that "no computer
manipulation is allowed". I don't know whether "manipulation" includes exposure adjustments for example. Cheers Mike "ERich10983" wrote in message ... "the original image will be required". What can that mean. Surely they don't mean that the original digital card has to be preserved? Surely it's normal practice for the images to be either printed or transferred to hard disc and the card re-formatted. What is the original image in this context?. When I've entered newspaper contests (and won) I've sent them a CD with the original JPEG file as well as the modified file I used for printing. This gives them a chance to mess with the image to match their printing processes. My image was used as part of their yearly calendar (I'm Mr. August! :). The results were OK for newsprint, but nothing I wanted to hand out to friends or relatives. Earle Rich Mont Vernon, NH |
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Daily Telegraph Photo Competition
"Mike O'sullivan" wrote in message
... Right. Thanks that's a good plan. The DT rules say that "no computer manipulation is allowed". I don't know whether "manipulation" includes exposure adjustments for example. Cheers Mike To me, that would rule out a camera that only outputs RAW files, for example, as you are making adjusts, manipulation of the exposure, contrast and colour balance, when you convert the RAW files into e.g. JPEG image format. I presume they don't want computer manufactured images - removing that blot on the landscape for example - but "manipulation" is a very generic term. Good luck! David |
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Daily Telegraph Photo Competition
David J Taylor wrote:
"Mike O'sullivan" wrote in message ... Right. Thanks that's a good plan. The DT rules say that "no computer manipulation is allowed". I don't know whether "manipulation" includes exposure adjustments for example. Cheers Mike To me, that would rule out a camera that only outputs RAW files, for example, as you are making adjusts, manipulation of the exposure, contrast and colour balance, when you convert the RAW files into e.g. JPEG image format. I presume they don't want computer manufactured images - removing that blot on the landscape for example - but "manipulation" is a very generic term. Maybe an accurate rule would be that you are not allowed to do any pixel-specific editing. ie you are allowed to process, but you must do the same to every pixel in the image. This would allow tweaking of contrast, exposure etc but rule-out touching up specific areas of the image. |
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Daily Telegraph Photo Competition
"Mike O'sullivan"
The DT rules say that "no computer manipulation is allowed". I don't know whether "manipulation" includes exposure adjustments for example. From: "David J Taylor" To me, that would rule out a camera that only outputs RAW files I think it's EXACTLY the opposite, the only file acceptable as proof is the RAW file since you can't edit that. At least that's the rule with the BBC Wildlife Photographer of the Year competition and other high end competitions. for example, as you are making adjusts, manipulation of the exposure, contrast and colour balance, when you convert the RAW files into e.g. JPEG image format. Presumably adjusting white balance and exposure during RAW conversion is allowed, but "manipulation" to them means no cloning (in or out) or cropping or radical color changes. Some competitions ask for a jpeg to view and then compare it to the RAW to see what you did to get there. Bill |
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Daily Telegraph Photo Competition
"Bill Hilton" wrote in message
... [] From: "David J Taylor" To me, that would rule out a camera that only outputs RAW files I think it's EXACTLY the opposite, the only file acceptable as proof is the RAW file since you can't edit that. At least that's the rule with the BBC Wildlife Photographer of the Year competition and other high end competitions. [] Bill Whilst I can see what you mean, as you cannot view a RAW file without "manipulating" the raw values into RGB, I can argue the other case! G I guess "the judge's decision is final" will be in the rules somewhere.... Cheers, David |
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Daily Telegraph Photo Competition
Bill Hilton wrote:
I think it's EXACTLY the opposite, the only file acceptable as proof is the RAW file since you can't edit that. At least that's the rule with the BBC Wildlife Photographer of the Year competition and other high end competitions. Hmmm... what if somebody wrote a little software which generates a RAW image out of a JPEG image ? Should be feasible. -- Alfred Molon ------------------------------ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Olympus_405080/ Olympus 5050 resource - http://www.molon.de/5050.html Olympus 5060 resource - http://www.molon.de/5060.html Olympus 8080 resource - http://www.molon.de/8080.html |
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Daily Telegraph Photo Competition
If what you say is true Bill, Only the most expensive DSLRs can compete with
film. 10D Canon's and D70 Nikons all suffer from the same problems. Film on the other hand, captures colour and detail missed 90% of the time with digital. The whole digital thing is about manipulation. Kakadu is photographer's Nirvana Northern Territory, Australia ---------------------------------------- "Bill Hilton" wrote in message ... "Mike O'sullivan" The DT rules say that "no computer manipulation is allowed". I don't know whether "manipulation" includes exposure adjustments for example. From: "David J Taylor" To me, that would rule out a camera that only outputs RAW files I think it's EXACTLY the opposite, the only file acceptable as proof is the RAW file since you can't edit that. At least that's the rule with the BBC Wildlife Photographer of the Year competition and other high end competitions. for example, as you are making adjusts, manipulation of the exposure, contrast and colour balance, when you convert the RAW files into e.g. JPEG image format. Presumably adjusting white balance and exposure during RAW conversion is allowed, but "manipulation" to them means no cloning (in or out) or cropping or radical color changes. Some competitions ask for a jpeg to view and then compare it to the RAW to see what you did to get there. Bill |
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