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Bret Douglas' SOCK PUPPETS at it again.
MarkČ wrote:
Draco wrote: On Jul 1, 6:46 am, "MarkČ" mjmorgan(lowest even number wrote: ryadia wrote: "MarkČ" mjmorgan(lowest even number wrote in message ... ryadia wrote: Why are you on about me? I haven't posted to you or about you for some time. -- Images (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by MarkČ at: www.pbase.com/markuson History is about to be made: I'm SORRY MARK. I can understand you may have presumed my use of Moron and your name 'Morgan' are just too similar to be a coincidence but this time... They are. I know your intelligence is well above the Moron grade of the wannabe presently calling himself Mark.Thomas.7 who I refer to as Mark the Moron because of his Moron like stupidity and childish behaviour. Were I to instigate an attack on you Mark Morgan, It would be a lot more precise than a oblique reference of Jealousy. I know you simply don't have the character to be jealous of me, just ****ed off that I can read you the way your wife should be able to and probably can't. First you apologize...and then you insult my wife? What is it about you that prompts you to do that? Despite what you may think of me, I have never instigated attacks unless the person I am targeting, has started attacking me first. Tell that to my wife...whom you just insulted for no reason whatsoever. She doesn't even know your name, Doug. I will recognize your ability and congratulate you the effort to simply ignore me... Until of course you thought I was firing a barb at you in which case you have every right to retaliate. But I didn't retaliate, Doug. I haven't attacked you--even now--as you insult my wife. Think about that. Now were you to actually be HERE in the room with me, I suspect you honestly wouldn't say such things. But if you did...in my presence...the outcome would be quite justfiably different...as would be your visual perspective as you looked up at me from your new vantage point of the floor...lying there watching the blood from YOUR nose dripping from MY knuckles as I stand above you... ...But don't take offense. -That's just the gentleman in me, Doug. It is that same gentleman that would let you off with a mere nose-bleed...along with a fair warning that you refrain from doing it again. Really, Doug. Re-read your post, and consider whether any of your comments toward me were warranted. If you're honest with yourself, you'll see how much of an aggressor you remain, and how out of balance you tend to get in these exchanges--even in the post containing a rare apology (which I appreciated until you got nasty only a few lines later). Mark Wow! THAT is impressive. Man I'm almost quivering in my bed! Let me give you a tip Mark. It comes from a person who spent the early part of their adult life street fighting for a living, traveling around the country with a boxing promoter. 38 fights and only 2 losses.I won 25 by knockout. NEVER, EVER start a fight with a stranger. Your opinion of yourself is as over inflated as your expectations of winning a violent clash you initiate are. But then you always are full of fight with a keyboard, aren't you? Is it bleeding yet? Send me your phone number Mark. I'll be in Miami around March or April next year. If you really believe you have my measure, I'll send you the air fare and you can find out first hand if you are the man you'd like everyone to think you are... Of course you and me, we know the truth, don't we? Every single coward I've ever come across is big on rhetoric and shallow on ability. So you got my offer mate. You can consider Mark the Moron's assessment of me (Fat old *******) or maybe my Mate Graham's picture Bret used thinking it was me. I should be a pushover for an ape like you. Send me the number tonight mate, I sail in the morning. If you miss me, send it to the form mailer on my web site. You know where it is, you've used it before. Julian will make sure I get it. He's in charge while I'm away. See if you can get a life too, mate. Very clearly the fantasy land you live in is not giving you much of one now. One more thing... -since you brought up the concept of "getting a life..." -Here's a suggestion for you, Doug. Throw your energy into something positive. Here's a start to give you some ideas:http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2007/impact/ As for me...in a week, I'll be on my way to Ukraine, where I'll work with 12-15 year old orphans from the inner city of Kiev. I'll be working with them as they learn English, and also taking them camping as a large group for 10 days...followed by a week back in the city for more help. Most of them have never had fathers, so this is an opportunity to offer them a male role model that doesn't insult mothers and wives. After my work in Kiev, I'll travel to Mozambique via South Africa, where I'll work to repair the damage done to a local college in Maputo when a former Soviet ammo dump exploded, sending ordinance all over the city. Many were killed or left homeless. I'm doing this all at my own expense, and will receive only thank-yous for my time and money spent. I'd suggest that the next time you want to throw out one of your "get a life" lines...that you first take some time to examine your own...and ask yourself what you might do to improve the life of someone else. I think if you'd focus some energy on that, you'd find that your obsession with vendettas and endless threats here serve only to seal your apparent fate as a broken man without much to contribute other than more demonstrations of your refusal to offer a positive existence. And now...back to my attempts to learn a bit of Russian...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Mark, I to would pay good, green to watch you put D-mac/Julian/Ryada in his place. Along with all the sock puppets as well. He has over stepped the line several times on comenting about other folk he has not a clue as to whom they are. There has been times when I thought others were being wrong about him. Not any longer. It seems that he has a Jeckle/Hyde personality. One moment he seems sane and the next it is the attack of the wackos. I have high regard for folks like you Mark. Who go and spend their extra time helping others with no thought of monetary rewards. It pleases me to hear about your up coming trip and I hope you will take a camera with you. I'm sure a lot of folks here will want to follow your time there and see the images from the trip. Have a great and safe trip. We will be watching for your "reports".hehe Draco Thanks for the nice post, Draco. It helps. I am a strong believer in the concept that "all" is NOT necessarily fair in love and war. At some point, everyone needs to take a breath and shift gears. I hope Doug will be able to do that. I've needed to many times, and I'm sure I'll need to again. As for my faith, etc....I frankly don't feel the need to carry on about that...but if you ever read the history in the Bible, you'll be struck with the fact that God makes a strange habit of using very flawed people to work his way in the world. That's good, because I'm a flawed person too. -But I'm working on that. I'll never be perfect--as evidenced by my getting carried away at times with people like Doug. I've tried to keep an even keel, but sometimes that's pretty tough to do. Bret can get pretty tough/crude, etc., but he's honest and straight forward, and I give him credit for that. I can deal with raw honesty far better than I can deal with a smooth sheister...or an overtly foul person. The cool thing about the God of the Bible is that he seems to take a similar stance. He doesn't like false stuff, and will accept the most lost, corrupted folk, so long as they'll face up to their own crap honestly, and with a desire to change, along with actions to back up that desire. The times I lose patience are when I sense that someone is absolutely opposed to change, or improving things. This is when I dig in my heels. When it comes to abuse, I have pretty thick skin and can let insults roll off...but when someone starts testing the "skin" of innocent bystanders, I feel no compulsion to "turn the other cheek" on THEIR behalf. -Quite the opposite. Anyway, thanks... Bret too. I didn't expect such a response from you, Bret, and I appreciate it. Helen's kindness is a given. She's one of those "innocent bystanders" in my view. Anyway...Thanks, Draco. BTW--I'm perfectly aware that to some...the mention of "God" etc. just means I'm a kook...a sucker...etc. I get that. The fact is...I'm just as skeptical as the next guy, and struggle with beliefs, etc. too. I don't go to Africa and Ukraine out of some sort of obligation or "mission from God" like Jake and Elwood Blues... It's just that I believe it's worth doing. I'm sure many non-Christian types do these things also, and that's good. As many here know--I'm no saint, and I'm no perfect example of ANYTHING. The biggest problem with religion is that it is entirely peopled by humans--and the fact is...religious folk are just as flawed and prone to screwing up as anyone else. The main difference has more to do with motivation and an additional basis for choices made, etc. -- Images (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by MarkČ at: www.pbase.com/markuson |
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MarkČ wrote:
BTW--I'm perfectly aware that to some...the mention of "God" etc. just means I'm a kook...a sucker...etc. Nah, we already knew about that..... s. Seriously, Mark, most of us see you're one of the White Hats, so I wish you a great trip, a complete and quick fix of your new camera, and, uh, Godspeed! -- john mcwilliams I know that you believe you understood what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant. |
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John McWilliams wrote:
MarkČ wrote: BTW--I'm perfectly aware that to some...the mention of "God" etc. just means I'm a kook...a sucker...etc. Nah, we already knew about that..... s. Seriously, Mark, most of us see you're one of the White Hats, so I wish you a great trip, a complete and quick fix of your new camera, and, uh, Godspeed! When I have an hour or so...I'll be typing up a report of what went down at Canon yesterday. VERY interesting indeed! Until then...I have to run... And...uh...thanks(?) John. -- Images (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by MarkČ at: www.pbase.com/markuson |
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On Jul 1, 6:46 am, "MarkČ" mjmorgan(lowest even number
wrote: After my work in Kiev, I'll travel to Mozambique via South Africa, where I'll work to repair the damage done to a local college in Maputo when a former Soviet ammo dump exploded, sending ordinance all over the city. Many were killed or left homeless. I'm doing this all at my own expense, and will receive only thank-yous for my time and money spent. That sounds like too dangerous a place for the 1D3. Send it to me and I'll keep it safe while you're gone. |
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Annika1980 wrote:
On Jul 1, 6:46 am, "MarkČ" mjmorgan(lowest even number wrote: After my work in Kiev, I'll travel to Mozambique via South Africa, where I'll work to repair the damage done to a local college in Maputo when a former Soviet ammo dump exploded, sending ordinance all over the city. Many were killed or left homeless. I'm doing this all at my own expense, and will receive only thank-yous for my time and money spent. That sounds like too dangerous a place for the 1D3. Send it to me and I'll keep it safe while you're gone. In all honesty...it most likely isn't safe at all. I'm probably foolish for traveling alone to certain places with all of this gear. -- Images (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by MarkČ at: www.pbase.com/markuson |
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On Jul 3, 6:38 am, Draco wrote:
On Jul 1, 6:46 am, "MarkČ" mjmorgan(lowest even number wrote: ryadia wrote: "MarkČ" mjmorgan(lowest even number wrote in message ... ryadia wrote: Why are you on about me? I haven't posted to you or about you for some time. -- Images (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by MarkČ at: www.pbase.com/markuson History is about to be made: I'm SORRY MARK. I can understand you may have presumed my use of Moron and your name 'Morgan' are just too similar to be a coincidence but this time... They are. I know your intelligence is well above the Moron grade of the wannabe presently calling himself Mark.Thomas.7 who I refer to as Mark the Moron because of his Moron like stupidity and childish behaviour. Were I to instigate an attack on you Mark Morgan, It would be a lot more precise than a oblique reference of Jealousy. I know you simply don't have the character to be jealous of me, just ****ed off that I can read you the way your wife should be able to and probably can't. First you apologize...and then you insult my wife? What is it about you that prompts you to do that? Despite what you may think of me, I have never instigated attacks unless the person I am targeting, has started attacking me first. Tell that to my wife...whom you just insulted for no reason whatsoever. She doesn't even know your name, Doug. I will recognize your ability and congratulate you the effort to simply ignore me... Until of course you thought I was firing a barb at you in which case you have every right to retaliate. But I didn't retaliate, Doug. I haven't attacked you--even now--as you insult my wife. Think about that. Now were you to actually be HERE in the room with me, I suspect you honestly wouldn't say such things. But if you did...in my presence...the outcome would be quite justfiably different...as would be your visual perspective as you looked up at me from your new vantage point of the floor...lying there watching the blood from YOUR nose dripping from MY knuckles as I stand above you... ...But don't take offense. -That's just the gentleman in me, Doug. It is that same gentleman that would let you off with a mere nose-bleed...along with a fair warning that you refrain from doing it again. Really, Doug. Re-read your post, and consider whether any of your comments toward me were warranted. If you're honest with yourself, you'll see how much of an aggressor you remain, and how out of balance you tend to get in these exchanges--even in the post containing a rare apology (which I appreciated until you got nasty only a few lines later). Mark Wow! THAT is impressive. Man I'm almost quivering in my bed! Let me give you a tip Mark. It comes from a person who spent the early part of their adult life street fighting for a living, traveling around the country with a boxing promoter. 38 fights and only 2 losses.I won 25 by knockout. NEVER, EVER start a fight with a stranger. Your opinion of yourself is as over inflated as your expectations of winning a violent clash you initiate are. But then you always are full of fight with a keyboard, aren't you? Is it bleeding yet? Send me your phone number Mark. I'll be in Miami around March or April next year. If you really believe you have my measure, I'll send you the air fare and you can find out first hand if you are the man you'd like everyone to think you are... Of course you and me, we know the truth, don't we? Every single coward I've ever come across is big on rhetoric and shallow on ability. So you got my offer mate. You can consider Mark the Moron's assessment of me (Fat old *******) or maybe my Mate Graham's picture Bret used thinking it was me. I should be a pushover for an ape like you. Send me the number tonight mate, I sail in the morning. If you miss me, send it to the form mailer on my web site. You know where it is, you've used it before. Julian will make sure I get it. He's in charge while I'm away. See if you can get a life too, mate. Very clearly the fantasy land you live in is not giving you much of one now. One more thing... -since you brought up the concept of "getting a life...." -Here's a suggestion for you, Doug. Throw your energy into something positive. Here's a start to give you some ideas:http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2007/impact/ As for me...in a week, I'll be on my way to Ukraine, where I'll work with 12-15 year old orphans from the inner city of Kiev. I'll be working with them as they learn English, and also taking them camping as a large group for 10 days...followed by a week back in the city for more help. Most of them have never had fathers, so this is an opportunity to offer them a male role model that doesn't insult mothers and wives. After my work in Kiev, I'll travel to Mozambique via South Africa, where I'll work to repair the damage done to a local college in Maputo when a former Soviet ammo dump exploded, sending ordinance all over the city. Many were killed or left homeless. I'm doing this all at my own expense, and will receive only thank-yous for my time and money spent. I'd suggest that the next time you want to throw out one of your "get a life" lines...that you first take some time to examine your own...and ask yourself what you might do to improve the life of someone else. I think if you'd focus some energy on that, you'd find that your obsession with vendettas and endless threats here serve only to seal your apparent fate as a broken man without much to contribute other than more demonstrations of your refusal to offer a positive existence. And now...back to my attempts to learn a bit of Russian...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Mark, I to would pay good, green to watch you put D-mac/Julian/Ryada in his place. Along with all the sock puppets as well. He has over stepped the line several times on comenting about other folk he has not a clue as to whom they are. There has been times when I thought others were being wrong about him. Not any longer. It seems that he has a Jeckle/Hyde personality. One moment he seems sane and the next it is the attack of the wackos. I have high regard for folks like you Mark. Who go and spend their extra time helping others with no thought of monetary rewards. It pleases me to hear about your up coming trip and I hope you will take a camera with you. I'm sure a lot of folks here will want to follow your time there and see the images from the trip. Have a great and safe trip. We will be watching for your "reports".hehe Draco Getting even isn't good enough. Doing better does. For a while you came across as a person of principles. Someone who believes in fairness and knows right from wrong. It seems from this reply your real persona has just surfaced. Waiting for someone to depart before attacking them is the trait of a coward. Why is it Draco, you now support the notion that Doug has no right to fight back after a pair of idiots engaged in theft, fraud, defamation, lies and slander against him? Whether you like Doug or not, you seriously can't expect to have any credibility as a respectable person if you say Doug has no right to take whatever affirmative action available to him after they committed fraud by using his name to set up a string of sites using his client's images and then went about attempting to discredit him and his (successful) businesses. I think you ought to take a deep breath an look at your attitudes here before you too get embroiled in the fiasco and start thinking criminal activity just part of the game. JA |
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Knock it off.
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On Jul 4, 8:47 pm, Julian wrote:
Why is it Draco, you now support the notion that Doug has no right to fight back after a pair of idiots engaged in theft, fraud, defamation, lies and slander against him? Well Julian .... oops, I meant D-Mac (for a minute there I forgot you were crazy), maybe it's because you continue to do the same things you keep railing on me for doing. Allegedly. |
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On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 17:47:31 -0700, Julian
wrote: D Mac and X man are the same both come up with stupid statements on photography |
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On Jul 4, 8:47 pm, Julian wrote:
On Jul 3, 6:38 am, Draco wrote: On Jul 1, 6:46 am, "MarkČ" mjmorgan(lowest even number wrote: ryadia wrote: "MarkČ" mjmorgan(lowest even number wrote in message ... ryadia wrote: Why are you on about me? I haven't posted to you or about you for some time. -- Images (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by MarkČ at: www.pbase.com/markuson History is about to be made: I'm SORRY MARK. I can understand you may have presumed my use of Moron and your name 'Morgan' are just too similar to be a coincidence but this time... They are. I know your intelligence is well above the Moron grade of the wannabe presently calling himself Mark.Thomas.7 who I refer to as Mark the Moron because of his Moron like stupidity and childish behaviour. Were I to instigate an attack on you Mark Morgan, It would be a lot more precise than a oblique reference of Jealousy. I know you simply don't have the character to be jealous of me, just ****ed off that I can read you the way your wife should be able to and probably can't. First you apologize...and then you insult my wife? What is it about you that prompts you to do that? Despite what you may think of me, I have never instigated attacks unless the person I am targeting, has started attacking me first. Tell that to my wife...whom you just insulted for no reason whatsoever. She doesn't even know your name, Doug. I will recognize your ability and congratulate you the effort to simply ignore me... Until of course you thought I was firing a barb at you in which case you have every right to retaliate. But I didn't retaliate, Doug. I haven't attacked you--even now--as you insult my wife. Think about that. Now were you to actually be HERE in the room with me, I suspect you honestly wouldn't say such things. But if you did...in my presence...the outcome would be quite justfiably different...as would be your visual perspective as you looked up at me from your new vantage point of the floor...lying there watching the blood from YOUR nose dripping from MY knuckles as I stand above you... ...But don't take offense. -That's just the gentleman in me, Doug.. It is that same gentleman that would let you off with a mere nose-bleed...along with a fair warning that you refrain from doing it again. Really, Doug. Re-read your post, and consider whether any of your comments toward me were warranted. If you're honest with yourself, you'll see how much of an aggressor you remain, and how out of balance you tend to get in these exchanges--even in the post containing a rare apology (which I appreciated until you got nasty only a few lines later). Mark Wow! THAT is impressive. Man I'm almost quivering in my bed! Let me give you a tip Mark. It comes from a person who spent the early part of their adult life street fighting for a living, traveling around the country with a boxing promoter. 38 fights and only 2 losses.I won 25 by knockout. NEVER, EVER start a fight with a stranger. Your opinion of yourself is as over inflated as your expectations of winning a violent clash you initiate are. But then you always are full of fight with a keyboard, aren't you? Is it bleeding yet? Send me your phone number Mark. I'll be in Miami around March or April next year. If you really believe you have my measure, I'll send you the air fare and you can find out first hand if you are the man you'd like everyone to think you are... Of course you and me, we know the truth, don't we? Every single coward I've ever come across is big on rhetoric and shallow on ability. So you got my offer mate. You can consider Mark the Moron's assessment of me (Fat old *******) or maybe my Mate Graham's picture Bret used thinking it was me. I should be a pushover for an ape like you. Send me the number tonight mate, I sail in the morning. If you miss me, send it to the form mailer on my web site. You know where it is, you've used it before. Julian will make sure I get it. He's in charge while I'm away. See if you can get a life too, mate. Very clearly the fantasy land you live in is not giving you much of one now. One more thing... -since you brought up the concept of "getting a life..." -Here's a suggestion for you, Doug. Throw your energy into something positive. Here's a start to give you some ideas:http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2007/impact/ As for me...in a week, I'll be on my way to Ukraine, where I'll work with 12-15 year old orphans from the inner city of Kiev. I'll be working with them as they learn English, and also taking them camping as a large group for 10 days...followed by a week back in the city for more help. Most of them have never had fathers, so this is an opportunity to offer them a male role model that doesn't insult mothers and wives. After my work in Kiev, I'll travel to Mozambique via South Africa, where I'll work to repair the damage done to a local college in Maputo when a former Soviet ammo dump exploded, sending ordinance all over the city.. Many were killed or left homeless. I'm doing this all at my own expense, and will receive only thank-yous for my time and money spent. I'd suggest that the next time you want to throw out one of your "get a life" lines...that you first take some time to examine your own...and ask yourself what you might do to improve the life of someone else. I think if you'd focus some energy on that, you'd find that your obsession with vendettas and endless threats here serve only to seal your apparent fate as a broken man without much to contribute other than more demonstrations of your refusal to offer a positive existence. And now...back to my attempts to learn a bit of Russian...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Mark, I to would pay good, green to watch you put D-mac/Julian/Ryada in his place. Along with all the sock puppets as well. He has over stepped the line several times on comenting about other folk he has not a clue as to whom they are. There has been times when I thought others were being wrong about him. Not any longer. It seems that he has a Jeckle/Hyde personality. One moment he seems sane and the next it is the attack of the wackos. I have high regard for folks like you Mark. Who go and spend their extra time helping others with no thought of monetary rewards. It pleases me to hear about your up coming trip and I hope you will take a camera with you. I'm sure a lot of folks here will want to follow your time there and see the images from the trip. Have a great and safe trip. We will be watching for your "reports".hehe Draco Getting even isn't good enough. Doing better does. For a while you came across as a person of principles. Someone who believes in fairness and knows right from wrong. It seems from this reply your real persona has just surfaced. Waiting for someone to depart before attacking them is the trait of a coward. Why is it Draco, you now support the notion that Doug has no right to fight back after a pair of idiots engaged in theft, fraud, defamation, lies and slander against him? Whether you like Doug or not, you seriously can't expect to have any credibility as a respectable person if you say Doug has no right to take whatever affirmative action available to him after they committed fraud by using his name to set up a string of sites using his client's images and then went about attempting to discredit him and his (successful) businesses. I think you ought to take a deep breath an look at your attitudes here before you too get embroiled in the fiasco and start thinking criminal activity just part of the game. JA- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - JA, Is that short for a term associated with a mule? Sir, I suggest that you look at all the posts and wonder if I have ever said that "... Doug has no right..." to do anything. He can do what ever he wants. Just do it. He has posted several times very positive threads and has shown this NG some nice images. But there are times, like this last one, when he appears to have split personalities. One calm and inviting and the other a belligerent, spoilled brat. With whom no one wants to deal with, including myself. So before you suggest that I take a breath and look at My attitudes, Sir. I would rather look at all sides and then determine which one has the better case. You are correct in at least one thing. This is a fiasco and not worth even getting involved with any further. John McWilliams, Sir, we have tried to get the parties to "knock it off". But, as with any body who feels they are in the right...well, until one dies or moves away or they kiss and make up, it will go on for some more time. What can one do?? Enjoy life and not let the naysayers,cantbes, nowayers get you down. Draco Getting even isn't good enough. Doing better does. |
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