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Old January 24th 05, 12:01 AM
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What is the best way for me to start?
What is the cheapest option?
Is Linhof or Fuji 617 unavoidable or is there a cheaper solution?
Maybe Russian/Chinese?


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Old January 24th 05, 12:17 AM
Ralf R. Radermacher
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..::SuperBLUE::. wrote:

What is the best way for me to start?
What is the cheapest option?
Is Linhof or Fuji 617 unavoidable or is there a cheaper solution?
Maybe Russian/Chinese?


Any old 13 x 18 and a pair of scissors would be a lot cheaper and offer
more possibilities.

Ralf

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Old January 24th 05, 01:06 AM
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Any old 13 x 18 and a pair of scissors would be a lot cheaper and offer
more possibilities.


I am new to photography, so I would like to ask some dumb questions:

1. Color films for large format and where are they developed?
2. Would large format confine me to black & white manualy developed photos?
3. Is it better to buy large format camera or 6x17 considering the available
lenses (I like the telephoto)?


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Old January 24th 05, 01:27 AM
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..::SuperBLUE::. wrote:

Any old 13 x 18 and a pair of scissors would be a lot cheaper and offer
more possibilities.


I am new to photography, so I would like to ask some dumb questions:

1. Color films for large format and where are they developed?


Get yourself a second-hand Jobo processor and do the processing
yourself.

Or, as others have suggested here, fit a rollfilm back.

2. Would large format confine me to black & white manualy developed photos?


Definitely not.

3. Is it better to buy large format camera or 6x17 considering the available
lenses (I like the telephoto)?


With a 6 x 17 camera, you're limited to the selection of lenses they
sell for it. With a large-format camera, you have an immense choice of
lenses you can use.

Ralf


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Old January 24th 05, 02:04 AM
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On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 02:06:35 +0100, ".::SuperBLUE::."
wrote:

Any old 13 x 18 and a pair of scissors would be a lot cheaper and offer
more possibilities.


I am new to photography, so I would like to ask some dumb questions:

1. Color films for large format and where are they developed?
2. Would large format confine me to black & white manualy developed photos?
3. Is it better to buy large format camera or 6x17 considering the available
lenses (I like the telephoto)?



Unless I'm mistaken, Fuji and Kodak are the lost
folks left making color films in 4x5 size, but
both offer a nice lineup of both C41 and reversal
(chrome) emulsions. Alas, I can't get Reala in
4x5, but there are a couple of versions of
Kodak's Portra and several 160-ISO C41 films
from Fuji.

Developing... I'm in the western suburbs of
Boston and there are about two places in town
that will process sheet film. Cost is about
$2.50 a sheet for processing.

IMO, you'd have a better variety of lenses
with 4x5 than with a 6x17, but I'm not at
all familiar with the latter.


rafe b.
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Old January 24th 05, 02:05 AM
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On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:04:04 -0500, rafe bustin
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On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 02:06:35 +0100, ".::SuperBLUE::."
wrote:

Any old 13 x 18 and a pair of scissors would be a lot cheaper and offer
more possibilities.


I am new to photography, so I would like to ask some dumb questions:

1. Color films for large format and where are they developed?
2. Would large format confine me to black & white manualy developed photos?
3. Is it better to buy large format camera or 6x17 considering the available
lenses (I like the telephoto)?



Unless I'm mistaken, Fuji and Kodak are the lost
folks left making color films in 4x5 size


D'oh. Meant "last folks", of course.


rafe
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Old January 24th 05, 01:45 AM
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".::SuperBLUE::." wrote in message
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Any old 13 x 18 and a pair of scissors would be a lot cheaper and offer
more possibilities.


I am new to photography, so I would like to ask some dumb questions:

1. Color films for large format and where are they developed?
2. Would large format confine me to black & white manualy developed
photos?
3. Is it better to buy large format camera or 6x17 considering the
available
lenses (I like the telephoto)?


As mentioned earlier, 17cm is a relatively unusual fit. 12cm (5x4") is more
commo and far more affordable for telephoto.


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Old January 24th 05, 09:11 PM
Nicholas O. Lindan
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".::SuperBLUE::." wrote

1. Color films for large format and where are they developed?


Most professional large format work is in color, any medium/large city
will have a laboratory that does large format color. You can also do
it yourself in a flat bottom tray resting in a much larger tray of hot
water. Look for the Tetenal kits.

2. Would large format confine me to black & white manualy developed photos?


No.

3. Is it better to buy large format camera or 6x17 considering the available
lenses (I like the telephoto)?


There aren't any lenses available for 6x17 cameras except the one that
came with it and maybe one or two others.

For large format there are 1000's of lenses.

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Old January 25th 05, 01:54 AM
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While a Fuji 617 was my first MF camera I couldn't recommend
it for someone new to photography. It does one thing well but
not much else. Cropping a LF frame to the same aspect will give
the same results but allow for more flexibility: format, lenses,
movements.

Why 6x17 or large format ? Planning wall size murals ?


Roger I. McMillan


..::SuperBLUE::. wrote:
Any old 13 x 18 and a pair of scissors would be a lot cheaper and offer
more possibilities.



I am new to photography, so I would like to ask some dumb questions:

1. Color films for large format and where are they developed?
2. Would large format confine me to black & white manualy developed photos?
3. Is it better to buy large format camera or 6x17 considering the available
lenses (I like the telephoto)?



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Old January 25th 05, 03:31 AM
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While a Fuji 617 was my first MF camera I couldn't recommend
it for someone new to photography. It does one thing well but
not much else. Cropping a LF frame to the same aspect will give
the same results but allow for more flexibility: format, lenses,
movements.


Wouldnt I waste film then? Is it cheaper the 120film way?

Why 6x17 or large format ? Planning wall size murals ?


No, just 60x170cm, 60" width later. city , nihgt prolonged exposures with
cars passing in front of monuments and buildings, geometric erotic, people
in large group shots (schools, football, army,...) , etc.


 




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