FILM IS DEAD !

"Annika1980" skrev i en meddelelse
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Get over it.


It seems film sales has got down a bit. But we still have many Leica M2, M3,
M6, M7 users out there?
Even Nikon F6 users? or Canon EOS1V? What will they do in the future?

I have some vintage cameras which I from time to time have fun taking
pictures with (I think it is called retro....).
So I hope I will be able to get film in the future also. I also hope it is
still possible to get spare tubes for tube amplifiers.......


Max

"Max Perl" wrote in message
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I have some vintage cameras which I from time to time have fun taking
pictures with (I think it is called retro....).
So I hope I will be able to get film in the future also. I also hope it is
still possible to get spare tubes for tube amplifiers.......


Max

I may be wrong but it seems as if people have film
confused with Kodak. I keep reading of new B/W films from the European and
Asian companies, but no one seems to notice that. .Prolly too busy crying
over Kodak junk that was OK before competition. Normally I use Ilford but
I've tried the old school Efke and Gekko 100, and they are excellent, hi
silver films. Film is far from dead, it's just traveling under assumed
names.Bob Hickey

On Mar 31, 11:14 am, "Annika1980" wrote:
On Mar 31, 9:20 am, "Scott W" wrote:

A few like Harry L. will show us that film is not dead but actually
showing us real photos that he has taken with film, go Harry. Just
one of Harry's photos speak far more to the subject then all the
ranting from others who want to tell us just how many rolls of film
they have frozen.

Of course the subject of Harry's pics died 36 years ago ... about 30
years before film died.

R.I.P. Edie.
R.I.P. Film.

But Harry has taken some very nice photos himself, even though he was
using film.
In time he will grow out of it, but for now he is having fun with
film.

Scott

On Mar 31, 4:06 pm, "Ken Nadvornick"
wrote:
"bob hickey" wrote:
I may be wrong but it seems as if people have film
confused with Kodak. I keep reading of new B/W
films from the European and Asian companies, but
no one seems to notice that.

Indeed. Just off the top of my head from memory...

Ilford has just reintroduced it's very popular SFX near-infra red b&w film
in 35mm and 120 formats. They are also reportedly working out some contrast
control issues with a hopefully soon-to-be-released brand new Delta 25 b&w
film.

In the b&w paper department, Ilford is reportedly working on a new cool tone
(bromide?) fiber paper. And they have just announced a new ultra-flat fiber
paper technology that promises air-dried fiber prints much closer in
dimensional stability to their RC cousins. For chemistry there is a brand
new selenium toner just becoming available. And there are also a series of
brand new paper developers for both cool and warm tones.

Paterson has just reintroduced an updated line of b&w chemistry. Mr.
Crawley is seemingly still at work contributing new, as well as tweaked
current, formulas. They have a new chemical producer as well.

Kentmere in England (b&w photo paper manufacturers for something like a
hundred years) not too long ago were forced by rising demand to install a
brand new high-speed b&w paper coating line.

Fuji has recently reintroduced its discontinued Velvia 50 transparency film
following its introduction of a new Velvia 100. Several Fuji product lines
are also being revamped to include their new tellurium sensitization
technology. And it seems there is a new Fuji E-6 film every time one looks
up. I have also heard something about a new Fuji 35mm camera of some sort,
but don't remember the details.

Even Kodak is currently in the process of upgrading it film lines with its
proprietary 2-electron sensitization technology. The Portra color negative
line was first for this, I believe. Other film lines are to follow. Not
too long ago I seem to remember that Kodak even reintroduced 5x7 sheet film
in some of its b&w product lines due to customer demand.

Then there are new 35mm film camera and lens systems (Zeiss,
Voightlander/Cosina), new medium format film (Horseman panoramic),
reintroduced medium format film (Rollei TLRs) and new high-quality
stereoscopic film cameras. And don't even bring up large format. Sales are
through the roof, with many manufacturers putting people on waiting lists or
turning down new orders (Wisner). Zeiss has even introduced a brand new
line of Nikon F-mount manual-focus AIS-style 35mm camera lenses to replace
the discontinued manual Nikkors. (This one strikes close to home for me.)

Of course, none of this can be discussed here because, we're told
(repeatedly), "this is NOT a film group" and "film is dead." So those who
prefer film go to other places where it is allowed to be discussed. *

Of course it is allowed to talk about film here, although there does
not seem to be that much talk about film here. And it is even ok to
talk about how film is better then digital if one is so inclined, but
when someone questions some of the statements regarding film
superiority over digital they are accessed of film bashing.

Look if you want you can talk about how slide film is better then
print film, but you should be ready for someone else to say that you
are wrong and print film is better. Or you can argue the other way
around and find people that will argue the other side.

I have seen many threads that start off with the OP telling us why
film is better then digital, and when someone come to the defense of
digital a few people on this new group get upset. I stress that it is
a few people, many of the people still shooting film are willing to
discuss the merits of both media in much the same way that you might
discuss the merits of one film type over another.

Scott

"bob hickey" wrote:

I may be wrong but it seems as if people have film
confused with Kodak. I keep reading of new B/W
films from the European and Asian companies, but
no one seems to notice that.

Indeed. Just off the top of my head from memory...

Ilford has just reintroduced it's very popular SFX near-infra red b&w film
in 35mm and 120 formats. They are also reportedly working out some contrast
control issues with a hopefully soon-to-be-released brand new Delta 25 b&w
film.

In the b&w paper department, Ilford is reportedly working on a new cool tone
(bromide?) fiber paper. And they have just announced a new ultra-flat fiber
paper technology that promises air-dried fiber prints much closer in
dimensional stability to their RC cousins. For chemistry there is a brand
new selenium toner just becoming available. And there are also a series of
brand new paper developers for both cool and warm tones.

Paterson has just reintroduced an updated line of b&w chemistry. Mr.
Crawley is seemingly still at work contributing new, as well as tweaked
current, formulas. They have a new chemical producer as well.

Kentmere in England (b&w photo paper manufacturers for something like a
hundred years) not too long ago were forced by rising demand to install a
brand new high-speed b&w paper coating line.

Fuji has recently reintroduced its discontinued Velvia 50 transparency film
following its introduction of a new Velvia 100. Several Fuji product lines
are also being revamped to include their new tellurium sensitization
technology. And it seems there is a new Fuji E-6 film every time one looks
up. I have also heard something about a new Fuji 35mm camera of some sort,
but don't remember the details.

Even Kodak is currently in the process of upgrading it film lines with its
proprietary 2-electron sensitization technology. The Portra color negative
line was first for this, I believe. Other film lines are to follow. Not
too long ago I seem to remember that Kodak even reintroduced 5x7 sheet film
in some of its b&w product lines due to customer demand.

Then there are new 35mm film camera and lens systems (Zeiss,
Voightlander/Cosina), new medium format film (Horseman panoramic),
reintroduced medium format film (Rollei TLRs) and new high-quality
stereoscopic film cameras. And don't even bring up large format. Sales are
through the roof, with many manufacturers putting people on waiting lists or
turning down new orders (Wisner). Zeiss has even introduced a brand new
line of Nikon F-mount manual-focus AIS-style 35mm camera lenses to replace
the discontinued manual Nikkors. (This one strikes close to home for me.)

Of course, none of this can be discussed here because, we're told
(repeatedly), "this is NOT a film group" and "film is dead." So those who
prefer film go to other places where it is allowed to be discussed. *

Ken

* www.apug.org (You won't be sorry.)

Annika1980 wrote:
Get over it.

Simply not true.
Get over it.

Väinö Louekari

On Mar 31, 11:00 pm, "Annika1980" wrote:
Get over it.


troll...

On Apr 1, 7:18 am, "Ken Nadvornick"
wrote:


Hardly, of course. But *film user* participation in this forum largely is.
Sorry to disappoint the remaining audience, but Elvis has already left the
building... *


if you turned off your killfile,
you'd notice a lot more film users...

On Apr 1, 7:17 am, "Starlord" wrote:

I've just added 5 more rolls od film to my freezer and took out one rool of
slide film to put in a film camera.

Heck, I"m even considering
a 2ndhand freezer for the garage
so I can keep more film!

On Apr 1, 9:26 am, "bob hickey" wrote:

I may be wrong but it seems as if people have film
confused with Kodak. I keep reading of new B/W films from the European and
Asian companies, but no one seems to notice that. .

Correction: trolls like Annika don't notice it.
Don't confuse lack of participation here by
film users with lack of use of film.
Most are just bored with this type of
troll by folks with a vested interest
in flogging even more digital gear.