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"Exposing to the right" is over exposed, what now?



 
 
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Old October 18th 09, 04:24 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
Paul Furman
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Default "Exposing to the right" is over exposed, what now?

Alan Browne wrote:
Doug McDonald wrote:
Alan Browne wrote:
Doug McDonald wrote:
John McWilliams wrote:


Histograms are of little use with exposures of subjects with
extremes in contrast or very high or very low lighting conditions,
sunsets being their own special case.


Histograms are of MOST use in such settings.

Actually this is where things like Sony's Intelligent Preview come in
most handy. You get a preview image and histo. Then you can play
with the exposure settings and immediately see the simulated effect
on both the image and the histo.

Coming to Canon and Nikon ... one day.


Absurd. Absolutely absurd.


Deaf. Completely deaf.

A "preview image" in the extreme contrast situation is silly.


Since you don't understand what the Intelligent preview provides
(histogram and the image) before you shoot and the ability to simulate
changes in exposure,


Ah, OK, I didn't know that was part of the feature, I thought it just
saved deleting the test image.


you can't understand its benefits. In all conditions.

Since my camera has it, and I use it (in all conditions, including high
contrast), I do understand it.

And can make statements like that above which are assuredly not absurd.



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Old October 18th 09, 06:56 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
Alan Browne
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Default "Exposing to the right" is over exposed, what now?

Paul Furman wrote:
Alan Browne wrote:
Doug McDonald wrote:
Alan Browne wrote:
Doug McDonald wrote:
John McWilliams wrote:


Histograms are of little use with exposures of subjects with
extremes in contrast or very high or very low lighting conditions,
sunsets being their own special case.


Histograms are of MOST use in such settings.

Actually this is where things like Sony's Intelligent Preview come
in most handy. You get a preview image and histo. Then you can
play with the exposure settings and immediately see the simulated
effect on both the image and the histo.

Coming to Canon and Nikon ... one day.

Absurd. Absolutely absurd.


Deaf. Completely deaf.

A "preview image" in the extreme contrast situation is silly.


Since you don't understand what the Intelligent preview provides
(histogram and the image) before you shoot and the ability to simulate
changes in exposure,


Ah, OK, I didn't know that was part of the feature, I thought it just
saved deleting the test image.


I thought I had explained it you sometime ago, Paul, so I'm surprised
your replying for Doug.

Are you Doug McDonald too?

;-)
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Old October 18th 09, 08:41 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
jerry t.
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Default "Exposing to the right" is over exposed, what now?

On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 20:24:28 -0700, Paul Furman
wrote:

Alan Browne wrote:
Doug McDonald wrote:
Alan Browne wrote:
Doug McDonald wrote:
John McWilliams wrote:


Histograms are of little use with exposures of subjects with
extremes in contrast or very high or very low lighting conditions,
sunsets being their own special case.


Histograms are of MOST use in such settings.

Actually this is where things like Sony's Intelligent Preview come in
most handy. You get a preview image and histo. Then you can play
with the exposure settings and immediately see the simulated effect
on both the image and the histo.

Coming to Canon and Nikon ... one day.

Absurd. Absolutely absurd.


Deaf. Completely deaf.

A "preview image" in the extreme contrast situation is silly.


Since you don't understand what the Intelligent preview provides
(histogram and the image) before you shoot and the ability to simulate
changes in exposure,


Ah, OK, I didn't know that was part of the feature, I thought it just
saved deleting the test image.


Attesting again to the FACT that you don't know what the hell you are
talking about. You're so ignorant to what most all decent cameras have had
as basic features for the last seven or more years that it's not even
laughable--pitiable, yes.

For the good of all, don't go handing out any advice, ever. Unless you
educate yourself first with some real-world experience using real cameras.
What a shame that people coming to this forum asking for advice have to
read through your spewage of antiquated misinformation and blatantly WRONG
nonsense.


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Old October 19th 09, 12:56 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
Paul Furman
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Default "Exposing to the right" is over exposed, what now?

Alan Browne wrote:
Paul Furman wrote:
Alan Browne wrote:
Doug McDonald wrote:
Alan Browne wrote:
Doug McDonald wrote:
John McWilliams wrote:


Histograms are of little use with exposures of subjects with
extremes in contrast or very high or very low lighting
conditions, sunsets being their own special case.


Histograms are of MOST use in such settings.

Actually this is where things like Sony's Intelligent Preview come
in most handy. You get a preview image and histo. Then you can
play with the exposure settings and immediately see the simulated
effect on both the image and the histo.

Coming to Canon and Nikon ... one day.

Absurd. Absolutely absurd.

Deaf. Completely deaf.

A "preview image" in the extreme contrast situation is silly.

Since you don't understand what the Intelligent preview provides
(histogram and the image) before you shoot and the ability to
simulate changes in exposure,


Ah, OK, I didn't know that was part of the feature, I thought it just
saved deleting the test image.


I thought I had explained it you sometime ago, Paul, so I'm surprised
your replying for Doug.

Are you Doug McDonald too?

;-)



Just ignorant old me, somehow it didn't sink in when explained before.


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Old October 19th 09, 04:51 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
Doug McDonald[_4_]
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Default "Exposing to the right" is over exposed, what now?



Histograms are of little use with exposures of subjects with
extremes in contrast or very high or very low lighting
conditions, sunsets being their own special case.



I said:

Histograms are of MOST use in such settings.

Actually this is where things like Sony's Intelligent Preview come
in most handy. You get a preview image and histo.



I agree with the preview idea. That's one thing that needs
to be added to dSLRs .... and is in fact being added by makers.

I like the real optical view. But I'd also like a live histogram
superimposed on a preview on the screen. Since this requires,
other than software, just a mechanism to hold the shutter open
without eating battery power, WHY NOT?

Doug McDonald
 




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