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Nikon 135mm f/2 DC
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http://jonaseklundh.se/pages/Nikon_135mm_F2_Dc?lang=en I just got myself the Nikon 135mm/f2 DC. DC is for "Defocus Control", which is Nikon's patented system for controlling the background or foreground blur. Some say this is one of the best portrait lenses in the world, so the expectations are high! I've only been able to try it out a bit, but the technique is that the "Defocus Image Control" ring correlates to the aperture you're using. Se it to 0 and it's a normal lens, but if you use it, you set it to 2 to the "R" (rear) side if you're shooting at f2, which enhances the background blur. Here are some test images: http://jonaseklundh.se/aimg208873.jpg NIKON D4, 135.0 mm, f/2.0, 1/1600 sec., ISO 400 http://jonaseklundh.se/aimg208874.jpg NIKON D800E, 135.0 mm, f/2.0, 1/1600 sec., ISO 640 http://jonaseklundh.se/aimg208875.jpg NIKON D4, 135.0 mm, f/2.0, 1/160 sec., ISO 1000 http://jonaseklundh.se/aimg208876.jpg NIKON D800E, 135.0 mm, f/2.0, 1/320 sec., ISO 1250 http://jonaseklundh.se/aimg208877.jpg NIKON D800E, 135.0 mm, f/4.0, 1/80 sec., ISO 2000 -- Sandman[.net] |
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Nikon 135mm f/2 DC
On 12 May 2014 07:17:33 GMT, Sandman wrote:
I just got myself the Nikon 135mm/f2 DC. DC is for "Defocus Control", which is Nikon's patented system for controlling the background or foreground blur. I have one of these put away somewhere - you have inspired me to use it again, but until I find it I think that mine may be the 105 mm version. Thanks for posting those nice photographs! |
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Nikon 135mm f/2 DC
In article , Polly the Parrott wrote:
Sandman: I just got myself the Nikon 135mm/f2 DC. DC is for "Defocus Control", which is Nikon's patented system for controlling the background or foreground blur. I have one of these put away somewhere - you have inspired me to use it again, but until I find it I think that mine may be the 105 mm version. Yeah, the 105mm is the exact same lens, only shorter. It's just as good Thanks for posting those nice photographs! Thank you -- Sandman[.net] |
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Nikon 135mm f/2 DC
On 5/12/2014 3:17 AM, Sandman wrote:
Blog: http://jonaseklundh.se/pages/Nikon_135mm_F2_Dc?lang=en I just got myself the Nikon 135mm/f2 DC. DC is for "Defocus Control", which is Nikon's patented system for controlling the background or foreground blur. Some say this is one of the best portrait lenses in the world, so the expectations are high! I've only been able to try it out a bit, but the technique is that the "Defocus Image Control" ring correlates to the aperture you're using. Se it to 0 and it's a normal lens, but if you use it, you set it to 2 to the "R" (rear) side if you're shooting at f2, which enhances the background blur. Here are some test images: http://jonaseklundh.se/aimg208873.jpg NIKON D4, 135.0 mm, f/2.0, 1/1600 sec., ISO 400 http://jonaseklundh.se/aimg208874.jpg NIKON D800E, 135.0 mm, f/2.0, 1/1600 sec., ISO 640 http://jonaseklundh.se/aimg208875.jpg NIKON D4, 135.0 mm, f/2.0, 1/160 sec., ISO 1000 http://jonaseklundh.se/aimg208876.jpg NIKON D800E, 135.0 mm, f/2.0, 1/320 sec., ISO 1250 http://jonaseklundh.se/aimg208877.jpg NIKON D800E, 135.0 mm, f/4.0, 1/80 sec., ISO 2000 To my eye there is an overall softness. Is there a way of using more control so you can have some portion in sharp focus, if you want to. Or is this lens pure soft focus, which produces a dreamy effect. I would also like to make an overall comment on the images. The soft bright lights on the right in first of your daughter are distracting to me. I find my eye keeps drifting from your daughter, who is the subject, to those light blurry circles. In my personal opinion when doing soft focus work, you control where you want the viewer to look primarily through tones. The human eye tends to look for the brighter areas. Therefor I would tend to add more luminosity to the area I want the viewer to look at. In the first image of your son, I wold have made his face sharper and his eyes a lot sharper. Having said that I realize the purpose of your images was to demonstrate the lens. -- PeterN |
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Nikon 135mm f/2 DC
Sandman wrote:
Some say this is one of the best portrait lenses in the world, so the expectations are high! You will find it to be exactly that! Basically the 85mm f/1.4D, the 105mm f/2 DC, and the 135mm f/2 DC share much the same character of bokeh, and choosing between them is a matter of which focal length you want to use. The Defocus Control of the 105mm and 135mm lenses is typically misunderstood, and has little use today with digital cameras that provide instant feedback. I've only been able to try it out a bit, but the technique is that the "Defocus Image Control" ring correlates to the aperture you're using. Se it to 0 and it's a normal lens, but if you use it, you set it to 2 to the "R" (rear) side if you're shooting at f2, which enhances the background blur. The DC ring need not be set to the aperture in use, though it's necessary to understand what it does to use it otherwise. But first, note that is does *not* enhance the background blur! It simply moves the DOF in relation to the point of focus. For example, at f/4 the DOF for a 135mm lens focused at 20 feet is from +0.76 feet to -0.82 feet. If the Defocus Control is set to 0, that is what you get. If it is set to R4 though, the back edge of the DOF is moved right up to the point of focus, and everything farther away is out of focus. Hence the DOF with R4 is +0.76 to -0.0 feet. Note that the front DOF does not change and note that the total DOF is now significantly narrower, and that one effect is a steeper angle at the rear edge (things get out of focus faster with R4 than with R0). Consider the same numbers for f/8 when focused at 20 feet. The DOF with R0 is from +1.46 feet to -1.70 feet. If R8 is set, the DOF is reduced to a range of +1.46 to 0.0 feet. That is a much greater change than happened at f/4. And the significance is that only if the aperture is set at f/8 do we get the expected result and our subject at exactly 20 feet distant is still sharp (and anything just a few inches beyond is significantly out of focus). But if we leave the DC at R8 and reset the aperature to f/4, we change the DOF significantly, and with the R8 setting the rear edge is moved much farther than just up to the focus point. The effect is that much, if not all, of the "in focus" DOF area is now unsharply focused! And by the same token, if we use an aperture of f/8, but set DC to R4 it won't move the rear edge of the DOF all the way up to the point of focus, and the effect won't be as dramatic (or as predictable). In practice though, the DC lenses provided an easy to set adjustment to DOF for film cameras where there is no instant preview of the results. It could be accurately set, the shots taken, and 3 days later when the film was developed it was certain what effect would be seen. Today with instant preview the same can be done with any lens using imperical observation or with the aid of a handy DOF calculator on a cell phone. To get the same effect (absent Defocus Control) as would happen at an aperture of f/8, where the R8 setting would provide a DOF range of 1.46 feet, set the aperature to f/3.6 (for a DOF of about 1.4 feet). Then focus at 20.7 feet instead of 20 feet to put the focus right on the edge of the DOF. Take a shot and preview it for effect... But of course just any 135mm, 105mm or 85mm lens won't have that fabulous creamy smooth bokeh. And if another lens doesn't have rounded diaphragm blades the bokeh will change as it is stopped down. So the DC lenses and either the old or the new 85mm f/1.4 lenses are still very special, but not because of the DC. -- Floyd L. Davidson http://www.apaflo.com/ Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) |
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Nikon 135mm f/2 DC
Sandman wrote:
Here are some test images: http://jonaseklundh.se/aimg208873.jpg NIKON D4, 135.0 mm, f/2.0, 1/1600 sec., ISO 400 I can't see any point to this one. http://jonaseklundh.se/aimg208874.jpg NIKON D800E, 135.0 mm, f/2.0, 1/1600 sec., ISO 640 Basically I like this, but think it was a missed opportunity. The focus is in front of the eyes and the DOF is too narrow. Without DC you could stop down slightly to get a wider DOF that includes the eyes, and leave the focus on the tip of the nose. With DC you could focus on the eyes, use f/4 and set DC to R4. Then the eyes and the mouth and nose would all be in focus, but the hair back of the forehead, and ears, would still be blurred. A better job could be done by simply shooting at f/11 and blurring appropriately in post. http://jonaseklundh.se/aimg208875.jpg NIKON D4, 135.0 mm, f/2.0, 1/160 sec., ISO 1000 Not much of a shot, but it does display the nice bokeh well, and that's interesting cat's eye distortion on the out of focus highlight. http://jonaseklundh.se/aimg208876.jpg NIKON D800E, 135.0 mm, f/2.0, 1/320 sec., ISO 1250 Another one that I like, but see as a missed opportunity. By stopping down to f/4 overall sharpness would have been improved. Without DC the focus could be placed in back of the head just far enough to get the same out of focus effect on the arms. With DC something like R4 or R2 would have worked, with focus on his face. http://jonaseklundh.se/aimg208877.jpg NIKON D800E, 135.0 mm, f/4.0, 1/80 sec., ISO 2000 The subject is too dim and the out of focus area is too bright. A missed chance perhaps, given the expression on her face appears to be worth catching. It does demonstrate the smooth bokeh. You don't have to shoot everything wide open! And you can actually use the Defocus Control settings... -- Floyd L. Davidson http://www.apaflo.com/ Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) |
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