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The beginning of the end for consumer DSLRs?
RichA wrote:
Hardly. If you sell less and make more money, margins are higher. My guess? Lenses, especially more expensive new models played a part. If you buy a Nikon D700 now, with a current 35mm f1.4, 85mm f1.4, 70-200mm f2.8 and a 300mm f2.8, you are looking at THOUSANDS more $'s than if you'd purchased the same gear 1 year ago. No **** Sherlock. But what has that to do with consumer DSLRs? -- sid RLU 300284 2010.1 |
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The beginning of the end for consumer DSLRs?
On 2010-10-01 10:47:55 -0700, sid said:
RichA wrote: Hardly. If you sell less and make more money, margins are higher. My guess? Lenses, especially more expensive new models played a part. If you buy a Nikon D700 now, with a current 35mm f1.4, 85mm f1.4, 70-200mm f2.8 and a 300mm f2.8, you are looking at THOUSANDS more $'s than if you'd purchased the same gear 1 year ago. No **** Sherlock. But what has that to do with consumer DSLRs? Consider the current value of the dollar vs. the Yen vs. the Yuan. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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The beginning of the end for consumer DSLRs?
Savageduck wrote:
On 2010-10-01 10:47:55 -0700, sid said: RichA wrote: Hardly. If you sell less and make more money, margins are higher. My guess? Lenses, especially more expensive new models played a part. If you buy a Nikon D700 now, with a current 35mm f1.4, 85mm f1.4, 70-200mm f2.8 and a 300mm f2.8, you are looking at THOUSANDS more $'s than if you'd purchased the same gear 1 year ago. No **** Sherlock. But what has that to do with consumer DSLRs? Consider the current value of the dollar vs. the Yen vs. the Yuan. Yeah but Tonys, sorry "Bruces", op had nothing to do with the cost of loads of pro Nikon gear did it? -- sid RLU 300284 2010.1 |
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The beginning of the end for consumer DSLRs?
On 2010-10-01 11:43:17 -0700, sid said:
Savageduck wrote: On 2010-10-01 10:47:55 -0700, sid said: RichA wrote: Hardly. If you sell less and make more money, margins are higher. My guess? Lenses, especially more expensive new models played a part. If you buy a Nikon D700 now, with a current 35mm f1.4, 85mm f1.4, 70-200mm f2.8 and a 300mm f2.8, you are looking at THOUSANDS more $'s than if you'd purchased the same gear 1 year ago. No **** Sherlock. But what has that to do with consumer DSLRs? Consider the current value of the dollar vs. the Yen vs. the Yuan. Yeah but Tonys, sorry "Bruces", op had nothing to do with the cost of loads of pro Nikon gear did it? Agreed. My remark was a response to the forever whining Rich's intrusive gripe. ....and it was meant as, but one consideration for the symptom he stated. As to the OP, I am sure that one of these days a reason to retire the DSLR will come along. I just don't think we are about to have its successor unveiled tomorrow, or even within the next 12 months. ....but then I am just an old fart with no insight into the manufacturers' R&D departments, so who knows what the New Year will bring? One thing I am sure of, there will be something Rich can bitch about, and something we can all argue over. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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The beginning of the end for consumer DSLRs?
On 10/1/2010 6:21 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2010-10-01 11:43:17 -0700, sid said: Savageduck wrote: On 2010-10-01 10:47:55 -0700, sid said: RichA wrote: Hardly. If you sell less and make more money, margins are higher. My guess? Lenses, especially more expensive new models played a part. If you buy a Nikon D700 now, with a current 35mm f1.4, 85mm f1.4, 70-200mm f2.8 and a 300mm f2.8, you are looking at THOUSANDS more $'s than if you'd purchased the same gear 1 year ago. No **** Sherlock. But what has that to do with consumer DSLRs? Consider the current value of the dollar vs. the Yen vs. the Yuan. Yeah but Tonys, sorry "Bruces", op had nothing to do with the cost of loads of pro Nikon gear did it? Agreed. My remark was a response to the forever whining Rich's intrusive gripe. ...and it was meant as, but one consideration for the symptom he stated. As to the OP, I am sure that one of these days a reason to retire the DSLR will come along. I just don't think we are about to have its successor unveiled tomorrow, or even within the next 12 months. ...but then I am just an old fart with no insight into the manufacturers' R&D departments, so who knows what the New Year will bring? One thing I am sure of, there will be something Rich can bitch about, and something we can all argue over. Correction: Rich will bitch regardless of whether there is justification. He will also blame any group other than Canadian whatever he is, for the worlds troubles. -- Peter |
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The beginning of the end for consumer DSLRs?
On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 15:21:16 -0700, Savageduck
wrote: : On 2010-10-01 11:43:17 -0700, sid said: : : Savageduck wrote: : : On 2010-10-01 10:47:55 -0700, sid : said: : : RichA wrote: : : Hardly. If you sell less and make more money, margins are higher. My : guess? Lenses, especially more expensive new models played a part. : If you buy a Nikon D700 now, with a current 35mm f1.4, 85mm f1.4, : 70-200mm f2.8 and a 300mm f2.8, you are looking at THOUSANDS more $'s : than if you'd purchased the same gear 1 year ago. : : No **** Sherlock. But what has that to do with consumer DSLRs? : : Consider the current value of the dollar vs. the Yen vs. the Yuan. : : Yeah but Tonys, sorry "Bruces", op had nothing to do with the cost of loads : of pro Nikon gear did it? : : Agreed. : My remark was a response to the forever whining Rich's intrusive gripe. : ...and it was meant as, but one consideration for the symptom he stated. : : As to the OP, I am sure that one of these days a reason to retire the : DSLR will come along. I just don't think we are about to have its : successor unveiled tomorrow, or even within the next 12 months. : ...but then I am just an old fart with no insight into the : manufacturers' R&D departments, so who knows what the New Year will : bring? One thing I am sure of, there will be something Rich can bitch : about, and something we can all argue over. What (and where) is the equivalent of Photokina in odd-numbered years? Bob |
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The beginning of the end for consumer DSLRs?
On 2010-10-01 19:22:56 -0700, Robert Coe said:
On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 15:21:16 -0700, Savageduck wrote: : On 2010-10-01 11:43:17 -0700, sid said: : : Savageduck wrote: : : On 2010-10-01 10:47:55 -0700, sid : said: : : RichA wrote: : : Hardly. If you sell less and make more money, margins are higher. My : guess? Lenses, especially more expensive new models played a part. : If you buy a Nikon D700 now, with a current 35mm f1.4, 85mm f1.4, : 70-200mm f2.8 and a 300mm f2.8, you are looking at THOUSANDS more $'s : than if you'd purchased the same gear 1 year ago. : : No **** Sherlock. But what has that to do with consumer DSLRs? : : Consider the current value of the dollar vs. the Yen vs. the Yuan. : : Yeah but Tonys, sorry "Bruces", op had nothing to do with the cost of loads : of pro Nikon gear did it? : : Agreed. : My remark was a response to the forever whining Rich's intrusive gripe. : ...and it was meant as, but one consideration for the symptom he stated. : : As to the OP, I am sure that one of these days a reason to retire the : DSLR will come along. I just don't think we are about to have its : successor unveiled tomorrow, or even within the next 12 months. : ...but then I am just an old fart with no insight into the : manufacturers' R&D departments, so who knows what the New Year will : bring? One thing I am sure of, there will be something Rich can bitch : about, and something we can all argue over. What (and where) is the equivalent of Photokina in odd-numbered years? Bob I am pretty sure any manufacturer who wants to dowse the consumer with the ice bucket revelation of a paradigm shift in camera innovation and design will not want to wait for Photokina for fear of being beaten at the post. Each and every one of the major manufacturers, and many of the lesser players are fully capable of mounting a special event, or press/public release when the jaw dropping machine can no longer be restrained. No calendar will control that agenda. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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The beginning of the end for consumer DSLRs?
"Rich" wrote in message
... [] All DSLRs are consumer DSLRs. No. Not all consumers can afford professional, water-proofed, full-frame DSLRs, nor might they wish the weight of such cameras, flash systems, and their full-frame, wide-aperture lenses. David |
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The beginning of the end for consumer DSLRs?
Rich wrote:
No **** Sherlock. But what has that to do with consumer DSLRs? All DSLRs are consumer DSLRs. Is that it? You're saying it's the begining of the end for *all* DSLRs, yes? -- sid RLU 300284 2010.1 |
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The beginning of the end for consumer DSLRs?
sid wrote in
: Rich wrote: No **** Sherlock. But what has that to do with consumer DSLRs? All DSLRs are consumer DSLRs. Is that it? You're saying it's the begining of the end for *all* DSLRs, yes? I'm saying DSLR days are numbered. Cost-cutting by companies, weight considerations, size considerations will all conspire to usher in EVF mirrorless cameras in all sectors. |
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