The beginning of the end for consumer DSLRs?

RichA wrote:

Hardly. If you sell less and make more money, margins are higher. My
guess? Lenses, especially more expensive new models played a part.
If you buy a Nikon D700 now, with a current 35mm f1.4, 85mm f1.4,
70-200mm f2.8 and a 300mm f2.8, you are looking at THOUSANDS more $'s
than if you'd purchased the same gear 1 year ago.

No **** Sherlock. But what has that to do with consumer DSLRs?

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sid
RLU 300284
2010.1

On 2010-10-01 10:47:55 -0700, sid said:

RichA wrote:

Hardly. If you sell less and make more money, margins are higher. My
guess? Lenses, especially more expensive new models played a part.
If you buy a Nikon D700 now, with a current 35mm f1.4, 85mm f1.4,
70-200mm f2.8 and a 300mm f2.8, you are looking at THOUSANDS more $'s
than if you'd purchased the same gear 1 year ago.

No **** Sherlock. But what has that to do with consumer DSLRs?

Consider the current value of the dollar vs. the Yen vs. the Yuan.


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Regards,

Savageduck

Savageduck wrote:

On 2010-10-01 10:47:55 -0700, sid
said:

RichA wrote:

Hardly. If you sell less and make more money, margins are higher. My
guess? Lenses, especially more expensive new models played a part.
If you buy a Nikon D700 now, with a current 35mm f1.4, 85mm f1.4,
70-200mm f2.8 and a 300mm f2.8, you are looking at THOUSANDS more $'s
than if you'd purchased the same gear 1 year ago.

No **** Sherlock. But what has that to do with consumer DSLRs?

Consider the current value of the dollar vs. the Yen vs. the Yuan.

Yeah but Tonys, sorry "Bruces", op had nothing to do with the cost of loads
of pro Nikon gear did it?

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sid
RLU 300284
2010.1

On 2010-10-01 11:43:17 -0700, sid said:

Savageduck wrote:

On 2010-10-01 10:47:55 -0700, sid
said:

RichA wrote:

Hardly. If you sell less and make more money, margins are higher. My
guess? Lenses, especially more expensive new models played a part.
If you buy a Nikon D700 now, with a current 35mm f1.4, 85mm f1.4,
70-200mm f2.8 and a 300mm f2.8, you are looking at THOUSANDS more $'s
than if you'd purchased the same gear 1 year ago.

No **** Sherlock. But what has that to do with consumer DSLRs?

Consider the current value of the dollar vs. the Yen vs. the Yuan.

Yeah but Tonys, sorry "Bruces", op had nothing to do with the cost of loads
of pro Nikon gear did it?

Agreed.
My remark was a response to the forever whining Rich's intrusive gripe.
....and it was meant as, but one consideration for the symptom he stated.

As to the OP, I am sure that one of these days a reason to retire the
DSLR will come along. I just don't think we are about to have its
successor unveiled tomorrow, or even within the next 12 months.
....but then I am just an old fart with no insight into the
manufacturers' R&D departments, so who knows what the New Year will
bring? One thing I am sure of, there will be something Rich can bitch
about, and something we can all argue over.

--
Regards,

Savageduck

On 10/1/2010 6:21 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2010-10-01 11:43:17 -0700, sid
said:

Savageduck wrote:

On 2010-10-01 10:47:55 -0700, sid
said:

RichA wrote:

Hardly. If you sell less and make more money, margins are higher. My
guess? Lenses, especially more expensive new models played a part.
If you buy a Nikon D700 now, with a current 35mm f1.4, 85mm f1.4,
70-200mm f2.8 and a 300mm f2.8, you are looking at THOUSANDS more $'s
than if you'd purchased the same gear 1 year ago.

No **** Sherlock. But what has that to do with consumer DSLRs?

Consider the current value of the dollar vs. the Yen vs. the Yuan.

Yeah but Tonys, sorry "Bruces", op had nothing to do with the cost of
loads
of pro Nikon gear did it?

Agreed.
My remark was a response to the forever whining Rich's intrusive gripe.
...and it was meant as, but one consideration for the symptom he stated.

As to the OP, I am sure that one of these days a reason to retire the
DSLR will come along. I just don't think we are about to have its
successor unveiled tomorrow, or even within the next 12 months.
...but then I am just an old fart with no insight into the
manufacturers' R&D departments, so who knows what the New Year will
bring? One thing I am sure of, there will be something Rich can bitch
about, and something we can all argue over.


Correction:
Rich will bitch regardless of whether there is justification.
He will also blame any group other than Canadian whatever he is, for the
worlds troubles.

--
Peter

On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 15:21:16 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:
: On 2010-10-01 11:43:17 -0700, sid said:
:
: Savageduck wrote:
:
: On 2010-10-01 10:47:55 -0700, sid
: said:
:
: RichA wrote:
:
: Hardly. If you sell less and make more money, margins are higher. My
: guess? Lenses, especially more expensive new models played a part.
: If you buy a Nikon D700 now, with a current 35mm f1.4, 85mm f1.4,
: 70-200mm f2.8 and a 300mm f2.8, you are looking at THOUSANDS more $'s
: than if you'd purchased the same gear 1 year ago.
:
: No **** Sherlock. But what has that to do with consumer DSLRs?
:
: Consider the current value of the dollar vs. the Yen vs. the Yuan.
:
: Yeah but Tonys, sorry "Bruces", op had nothing to do with the cost of loads
: of pro Nikon gear did it?
:
: Agreed.
: My remark was a response to the forever whining Rich's intrusive gripe.
: ...and it was meant as, but one consideration for the symptom he stated.
:
: As to the OP, I am sure that one of these days a reason to retire the
: DSLR will come along. I just don't think we are about to have its
: successor unveiled tomorrow, or even within the next 12 months.
: ...but then I am just an old fart with no insight into the
: manufacturers' R&D departments, so who knows what the New Year will
: bring? One thing I am sure of, there will be something Rich can bitch
: about, and something we can all argue over.

What (and where) is the equivalent of Photokina in odd-numbered years?

Bob

On 2010-10-01 19:22:56 -0700, Robert Coe said:

On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 15:21:16 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:
: On 2010-10-01 11:43:17 -0700, sid said:
:
: Savageduck wrote:
:
: On 2010-10-01 10:47:55 -0700, sid
: said:
:
: RichA wrote:
:
: Hardly. If you sell less and make more money, margins are higher. My
: guess? Lenses, especially more expensive new models played a part.
: If you buy a Nikon D700 now, with a current 35mm f1.4, 85mm f1.4,
: 70-200mm f2.8 and a 300mm f2.8, you are looking at THOUSANDS more $'s
: than if you'd purchased the same gear 1 year ago.
:
: No **** Sherlock. But what has that to do with consumer DSLRs?
:
: Consider the current value of the dollar vs. the Yen vs. the Yuan.
:
: Yeah but Tonys, sorry "Bruces", op had nothing to do with the cost of loads
: of pro Nikon gear did it?
:
: Agreed.
: My remark was a response to the forever whining Rich's intrusive gripe.
: ...and it was meant as, but one consideration for the symptom he stated.
:
: As to the OP, I am sure that one of these days a reason to retire the
: DSLR will come along. I just don't think we are about to have its
: successor unveiled tomorrow, or even within the next 12 months.
: ...but then I am just an old fart with no insight into the
: manufacturers' R&D departments, so who knows what the New Year will
: bring? One thing I am sure of, there will be something Rich can bitch
: about, and something we can all argue over.

What (and where) is the equivalent of Photokina in odd-numbered years?

Bob

I am pretty sure any manufacturer who wants to dowse the consumer with
the ice bucket revelation of a paradigm shift in camera innovation and
design will not want to wait for Photokina for fear of being beaten at
the post.
Each and every one of the major manufacturers, and many of the lesser
players are fully capable of mounting a special event, or press/public
release when the jaw dropping machine can no longer be restrained.
No calendar will control that agenda.

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Regards,

Savageduck

"Rich" wrote in message
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All DSLRs are consumer DSLRs.

No. Not all consumers can afford professional, water-proofed, full-frame
DSLRs, nor might they wish the weight of such cameras, flash systems, and
their full-frame, wide-aperture lenses.

David

Rich wrote:

No **** Sherlock. But what has that to do with consumer DSLRs?


All DSLRs are consumer DSLRs.

Is that it? You're saying it's the begining of the end for *all* DSLRs, yes?

--
sid
RLU 300284
2010.1

sid wrote in
:

Rich wrote:

No **** Sherlock. But what has that to do with consumer DSLRs?


All DSLRs are consumer DSLRs.

Is that it? You're saying it's the begining of the end for *all*
DSLRs, yes?


I'm saying DSLR days are numbered. Cost-cutting by companies, weight
considerations, size considerations will all conspire to usher in EVF
mirrorless cameras in all sectors.