ARCHIVAL CDs - 300 YEARS LIFE!

According to ian :

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In 300 years time after the "great burn" technology will be outlawed as
the
root of all evil.We will go back to living with the plough and the sword.


Have you read "A Canticle for Leibowitz"?

You should...

never heard of it. I was quoting "orac" from an episode of blakes 7 and
deconstructing falling stars from babylon 5.

It is an excellent story based on a post-apocalypse world, but
one with the opposite view of technology to that suggested above. I
won't spoil it for you by giving any more details.

These days i'm more of a terry pratchett fan. He is a genius.

I certainly enjoy him -- everything of his which I have so far
found and read -- but he has a very different view (or set of views) of
the world.

Enjoy,
DoN.
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According to William Graham :

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300 years into the future who knows, technology could very well be
vastly
superior and able to decipher all kinds of stuff. Then again mankind
may
just cease to exist sooner then that time, so what will it matter?

In 300 years time after the "great burn" technology will be outlawed as
the
root of all evil.We will go back to living with the plough and the
sword.

Sorry, but you can't make ploughs and swords without technology.....A decent
one of either requires a steel mill and Bessemer converter. This is
technology with a capitol "T".....

Actually -- as long as you aren't facing opponents armed with
steel, bronze can make an excellent one of either -- though back then,
it was *way* too expensive to use for plows -- except as part of a
Biblical disarmament pact.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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"Greg "_"" wrote in message
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[SNIP]

300 years into the future who knows, technology could very well be
vastly
superior and able to decipher all kinds of stuff. Then again mankind
may
just cease to exist sooner then that time, so what will it matter?

In 300 years time after the "great burn" technology will be outlawed as
the
root of all evil.We will go back to living with the plough and the
sword.

Sorry, but you can't make ploughs and swords without technology.....A
decent one of either requires a steel mill and Bessemer converter. This is
technology with a capitol "T".....

erm naff swords were made long before then. impact welding. heat each
piece then wack them really hard into each other. STart off with 5kilos of
naff grade ore and end up with a so so laminate sword weighting 1.5 kilos.
As for a plough a large stone being dragged through the ground by a couple a
yaks isn't what ya call hi tech.

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According to ian :

"Bandicoot" wrote in message
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"ian" wrote in message

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In 300 years time after the "great burn" technology will be outlawed
as
the
root of all evil.We will go back to living with the plough and the
sword.


Have you read "A Canticle for Leibowitz"?

You should...

never heard of it. I was quoting "orac" from an episode of blakes 7 and
deconstructing falling stars from babylon 5.

It is an excellent story based on a post-apocalypse world, but
one with the opposite view of technology to that suggested above. I
won't spoil it for you by giving any more details.

These days i'm more of a terry pratchett fan. He is a genius.

I certainly enjoy him -- everything of his which I have so far
found and read -- but he has a very different view (or set of views) of
the world.

"Well its not rocket magic is it?"
commander vimes of the watch.

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According to ian :

"Bandicoot" wrote in message
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"ian" wrote in message

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In 300 years time after the "great burn" technology will be outlawed
as
the
root of all evil.We will go back to living with the plough and the
sword.


Have you read "A Canticle for Leibowitz"?

You should...

found it on amazon.

also a link to novice. One of the black magician novels. I read the first
mammoth book called magician. Funnily enough in that one they battle the
tsurranni. Who don't have metal on their own world but make a fearsome one
out of glass fibre.

"ian" wrote in message
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"Greg "_"" wrote in message
...
[SNIP]

300 years into the future who knows, technology could very well be
vastly superior and able to decipher all kinds of stuff. Then again
mankind may just cease to exist sooner then that time, so what will
it
matter?

In 300 years time after the "great burn" technology will be outlawed as
the root of all evil.We will go back to living with the plough and the
sword.


Have you read "A Canticle for Leibowitz"?

You should...

never heard of it. I was quoting "orac" from an episode of blakes 7 and
deconstructing falling stars from babylon 5.

These days i'm more of a terry pratchett fan. He is a genius.


I liked Orac - I wish my computer had as much personality... ;-)

"A Canticle for Leibowitz" is by Walter M Miller, written quite a long time
ago, but still a really great read. I can imagine it may have been one of
Neal Asher's (doubtless many) influences.


Peter

According to William Graham :
Sorry, but you can't make ploughs and swords
without technology.....A decent
one of either requires a steel mill and Bessemer
converter.

Saracens http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damascus_steel

and Samurai http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katana

On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 21:34:30 GMT, "ian" wrote:


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In article , Jim wrote:

On 2006-08-17 19:12:35 -0400, ColinD said:

Well, the CD versus negative storage longevity arguments are now put to
rest. Kodak have announced their new Gold Preservation CDs and DVDs.

Using pure gold reflective layers, phthalocyanine dye, and triple-layer
protection, they say the useful life of a CD is 300 years, and the DVDs
80 - 100 years.

Check:

http://www.kmpmedia.com/kodak-gold.html

Colin D.

And will I have any device capable of reading these in 300 years? I
think not!

300 years into the future who knows, technology could very well be vastly
superior and able to decipher all kinds of stuff. Then again mankind may
just cease to exist sooner then that time, so what will it matter?

In 300 years time after the "great burn" technology will be outlawed as the
root of all evil.We will go back to living with the plough and the sword.

Ah, but even those were considered technological advancements. Some
might even say fire was as well.


"we live for the one
we die for the one"

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

In rec.photo.equipment.35mm ian wrote:

"Nicholas O. Lindan" wrote in message
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"ian" wrote

Like 8 inch floppies? Used to have stacks and stacks of them.

no i mean ubiquitous. in eveyone has them. unlike 8 inch floppies.


So what size floppies did you have when everybody who had floppies used
8 inch ones?

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Sander Vesik wrote:

In rec.photo.equipment.35mm ian wrote:

"Nicholas O. Lindan" wrote in message
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"ian" wrote

Like 8 inch floppies? Used to have stacks and stacks of them.

no i mean ubiquitous. in eveyone has them. unlike 8 inch floppies.



So what size floppies did you have when everybody who had floppies used
8 inch ones?


Probably like me, didn't have a computer of his own. Very few PCs came
with an 8" floppy drive, that was pretty much a "roll your own" sort of
deal.

When people finally were able to buy a ready made computer, the 5-1/4"
drive was standard.





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