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Pictures in airplane cabins
"Bruce" wrote in message
... On Tue, 18 May 2010 09:16:01 -0700, C J Campbell wrote: On 2010-05-18 05:29:38 -0700, Bruce said: On Tue, 18 May 2010 04:12:29 -0700, C J Campbell wrote: On 2010-05-18 00:41:41 -0700, Bruce said: On Mon, 17 May 2010 16:45:41 -0700, C J Campbell wrote: You have confused "private property" with "private place." An airplane, cruise ship, restaurant, sports stadium, or garden might well be private property. But they are public places -- open to the general public. As such, the burden of proof is on you to show that you have a reasonable expectation of privacy in such places. Everyone should beware amateur "legal experts" who post on Usenet newsgroups. ROFL! Such as yourself, you mean? On the contrary, because I shoot images for a living, I have to know where I stand in relation to the law. As a result, I pay for, and take account of, specialist legal advice. You, on the other hand, can give all the BS advice you want, because you haven't any experience to tell you just how wrong you are. You are completely out of touch with reality. Actually, I also pay for specialist legal advice. Okay, so my lawyer disagrees with your lawyer. Mine is one of the UK's top intellectual property lawyers who also lectures in IP law at two Ivy League universities and at the UK's top law school. I emailed him a copy of this thread. He called me to thank me for giving him his best laugh so far in 2010 (it was your comments that he found especially amusing) and asked me if he could use the discussion in his lectures as a particularly good illustration of people's ignorance about the law. I said that appeared to be almost a definition of "fair use" and he laughed even more ... You are truly hilarious. Congratulations! If he was half the expert you claim him to be he would have pointed out that laws differ in different jurisdictions. IOW.................................... -- Peter |
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"nospam" wrote in message
... In article , J. Clarke wrote: US law does not apply to Chinese airlines doing business in the Far East. neither does the opinion of a lawyer from the uk. Assuming that one really exists. -- Peter |
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In article , Peter
wrote: US law does not apply to Chinese airlines doing business in the Far East. neither does the opinion of a lawyer from the uk. Assuming that one really exists. i'm sure there are lawyers in the uk |
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"nospam" wrote in message
... In article , Peter wrote: US law does not apply to Chinese airlines doing business in the Far East. neither does the opinion of a lawyer from the uk. Assuming that one really exists. i'm sure there are lawyers in the uk I think they are called barristers and solicitors. Thinking about the female barrister who dropped her briefs and became a solicitor. duck -- Peter |
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On 2010-05-18 17:07:40 -0700, "Peter" said:
"Bruce" wrote in message ... On Tue, 18 May 2010 09:16:01 -0700, C J Campbell wrote: On 2010-05-18 05:29:38 -0700, Bruce said: On Tue, 18 May 2010 04:12:29 -0700, C J Campbell wrote: On 2010-05-18 00:41:41 -0700, Bruce said: On Mon, 17 May 2010 16:45:41 -0700, C J Campbell wrote: You have confused "private property" with "private place." An airplane, cruise ship, restaurant, sports stadium, or garden might well be private property. But they are public places -- open to the general public. As such, the burden of proof is on you to show that you have a reasonable expectation of privacy in such places. Everyone should beware amateur "legal experts" who post on Usenet newsgroups. ROFL! Such as yourself, you mean? On the contrary, because I shoot images for a living, I have to know where I stand in relation to the law. As a result, I pay for, and take account of, specialist legal advice. You, on the other hand, can give all the BS advice you want, because you haven't any experience to tell you just how wrong you are. You are completely out of touch with reality. Actually, I also pay for specialist legal advice. Okay, so my lawyer disagrees with your lawyer. Mine is one of the UK's top intellectual property lawyers who also lectures in IP law at two Ivy League universities and at the UK's top law school. I emailed him a copy of this thread. He called me to thank me for giving him his best laugh so far in 2010 (it was your comments that he found especially amusing) and asked me if he could use the discussion in his lectures as a particularly good illustration of people's ignorance about the law. I said that appeared to be almost a definition of "fair use" and he laughed even more ... You are truly hilarious. Congratulations! If he was half the expert you claim him to be he would have pointed out that laws differ in different jurisdictions. IOW.................................... If he exists at all. -- Waddling Eagle World Famous Flight Instructor |
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Bruce wrote:
On Wed, 19 May 2010 06:58:47 -0700, C J Campbell wrote: On 2010-05-18 17:07:40 -0700, "Peter" said: If he was half the expert you claim him to be he would have pointed out that laws differ in different jurisdictions. IOW.................................... If he exists at all. That's a pretty lame answer from someone who, just a couple of posts ago, was dishing out "definitive advice". Of course that turned out to be pure, 100% BS. As for laws differing across the world, of course they do. But one area of law where there is a welcome (though not total) degree of convergence is that which relates to photography. The IP lawyer I consulted has practised in London, Paris, New York and Hong Kong. May we ask who this lawer is. Maybe, if he is that good someone here may want to use his services. Please give us some info so we can look him up. MC |
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In message , nospam
writes In article , Chris H wrote: nonsense. absent a prohibition of photography, it is completely legal. Not always. ok, unless you are trespassing or where there's an expectation of privacy, and an airline cabin does not qualify for either one. countless people take photos inside and outside airplanes and at airports every day. neither of these sites would be possible if it were illegal: It is not legal at all airports. it is in the usa. In fact some Brits got locked up for taking pictures of aeroplanes at a civil airport.... the brits have a stick up their ass about photography in public. It was not in the UK -- \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills Staffs England /\/\/\/\/ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ |
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In message , Peter
writes Thinking about the female barrister who dropped her briefs and became a solicitor. duck Very good... :-) -- \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills Staffs England /\/\/\/\/ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ |
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In article , Bruce
wrote: As for laws differing across the world, of course they do. But one area of law where there is a welcome (though not total) degree of convergence is that which relates to photography. The IP lawyer I consulted has practised in London, Paris, New York and Hong Kong. he's licensed to practice in all four?? bull****. |
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On 5/19/2010 4:24 PM, nospam wrote:
In , Bruce wrote: As for laws differing across the world, of course they do. But one area of law where there is a welcome (though not total) degree of convergence is that which relates to photography. The IP lawyer I consulted has practised in London, Paris, New York and Hong Kong. he's licensed to practice in all four?? bull****. Regardless, London, New York, and Hong Kong all have legal systems based on English Common Law--while the details are different in broad outline they are much alike. Dunno about Paris, given that they've let the Eiffel Tower people prevent anyone from shooting the Eiffel Tower at night due to the copyright on the lights I would suspect that they were a bit more restrictive. I suspect that if he had experience in a Communist country or an Islamic one that practices Sharia he'd have a different view. |
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