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Old August 6th 18, 09:37 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article , PeterN
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Yeah, but...what do you think of the P1000?

The ultimate private detective camera.

actually that would be an infrared camera.


Why?


because infrared light is not visible to humans, so a detective could
take photos in the dark, lit by infrared flash, and nobody would notice
anything unusual.

another use is forensics to detect forgeries or other anomalies.
https://kolarivision.com/articles/forensics/


True infrared might not show sufficient details for meaningful
identification. Images taken from a long distance would.


not necessarily. the above example clearly shows what was underneath
smeared ink as well as a bogus check.

there are many other examples, including cover up paint to hide damage,
however, nothing is guaranteed in all situations.

I suspect you
were conflating near IR with true IR.


i wasn't conflating anything.

BTW you just reminded me that Apple used to sell IR lenses in its
stores, but recently stopped. i want to see if they are available online.


for the iphone? if they did, it was a third party product.
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Old August 6th 18, 10:03 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On Aug 6, 2018, PeterN wrote
(in article ):

On 8/6/2018 3:54 PM, nospam wrote:
In , PeterN
wrote:

Yeah, but...what do you think of the P1000?

The ultimate private detective camera.

actually that would be an infrared camera.

Why?


because infrared light is not visible to humans, so a detective could
take photos in the dark, lit by infrared flash, and nobody would notice
anything unusual.

another use is forensics to detect forgeries or other anomalies.
https://kolarivision.com/articles/forensics/


True infrared might not show sufficient details for meaningful
identification. Images taken from a long distance would. I suspect you
were conflating near IR with true IR.
BTW you just reminded me that Apple used to sell IR lenses in its
stores, but recently stopped. i want to see if they are available online.


Forensic IR, and/or UV photography is a different animal to IR photography at
the hobbyist level.

IR, and UV photography is use for collection of latent evidence not visible
to the naked eye. Stuff such as document examination, latent footwear
impressions, fingerprints, body fluids including blood, pattern injuries such
as bitemarks. The tools and lighting techniques include, but are not limited
to various filter, and light source options, reflective IR, reflective UV,
and IR fluorescence.

Cameras converted for forensic use are not generally available to non-law
enforcement, even from B&H, or Lifepixel.

https://www.lifepixel.com/infrared-p...ications-uses-
forensics

https://www.lifepixel.com/uv-ir-forensics

http://www.evidencemagazine.com/inde...sk=view&id=106


http://www.evidencemagazine.com/inde...sk=view&id=228
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https://kolarivision.com/articles/forensics/
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Old August 6th 18, 10:24 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article .com,
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Cameras converted for forensic use are not generally available to non-law
enforcement, even from B&H, or Lifepixel.


officially, perhaps.

fuji had an ir slr that required an affidavit for how it would be used.
the camera has been discontinued and can be found on ebay. all it takes
is a winning bid.
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Old August 6th 18, 10:41 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On Aug 6, 2018, nospam wrote
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In iganews.com,
Savageduck wrote:

Cameras converted for forensic use are not generally available to non-law
enforcement, even from B&H, or Lifepixel.


officially, perhaps.

fuji had an ir slr that required an affidavit for how it would be used.
the camera has been discontinued and can be found on ebay. all it takes
is a winning bid.


Note; I wrote, “...are not generally available to non law enforcement”.
That does not mean that there is no way to obtain cameras converted for
forensic IR/UV work.

The big question is what that non-law enforcement individual would do with
such a conversion.

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Old August 6th 18, 10:43 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article .com,
Savageduck wrote:


The big question is what that non-law enforcement individual would do with
such a conversion.


helping overworked cops, of course.
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Old August 6th 18, 10:49 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On Aug 6, 2018, nospam wrote
(in ) :

In iganews.com,
Savageduck wrote:


The big question is what that non-law enforcement individual would do with
such a conversion.


helping overworked cops, of course.


:-)

We retired so that we could access all that accrued overtime, and leave
credits.

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Old August 7th 18, 04:01 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 8/6/2018 4:37 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , PeterN
wrote:

Yeah, but...what do you think of the P1000?

The ultimate private detective camera.

actually that would be an infrared camera.


Why?

because infrared light is not visible to humans, so a detective could
take photos in the dark, lit by infrared flash, and nobody would notice
anything unusual.

another use is forensics to detect forgeries or other anomalies.
https://kolarivision.com/articles/forensics/


True infrared might not show sufficient details for meaningful
identification. Images taken from a long distance would.


not necessarily. the above example clearly shows what was underneath
smeared ink as well as a bogus check.

there are many other examples, including cover up paint to hide damage,
however, nothing is guaranteed in all situations.

I suspect you
were conflating near IR with true IR.


i wasn't conflating anything.


Your examples have no relevance to my statement. I was obviously talking
about a "SPY CAMERA." And the context was a camera that will have a
3,000 mm optical lens, and claimed by Nikon to be usable as a 6,000 mm
lens.



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Old August 7th 18, 01:08 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article , PeterN
wrote:

Yeah, but...what do you think of the P1000?

The ultimate private detective camera.

actually that would be an infrared camera.


Why?

because infrared light is not visible to humans, so a detective could
take photos in the dark, lit by infrared flash, and nobody would notice
anything unusual.

another use is forensics to detect forgeries or other anomalies.
https://kolarivision.com/articles/forensics/

True infrared might not show sufficient details for meaningful
identification. Images taken from a long distance would.


not necessarily. the above example clearly shows what was underneath
smeared ink as well as a bogus check.

there are many other examples, including cover up paint to hide damage,
however, nothing is guaranteed in all situations.

I suspect you
were conflating near IR with true IR.


i wasn't conflating anything.


Your examples have no relevance to my statement. I was obviously talking
about a "SPY CAMERA." And the context was a camera that will have a
3,000 mm optical lens, and claimed by Nikon to be usable as a 6,000 mm
lens.


the topic was:
The ultimate private detective camera.


you did not mention spy camera until just now.
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Old August 7th 18, 03:03 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On Aug 6, 2018, PeterN wrote
(in article ):


Your examples have no relevance to my statement. I was obviously talking
about a "SPY CAMERA." And the context was a camera that will have a
3,000 mm optical lens, and claimed by Nikon to be usable as a 6,000 mm
lens.


What on earth is a “SPY CAMERA”?

Just about the only thing I can think of which meets that definition is the
old Minox, and that doesn’t have a 3,000mm lens.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minox

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Old August 7th 18, 04:24 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 06/08/2018 20:07, PeterN wrote:
On 8/5/2018 10:22 PM, Bill W wrote:
On Sun, 5 Aug 2018 21:46:42 -0400, PeterN
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On 8/4/2018 5:42 PM, John Turco wrote:
On 8/2/2018 4:36 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , John Turco
wrote:


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Yeah, but...what do you think of the P1000?

John

I will try it when it's available, and buy it if there is not too much
noise, or shutter lag.


That thing's going to need some extraordinary IS. Or a tripod.


Or high ISO capability, and extraordinary tracking ability. I suspect it
will not be suitable for me, but I will give it a fair try.


Without a tripod (or a pretty steady support, for a stationary target)
it is going to be very difficult to use at full zoom.
 




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