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Photographing Cars
A close buddy of mine has just bought a new car and has asked me if I can
take some photos. I agreed, but to be honest, car's are something I have not really shot much before, so I am a bit in new territory. Still, I think that it will be interesting to shoot something totally different and a good learning experience. The difficulty is that I am a bit of a perfectionist and am determined to walk away with some great shots, so want to do some preparation beforehand. Of course, on the day with camera in hand, anything goes when your eyes take over. There is a disused airfield nearby and I am going to shoot there. I will be shooting both static and action shots. I am no newbie to photography, so at the moment, I have a few ideas on certain angles, vehicle/shutter speeds, etc that I would like to try, however this is just theory in my head at the moment. So, I would be interested to hear about creative composition ideas, etc from other people that have shot cars before. Or the more tricky photo situation of shooting people with a car. Shooting people, I can handle no problem, but when trying to balance two major subjects, it's a bit more difficult. In addition, I would also be interested to see any inspirational photos of cars or cars/people that you particularly like (from a photography point of view). I have had a look around, but to be honest, I haven't found many great shots when cars are involved that give me any real inspiration. Just for info the tools I will be taking are a 20D and a 40D. I will also take the following lenses: 10-22, 24 1.4, 50 1.2, 70-200 2.8, and a 1.4 converter. Not really important, but I think that it may help build a picture of the scenario. |
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Ali wrote: A close buddy of mine has just bought a new car and has asked me if I can take some photos. I agreed, but to be honest, car's are something I have not really shot much before, so I am a bit in new territory. [ ... ] Just for info the tools I will be taking are a 20D and a 40D. I will also take the following lenses: 10-22, 24 1.4, 50 1.2, 70-200 2.8, and a 1.4 converter. Not really important, but I think that it may help build a picture of the scenario. Look at a few auto-photo calendars and see what you like. Show them to your close buddy and ask what he likes; a photo-savvy guy like you should be able to meet his needs. Me, I like cars mostly for what they /do/, not for how they /look/. Car portaits are neat, cool, all those things, and necessary for commercial pages, but the world is more like a movie than like a museum, my view. I like lenses close to human-portrait length; cars just look more poised and concise to me. if you have to leave all but one lens at home, carry the 50mm for your car work. I've used each of the focal lengths you list to photograph cars to reasonable effect, for interesting effects; however, 70-100mm is meat-and-potatoes to me. There is reason to hold the camera at eye level: we're used to seeing things that way, perception requires less adjustment. There are many reasons to get off that level, depending on what you want to show viewers. I always take one shot at eye-level, for each angle, followed by as many raised and lowered positions as I can manage from that approach. Neither of these is particularly good, but which do you think is "better"? http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2076/...6fb33e21_o.jpg http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2288/...2f5f83c3_o.jpg Depending on the color of the car, you may want to provide for HDR (is that a word?) and multiple exposures for pulling back in the color of sky and sunlit background bleached by proper exposure of dark finishes. I expect 2/3 to 1-1/3 stop underexposure to produce workable results. A light tent (overcast or large open shade area) eliminates some problems and creates others: http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1243/...9b0b2bc5_o.jpg I've used 1/40, 1/90, 1/125, and 1/350 for cars moving across the field, with varying results within each shutter speed; a matter of practice, technique, and luck. This one last Saturday on the Ortega Highway was 1/125: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2245/...ae406b29_o.jpg This one was 1/350 or so: http://www.fototime.com/4DEFF610581919D/orig.jpg I like the swooshy one. A few weeks earlier at 1/40: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2072/...8ab1a298_b.jpg Still earlier, an intermediate speed I've forgotten: http://farm1.static.flickr.com/130/4...4e919afc_o.jpg I'm sure you'll get other perspectives. I like car photography, but not so much car /portrait/ photography. -- Frank ess |
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On Jan 30, 2:54*pm, "Ali" wrote:
A close buddy of mine has just bought a new car and has asked me if I can take some photos. *I agreed, but to be honest, car's are something I have not really shot much before, so I am a bit in new territory. *Still, I think that it will be interesting to shoot something totally different and a good learning experience. *The difficulty is that I am a bit of a perfectionist and am determined to walk away with some great shots, so want to do some preparation beforehand. *Of course, on the day with camera in hand, anything goes when your eyes take over. There is a disused airfield nearby and I am going to shoot there. *I will be shooting both static and action shots. *I am no newbie to photography, so at the moment, I have a few ideas on certain angles, vehicle/shutter speeds, etc that I would like to try, however this is just theory in my head at the moment. *So, I would be interested to hear about creative composition ideas, etc from other people that have shot cars before. *Or the more tricky photo situation of shooting people with a car. *Shooting people, I can handle no problem, but when trying to balance two major subjects, it's a bit more difficult. In addition, I would also be interested to see any inspirational photos of cars or cars/people that you particularly like (from a photography point of view). *I have had a look around, but to be honest, I haven't found many great shots when cars are involved that give me any real inspiration. Just for info the tools I will be taking are a 20D and a 40D. *I will also take the following lenses: *10-22, 24 1.4, 50 1.2, 70-200 2.8, and a 1.4 converter. *Not really important, but I think that it may help build a picture of the scenario. If you want to see how the best pro's shoot cars, look at promo shots released by the manufacturers. Sure, they are Photoshopped to death, but they still have to start with great shots. Also, study the photography in Car and Driver Magazine. It is phenomenal...as far as periodicals go, there are none better. Cars are fun to shoot. I've had my work featured in MuscleCar Review, Mopar Muscle, Corvette Fever, Super Ford, Mustang Monthly, Chevy Action magazines (maybe a couple of others), and a couple of books and some calendars. Although there is a pretty standard formula for what publishers want (angles, composition, details, etc.), every shoot is different, unless you're at a show shooting several cars (as many as you have time to cram in) in the same location (same background). The first thing to consider is the background. An airstrip is actually an ideal place, with lots of wide open space. You want a clean background, with no utility poles sticking out of the roof, or concrete pillars sticking out of the hood/trunk. Think "CLEEEAAN". Also, look for good pavement. No oil spots, tire marks, painted stripes, asphalt patches, etc., these are all things that you might not notice in the viewfinder, but will look terrible in a print. If you have time, it wouldn't hurt to take some advance test shots of another car in your chosen location to evaluate. Lighting...well, good light is good light no matter what you're shooting. I like to say that "Magic Hour" is from 45 minutes before sunset to 15 minutes after sunset. This is for exterior shots, not so important for interior/engine shots. If you are going to shoot interior/ engine, you can get there early and do these first. I like to position the car facing straight away from the sun so the hood shades the engine, and use a reflector to bounce a nice soft light onto the engine. This also works for the interior, but is somewhat harder to do. I usually shoot all natural light, bounce light, and bounce/fill flash on interiors/engines. Especially with interior shots, make sure the interior is SPOTLESS. No dust on the instrument panel, no mud/footprints on the carpet or pedals. Wipe fingerprints from chrome (probably not an issue if it's a new car!) As with the background, you wont see it until it's too late. Oh, and don't forget to center the steering wheel. Composition - Fill The Frame!!! Remember, you're not shooting landscapes...you want to see as much detail as possible in the subject, not the pretty oak trees 300 yards away. Same with engine shots...make the engine go edge-to-edge, you've already got the fenders covered in the exterior shots! Look for bad reflections in your exterior shots, especially reflections of yourself. They're hard to avoid on curved surfaces. It's pretty cold here in Kansas City, but one technique I like to use on a hot summer day is to park the car on level ground and move way back with a (say) 300 mm lens, It'll give the effect of the tires melting into the pavement. Play around with different angles...unlike landscapes or portraits, you can skew the camera to give a dramatic uphill or downhill effect. Have fun!!! J |
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Here are some example using a 30D with 28-70 L and a 500 L
http://www.dahl-stamnes.net/Foto/album.php?map=Rally06 -- Jørn Dahl-Stamnes http://www.dahl-stamnes.net/dahls/ |
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On Jan 30, 2:54 pm, "Ali" wrote:
A close buddy of mine has just bought a new car and has asked me if I can take some photos. I agreed, but to be honest, car's are something I have not really shot much before, so I am a bit in new territory. Still, I think that it will be interesting to shoot something totally different and a good learning experience. The difficulty is that I am a bit of a perfectionist and am determined to walk away with some great shots, so want to do some preparation beforehand. Of course, on the day with camera in hand, anything goes when your eyes take over. There is a disused airfield nearby and I am going to shoot there. I will be shooting both static and action shots. I am no newbie to photography, so at the moment, I have a few ideas on certain angles, vehicle/shutter speeds, etc that I would like to try, however this is just theory in my head at the moment. So, I would be interested to hear about creative composition ideas, etc from other people that have shot cars before. Or the more tricky photo situation of shooting people with a car. Shooting people, I can handle no problem, but when trying to balance two major subjects, it's a bit more difficult. In addition, I would also be interested to see any inspirational photos of cars or cars/people that you particularly like (from a photography point of view). I have had a look around, but to be honest, I haven't found many great shots when cars are involved that give me any real inspiration. Just for info the tools I will be taking are a 20D and a 40D. I will also take the following lenses: 10-22, 24 1.4, 50 1.2, 70-200 2.8, and a 1.4 converter. Not really important, but I think that it may help build a picture of the scenario. The people who take car photos for advertising have a LOT of tricks. Use a slightly wide angle focal length, say 40mm (35mm equivalent). Shoot only in sunlight, not cloudy or cloudy/bright. Use a somewhat low camera angle- lower than eye level on normal adult. Try to find a non-distracting (plain) background of color complementary to car color. Quartering view- especially front quarter- are preferrable to square- on shots. |
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I must admit , I wasn't expecting this response. When I re-read my post I
cringed a bit and was only expecting maybe one reply. Not only did I get a more replies than I expected, but ALL the replies were fantastic. As for Jay Martins post, I really, really wasn't expecting this. I must admit, I haven't been totally honest. I took my own car out to the location and took some test shots before posting, just to experiment and also to look at particular areas/ambient light on the airfield. Reading Jay's post is a bit freaky for me, because his post was so, so close to my own logic and what I was looking for and also the shots that I actually took (with the exception of the tyres melting into the road surface). I have also been toying with the idea of finding a way to attach the camera to the car on a boom for motion shots without the speed, but am scratching my head on this one at the moment. I haven't had a chance to look at the external links in the posts yet, but I will at the weekend when I have a bit more time. "Ali" wrote in message ... A close buddy of mine has just bought a new car and has asked me if I can take some photos. I agreed, but to be honest, car's are something I have not really shot much before, so I am a bit in new territory. Still, I think that it will be interesting to shoot something totally different and a good learning experience. The difficulty is that I am a bit of a perfectionist and am determined to walk away with some great shots, so want to do some preparation beforehand. Of course, on the day with camera in hand, anything goes when your eyes take over. There is a disused airfield nearby and I am going to shoot there. I will be shooting both static and action shots. I am no newbie to photography, so at the moment, I have a few ideas on certain angles, vehicle/shutter speeds, etc that I would like to try, however this is just theory in my head at the moment. So, I would be interested to hear about creative composition ideas, etc from other people that have shot cars before. Or the more tricky photo situation of shooting people with a car. Shooting people, I can handle no problem, but when trying to balance two major subjects, it's a bit more difficult. In addition, I would also be interested to see any inspirational photos of cars or cars/people that you particularly like (from a photography point of view). I have had a look around, but to be honest, I haven't found many great shots when cars are involved that give me any real inspiration. Just for info the tools I will be taking are a 20D and a 40D. I will also take the following lenses: 10-22, 24 1.4, 50 1.2, 70-200 2.8, and a 1.4 converter. Not really important, but I think that it may help build a picture of the scenario. |
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On Jan 31, 11:44 pm, "Ali" wrote:
I have also been toying with the idea of finding a way to attach the camera to the car on a boom for motion shots without the speed, but am scratching my head on this one at the moment. Well... this is how the magazine photographer did the action shots when they featured my Mustang... The guy had a Chevy station wagon! Was like the perfect vehicle for it! We then recruited my boss to drive the station wagon while the photographer laid down on the tail gate of the station wagon! He got some great shots this way! So you might want to consider a 3 person... He said that the 17-40L was his bread and butter lens... I finally picked one up a couple weeks ago.. It's the middle of winter here in Michigan so I the only cars I've been able to shot were at the Detroit Auto Show... I was very happy with the results! |
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On Feb 1, 6:04*am, "John S." wrote:
On Jan 31, 11:44 pm, "Ali" wrote: I have also been toying with the idea of finding a way to attach the camera to the car on a boom for motion shots without the speed, but am scratching my head on this one at the moment. Well... this is how the magazine photographer did the action shots when they featured my Mustang... The guy had a *Chevy station wagon! Was like the perfect vehicle for it! *We then recruited my boss to drive the station wagon while the photographer laid down *on the tail gate of the station wagon! He got some great shots this way! So you might want to consider a 3 person... He said that the 17-40L was his bread and butter lens... *I finally picked one up a couple weeks ago.. It's the middle of winter here in Michigan so I the only cars I've been able to shot were at the Detroit Auto Show... I was very happy with the results! Hi John - If you don't mind me asking, what mag and who was the photog? And most importantly, what kind of 'Stang do you have :-)? My brother (Tom Shaw) covers the Pure Stock Drags every year. J |
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On Jan 31, 5:44*pm, "Ali" wrote:
As for Jay Martins post,...(snip) Hi Ali - I'm happy to have helped! After reading your second post, I get the impression that you are not in the U.S. (your "tyres" versus my "tires":-) So I'm guessing you may never have heard of any of the mags I mentioned. And maybe I haven't been totally honest either...most of the work I had in those magazines was done quite a few years ago, when I was still shooting film. I dropped out of the scene when Art Directors started expecting digital submissions, I decided to wait a few years until digital resolution came up and digital prices came down. I just picked up a killer dSLR in October and am ready to get back in the game. BTW, Jay Martin is not my real name, it is a play on my first initial and middle name. That's why I always sign off with just a... J |
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