Diff Nikon and Canon Lens System

"Timmo" wrote:
"nospam" wrote:
With Canon there is usually a lens to suit your needs
in their range. With
Nikon, this isn't always the case.

nonsense.

Care to elaborate?

*You* need to elaborate, troll. What you said is indeed
nonsense, and you cannot provide detail to support it.

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On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 11:32:56 -0700, nospam wrote:

In article , Timmo
wrote:

With Canon there is usually a lens to suit your needs in their range.
With
Nikon, this isn't always the case.

nonsense.

Care to elaborate?

canon has no equivalent to nikon's 14-24mm. in fact, this lens was one
of the lenses that motivated someone to design an adapter that converts
the electrical protocol so that it could be used on canon cameras like
any other canon lens.

While that is true the lens has one major downfall for me and that is you
cannot use filters with that lens.


nikon also has a wider selection of kit lenses, including the 18-70,
18-105vr and 18-135, which canon doesn't have.

But doesn't Canon have an 18-200, 18-55, and a 24-105. I hear that the
Nikkor 18-135 is crap.



there is also the 10.5mm fisheye and 105mm vr macro. canon has a 100mm
macro but it lacks stabilization. both nikon and canon have a 60mm
macro but the nikon 60mm macro is full frame while canon's is ef-s.

until recently, nikon had an 18-200mm vr and canon didn't. sigma
capitalized on that and introduced their own (and not very good)
18-200os, which sold to a *lot* of canon users.

also, nearly all of nikon's older manual focus lenses work just fine,
whereas canon manual focus lenses are orphaned. one of the more
esoteric ones that nobody else has (or had) is the 6mm fisheye (220
degree angle of view):

Who cares about that. If you are going to spend the money for a modern
camera who wants to manual focus or for that matter manual meter.

http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography...ses/images/6mm
fish.jpg

basically, canon and nikon are fairly close. either one is a good choice.

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In message , measekite
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It's all irrelevant. God uses a Nikon and all Canon users are going to
Hell. Mary uses an Olympus as it's a girls camera.

One does not know if in actuality there is a God

He told me so.

or if the entity is just
a belief existing in the believer's mind.

Therefore that entity would use what the believer likes.

:-)

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In message , Peter Parry
writes
On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 18:44:10 +0100, "Timmo" wrote:


Care to elaborate?

Its really quite simple. Nikon lenses appeal to Nikon enthusiasts who
consider them to be better than Canon lenses.

Canon lenses appeal to Canon enthusiasts who consider them to be
better than Nikon lenses.

The lenses themselves and their relative qualities are supremely
unimportant.

Realist !!! :-)
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measekite wrote:


You guys should try an instant messenger

They would but it's so difficult to choose which one to use. I suppose
they could try all of them and see which one is the best, but how do you
judge the best. Would it be the fastest, the one with most users....
Maybe there's a ng where they could get some help.
Dave Cohen

In article , measekite
wrote:

canon has no equivalent to nikon's 14-24mm. in fact, this lens was one
of the lenses that motivated someone to design an adapter that converts
the electrical protocol so that it could be used on canon cameras like
any other canon lens.

While that is true the lens has one major downfall for me and that is you
cannot use filters with that lens.

that is true, but it's a *very* good lens and one which canon does not
have. i've also seen a kludgey hood for it. what filters were you
thinking of using? a polarizer would produce ugly artifacts.

nikon also has a wider selection of kit lenses, including the 18-70,
18-105vr and 18-135, which canon doesn't have.

But doesn't Canon have an 18-200, 18-55, and a 24-105. I hear that the
Nikkor 18-135 is crap.

canon does have an 18-200is now, but they didn't for quite a while and
lost a lot of sales to nikon because of that. sigma jumped on the
opportunity to make one because they knew canon users wanted one.

both canon and nikon have 18-55 and 55-200 lenses, which is why i
didn't list those. canon has a 24-105, an example of where canon has a
lens that nikon doesn't. however, nikon has an 18-105vr which has a
wider range but it's a dx lens. nikon has a 28-105 full frame lens but
it lacks stabilization. it all depends what they'll be used for. canon
also has a 28-300mm l is (the full frame equivalent of an 18-200 vr/is)
and nikon doesn't have an equivalent of that either.

nikon has a 200-400mm vr, a *very* good lens with a constant f/4
aperture and one of the best lenses nikon makes. the closest is
canon's 100-400mm is, but that's an f/4.5-5.6 and i've heard mixed
reports as to its quality. it's also a push/pull lens which some
people don't like as much as a ring control. the canon lens is a close
match to nikon's 80-400mm vr.

and nikon/canon don't have everything either. pentax has a series of
fixed focal length lenses that they call limited. they are very
compact and very good.

http://gallery.photo.net/photo/7025593-lg.jpg

also, nearly all of nikon's older manual focus lenses work just fine,
whereas canon manual focus lenses are orphaned. one of the more
esoteric ones that nobody else has (or had) is the 6mm fisheye (220
degree angle of view):

Who cares about that. If you are going to spend the money for a modern
camera who wants to manual focus or for that matter manual meter.

the question was whether nikon had lenses canon doesn't, not whether
someone is interested in manual focus lenses. they can sometimes be
found for very little money and for some types of photography autofocus
is not always used, such as macro or panorama, so why pay for it.

if you absolutely *must* have a specific lens, then your decision as to
which brand is made. however, for most people, they can't go wrong
with nikon or canon. although the selection with the other brands are
not quite as extensive, it's still usually more than adequate for most
people.

On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 21:10:49 +0100, Chris H wrote:

In message , measekite
writes
It's all irrelevant. God uses a Nikon and all Canon users are going to
Hell. Mary uses an Olympus as it's a girls camera.

One does not know if in actuality there is a God

He told me so.

Then for you he exists

or if the entity is just
a belief existing in the believer's mind.

Therefore that entity would use what the believer likes.

:-)

"measekite" wrote in message
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On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 10:47:11 -0700, Savageduck wrote:

On 2009-04-15 10:37:16 -0700, measekite said:

On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 01:34:49 -0700, Savageduck wrote:

On 2009-04-15 01:08:25 -0700, Chris H said:

In message , Ray Fischer
writes
measekite wrote:
Basically what is the primary differences between the Nikon and
Canon Lens
Line?

One works best with Nikon cameras and the other works best with Canon
cameras.

OK... So which works better with Canon and which with Nikon?

It doesn't matter. Mease hasn't quite figured out which DSLR he is
going to buy yet.

I have decided to wait for the D90 replacement. I want a 3"
articulating
lcd and after the D5000 I think it will be coming.

I wouldn't have expected anything else of you.

When you want to fork over you money than you get a chance to run your
mouth. With my money I make my decisions based on my needs and desires.

then why waste our time now, after all your now running YOUR mouth on our
time and money.
I have a friend just like you, he is always waiting for the next big
improvement in technology before he spends his money, but guess what, every
time he thinks that he has found what he wants, there are rumors of
something "Bigger and better" in the wings so he waits again. so far the
rest of us have leapt ahead of him by several generations and he is still
stuck with with his 10 year old technology. Jump into the pool or get off
the diving board!!

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On 2009-04-15 17:00:49 -0700, "Atheist Chaplain" said:

"measekite" wrote in message
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On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 10:47:11 -0700, Savageduck wrote:

On 2009-04-15 10:37:16 -0700, measekite said:

On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 01:34:49 -0700, Savageduck wrote:

On 2009-04-15 01:08:25 -0700, Chris H said:

In message , Ray Fischer
writes
measekite wrote:
Basically what is the primary differences between the Nikon and Canon Lens
Line?

One works best with Nikon cameras and the other works best with Canon
cameras.

OK... So which works better with Canon and which with Nikon?

It doesn't matter. Mease hasn't quite figured out which DSLR he is
going to buy yet.

I have decided to wait for the D90 replacement. I want a 3" articulating
lcd and after the D5000 I think it will be coming.

I wouldn't have expected anything else of you.

When you want to fork over you money than you get a chance to run your
mouth. With my money I make my decisions based on my needs and desires.

then why waste our time now, after all your now running YOUR mouth on
our time and money.
I have a friend just like you, he is always waiting for the next big
improvement in technology before he spends his money, but guess what,
every time he thinks that he has found what he wants, there are rumors
of something "Bigger and better" in the wings so he waits again. so far
the rest of us have leapt ahead of him by several generations and he is
still stuck with with his 10 year old technology. Jump into the pool or
get off the diving board!!

....and there it is. A perfect assessment and analogy of Mease and his behavior.

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