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Where to get real (i.e. non-digital) color prints?
I wonder if anyone knows any place, preferably in the SF Bay Area, that still
makes actual projection color prints from negatives instead of the digital prints from Fuji Frontier machines. (If not a local place, then maybe one that does mail-order work.) I've been fairly happy with the digital prints (4x6) I've been getting until now, but lately have started to see things in them I definitely don't like: telltale digital artifacts that don't look very good on close examination. I'd like to get at least a couple of "real" prints made from the same negatives for comparison. And of course, the printer would have to make decent prints, in focus, correctly exposed, etc. -- I was quickly apprised that an "RSS feed" was not, as I had naively imagined, some new and unspeakable form of sexual debauchery practised by young persons of dubious morality, but a way of providing news articles to the cybernetic publishing moguls of the World Wide Wait so they can fill the airwaves with even more useless drivel. - Cynical shop talk from comp.publish.prepress |
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Where to get real (i.e. non-digital) color prints?
David Nebenzahl writes:
I wonder if anyone knows any place, preferably in the SF Bay Area, that still makes actual projection color prints from negatives instead of the digital prints from Fuji Frontier machines. Most labs I've seen lately don't do optical enlargements except for extremely high prices with long delays, and sometimes not even then. Digital prints are fine as long as the right system is used in the right way with appropriately-prepared digital images. I've been fairly happy with the digital prints (4x6) I've been getting until now, but lately have started to see things in them I definitely don't like: telltale digital artifacts that don't look very good on close examination. What sorts of artifacts? I'd like to get at least a couple of "real" prints made from the same negatives for comparison. And of course, the printer would have to make decent prints, in focus, correctly exposed, etc. There's the rub: it's extremely difficult to do everything right in optical enlargement, and it's also impossible to print digitally-corrected images. Even if you dodge and burn just right on a print, you have to do it all over again for the next one. -- Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly. |
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Where to get real (i.e. non-digital) color prints?
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Mxsmanic wrote: There's the rub: it's extremely difficult to do everything right in optical enlargement, and it's also impossible to print digitally-corrected images. Even if you dodge and burn just right on a print, you have to do it all over again for the next one. Have you ever made an optical print? Some don't require burning or dodging which basically makes the point null and void. I've made 1,000's if not 10,000's of prints once you have the burning and dodging down its easy for a given print provided we are talking about simple density differences, like the sky being burned in. I know of several labs here in Baltimore that make optical prints and computer imaged ones,.... side by side. They use the same 52" RA processor and chemistry for both, the one lab where I deal primarily has the same three day turnaround for both types of prints. -- LF website http://members.bellatlantic.net/~gblank For best results expand this window at least 6" at 1152 x 768 resolution |
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Where to get real (i.e. non-digital) color prints?
On Mon, 03 May 2004 05:26:22 +0200, Mxsmanic
wrote: Even if you dodge and burn just right on a print, you have to do it all over again for the next one. Then I'd suggest a couple of remedies : A) A digital mask B) Better metering. Regards, John S. Douglas, Photographer - http://www.darkroompro.com Please remove the "_" when replying via email |
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Where to get real (i.e. non-digital) color prints? answer tomy own question
On 5/2/2004 7:13 PM David Nebenzahl spake thus:
I wonder if anyone knows any place, preferably in the SF Bay Area, that still makes actual projection color prints from negatives instead of the digital prints from Fuji Frontier machines. (If not a local place, then maybe one that does mail-order work.) Well, I found a place today; stopped in my favorite photo store (Looking Glass Photo in Berkeley), where they told me I can have Fuji projection prints made for about $10 for 24 4x6 prints. I'm going to give it a try and compare the results to the digitally-made prints. Apparently, this is not a difficult thing to find, so it's a little surprising that nobody came up with any suggestions here. Or maybe not, as this is Usenet ... -- I was quickly apprised that an "RSS feed" was not, as I had naively imagined, some new and unspeakable form of sexual debauchery practised by young persons of dubious morality, but a way of providing news articles to the cybernetic publishing moguls of the World Wide Wait so they can fill the airwaves with even more useless drivel. - Cynical shop talk from comp.publish.prepress |
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Where to get real (i.e. non-digital) color prints? answer to my own question
David Nebenzahl wrote:
Apparently, this is not a difficult thing to find, so it's a little surprising that nobody came up with any suggestions here. Or maybe not, as this is Usenet ... Being a darkroom group I'd wager we tend to print our own. I do. Nick |
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Where to get real (i.e. non-digital) color prints? answer to my own question
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Nick Zentena wrote: Being a darkroom group I'd wager we tend to print our own. I do. Nick I was gonna tell David to send them to me, but I normally charge 16.50 for eight by tens, and also figured it would appear I was soliciting. -- For best results expand this window at least 6" at 1152 x 768 resolution |
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Where to get real (i.e. non-digital) color prints? answer to my own question
I am paying 11 euro for processing a whole roll of 36 exp.@10X15cm
(*not*inches, be careful)and of course you get an album and a film for free.AFAIK, they still use a traditional RA-4 process. -- Dimitris Tzortzakakis,Iraklion Crete,Greece Analogue technology rules-digital sucks http://www.patriko-kreta.com dimtzort AT otenet DOT gr the return adress is corrupted ? "David Nebenzahl" ?????? ??? ?????? ... On 5/2/2004 7:13 PM David Nebenzahl spake thus: I wonder if anyone knows any place, preferably in the SF Bay Area, that still makes actual projection color prints from negatives instead of the digital prints from Fuji Frontier machines. (If not a local place, then maybe one that does mail-order work.) Well, I found a place today; stopped in my favorite photo store (Looking Glass Photo in Berkeley), where they told me I can have Fuji projection prints made for about $10 for 24 4x6 prints. I'm going to give it a try and compare the results to the digitally-made prints. Apparently, this is not a difficult thing to find, so it's a little surprising that nobody came up with any suggestions here. Or maybe not, as this is Usenet ... -- I was quickly apprised that an "RSS feed" was not, as I had naively imagined, some new and unspeakable form of sexual debauchery practised by young persons of dubious morality, but a way of providing news articles to the cybernetic publishing moguls of the World Wide Wait so they can fill the airwaves with even more useless drivel. - Cynical shop talk from comp.publish.prepress |
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Where to get real (i.e. non-digital) color prints? answer tomy own question
On 5/13/2004 11:22 PM Tzortzakakis Dimitrios spake thus:
I am paying 11 euro for processing a whole roll of 36 exp.@10X15cm (*not*inches, be careful)and of course you get an album and a film for free.AFAIK, they still use a traditional RA-4 process. It may be RA-4, but are you sure it's optical and not digital? The minilabs everyone uses around here use "traditional" wet processing, but the prints are made digitally (via laser) from scanned negatives. -- I was quickly apprised that an "RSS feed" was not, as I had naively imagined, some new and unspeakable form of sexual debauchery practised by young persons of dubious morality, but a way of providing news articles to the cybernetic publishing moguls of the World Wide Wait so they can fill the airwaves with even more useless drivel. - Cynical shop talk from comp.publish.prepress |
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