Insanely over-sharpened images problem

The finished product in CS2 looks fine, yet when published, the
image(s) tend to look like this:

http://www.pbase.com/sirchandestroy/image/64425933

Workflow:

1) NEF tweaks in RSP
2) 16 Bit TIFF in CS2
3) color/curve/saturation/xxxxx filters/whatever
4) sharpening - generally the generic filter-sharpen option (as in
this case); sometimes smart sharpen, sometimes unsharp mask

Anyway, in CS2 they look fine; when published as 800x600 8 bit JPEGs,
they look horrible. The only thing I'm doing different with the D2X
than I do with the D70S is trying out Adobe RGB II...I never had the
problem processing images from the D70S...

Thx,

B

Unclear if you are trying to get people to look at your pix or asking for
advice.
In CS2 learn to use the smart sharpen tool for the final use intended for
the image.
If the intent is to publish to the web ever hear of Adobe Image Ready?

"bmoag" wrote in message
.. .
Unclear if you are trying to get people to look at your pix or asking for
advice.
In CS2 learn to use the smart sharpen tool for the final use intended for
the image.
If the intent is to publish to the web ever hear of Adobe Image Ready?

Yes, what settings are you using?

wrote:

The finished product in CS2 looks fine, yet when published, the
image(s) tend to look like this:

http://www.pbase.com/sirchandestroy/image/64425933

Workflow:

1) NEF tweaks in RSP
2) 16 Bit TIFF in CS2
3) color/curve/saturation/xxxxx filters/whatever
4) sharpening - generally the generic filter-sharpen option (as in
this case); sometimes smart sharpen, sometimes unsharp mask

Anyway, in CS2 they look fine; when published as 800x600 8 bit JPEGs,
they look horrible.

You left out when you sharpen and when you downsample (and what you use to
downsample..) etc from your description of your workflow. Also do you
change the color space to sRGB for the web?

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Stacey

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The finished product in CS2 looks fine, yet when published, the
image(s) tend to look like this:

http://www.pbase.com/sirchandestroy/image/64425933

Workflow:

1) NEF tweaks in RSP
2) 16 Bit TIFF in CS2
3) color/curve/saturation/xxxxx filters/whatever
4) sharpening - generally the generic filter-sharpen option (as in
this case); sometimes smart sharpen, sometimes unsharp mask

Anyway, in CS2 they look fine; when published as 800x600 8 bit JPEGs,
they look horrible. The only thing I'm doing different with the D2X
than I do with the D70S is trying out Adobe RGB II...I never had the
problem processing images from the D70S...

Thx,

B

Hi.

Have you tried any of the other ways of sharpening.

Copy layer, apply High Pass Filter at radius 10, then Soft Light or Hard
Light Layer Blending, and vary layer opacity until you get the degree of
sharpening you want. Click copy layer Eyeball on or off to preview the
result.

By masking the copy layer you can apply the sharpening to sections of the
image.

Roy G

wrote:
The finished product in CS2 looks fine, yet when published, the
image(s) tend to look like this:

http://www.pbase.com/sirchandestroy/image/64425933

Workflow:

1) NEF tweaks in RSP
2) 16 Bit TIFF in CS2
3) color/curve/saturation/xxxxx filters/whatever
4) sharpening - generally the generic filter-sharpen option (as in
this case); sometimes smart sharpen, sometimes unsharp mask

Anyway, in CS2 they look fine; when published as 800x600 8 bit JPEGs,
they look horrible. The only thing I'm doing different with the D2X
than I do with the D70S is trying out Adobe RGB II...I never had the
problem processing images from the D70S...

Thx,

B

1) Use Smart Sharpen, I use a radius of 1 and from 80 to 100. I'm sure
there are others that use different settings.
2) Use Unsharp Mask, haven't used this in a while so others will have
to give you the settings.
3) Nik Sharpener (my favorite until Smart Sharpen)
As others have said two things you didn't mention.
1) reduction to web size
2) changing color space to Srgb for the web
Sharpening should be your last function.

Tom

On 7/31/06 11:15 PM, in article
, "
wrote:

The finished product in CS2 looks fine, yet when published, the
image(s) tend to look like this:

http://www.pbase.com/sirchandestroy/image/64425933

Workflow:

1) NEF tweaks in RSP
2) 16 Bit TIFF in CS2
3) color/curve/saturation/xxxxx filters/whatever
4) sharpening - generally the generic filter-sharpen option (as in
this case); sometimes smart sharpen, sometimes unsharp mask

Anyway, in CS2 they look fine; when published as 800x600 8 bit JPEGs,
they look horrible. The only thing I'm doing different with the D2X
than I do with the D70S is trying out Adobe RGB II...I never had the
problem processing images from the D70S...

Thx,

B

You don't say when you down sample to 800x600, but it sounds like you are
sharpening at some high resolution before down sampling. You should sharpen
after resizing to the resolution at which you will publish but before
converting to JPEG.

Chuck

kombi45@
The finished product in CS2 looks fine, yet when published, the
image(s) tend to look like this:

http://www.pbase.com/sirchandestroy/image/64425933

Workflow:

1) NEF tweaks in RSP
2) 16 Bit TIFF in CS2
3) color/curve/saturation/xxxxx filters/whatever
4) sharpening - generally the generic filter-sharpen option (as in
this case); sometimes smart sharpen, sometimes unsharp mask

Anyway, in CS2 they look fine; when published as 800x600 8 bit JPEGs,
they look horrible. The only thing I'm doing different with the D2X
than I do with the D70S is trying out Adobe RGB II...I never had the
problem processing images from the D70S...

Thx,

B

Your problem most likely you sharpen too early in the workflow.
Only add sharpening the the final adjusted and resized image ;o)-max-

Stacey wrote:
wrote:

The finished product in CS2 looks fine, yet when published, the
image(s) tend to look like this:

http://www.pbase.com/sirchandestroy/image/64425933

Workflow:

1) NEF tweaks in RSP
2) 16 Bit TIFF in CS2
3) color/curve/saturation/xxxxx filters/whatever
4) sharpening - generally the generic filter-sharpen option (as in
this case); sometimes smart sharpen, sometimes unsharp mask

Anyway, in CS2 they look fine; when published as 800x600 8 bit JPEGs,
they look horrible.

You left out when you sharpen and when you downsample (and what you use to
downsample..) etc from your description of your workflow. Also do you
change the color space to sRGB for the web?

First off, thanks to everyone who replied - I will try out your
suggestions. To answer your specific question, no, I haven't been
changing the color space to sRGB for uploading. And now that you
mention it, I think I have been sharpening prior to downsampling the
images.

Thx,

Ben

Roy G wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
The finished product in CS2 looks fine, yet when published, the
image(s) tend to look like this:

http://www.pbase.com/sirchandestroy/image/64425933

Workflow:

1) NEF tweaks in RSP
2) 16 Bit TIFF in CS2
3) color/curve/saturation/xxxxx filters/whatever
4) sharpening - generally the generic filter-sharpen option (as in
this case); sometimes smart sharpen, sometimes unsharp mask

Anyway, in CS2 they look fine; when published as 800x600 8 bit JPEGs,
they look horrible. The only thing I'm doing different with the D2X
than I do with the D70S is trying out Adobe RGB II...I never had the
problem processing images from the D70S...

Thx,

B

Hi.

Have you tried any of the other ways of sharpening.

Copy layer, apply High Pass Filter at radius 10, then Soft Light or Hard
Light Layer Blending, and vary layer opacity until you get the degree of
sharpening you want. Click copy layer Eyeball on or off to preview the
result.

By masking the copy layer you can apply the sharpening to sections of the
image.

Roy G

Fantastic! Thanks, Roy G:

http://www.pbase.com/sirchandestroy/image/64475924

-Ben