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Printing on the back of a print.
In article , Jean-David Beyer wrote:
Mark in Maine wrote: I want to make a calender, by printing the calender grid thing on the back of some RC prints, then spiral binding them together. I have been using Ilford RC paper, but am having a hard time finding something that will print on the back - if I use an inkjet (Epson 1280) - the ink does not seem to dry, and is very susecptible to water. I also have a laser printer, which is better, but I get a ghost image, about an inch away from the original image. Has anybody done this before - any comments, suggestions, etc? Mark Why not just print out your calendar pages on a separate sheet of laser paper, and then with spray glue, glue this to the back of the RC print? THen you can trim the edges to cut off any misaligned overhang. I do this all the time to make photo cards. |
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Printing on the back of a print.
"David Nebenzahl" wrote in message ... On 1/31/2004 4:34 PM Mark in Maine spake thus: I want to make a calender, by printing the calender grid thing on the back of some RC prints, then spiral binding them together. I have been using Ilford RC paper, but am having a hard time finding something that will print on the back - if I use an inkjet (Epson 1280) - the ink does not seem to dry, and is very susecptible to water. I also have a laser printer, which is better, but I get a ghost image, about an inch away from the original image. Has anybody done this before - any comments, suggestions, etc? First of all, sorry, I haven't done this myself. But I'm curious why you're getting a ghost image with your laser printer. Is this perhaps just your printer? I've printed paper about the thickness of RC paper in a laser printer before without this problem, though nothing with a surface like RC. The ghost image is _probably_ because the fusing roller is not completely fusing the toner to the paper. The photo paper is thicker than regular (common copier) paper and the roller does not provide sufficient heat to completely fuse. Or the surface of the paper is not accepting all of the toner. Some of the toner is staying on the fusing roller and being fused on the next revolution. (the diameter of the roller is equal to the distance between the two images divided by pi?) Do you have the same problem if you use heavy card stock? How about doing a test by taking a few sheets of RC to a copy shop and seeing if they'll run them through their copier (basically the same process as a laser printer)? As long as you can convince them the sheets won't ruin their equipment, they should do it. (Keep in mind that laser printers and copiers are fine with plastic sheets, like transparency film or laminating sheets.) The output of a copier uses heat, and could damage the photo, and possibly the fusing roller. A commercial copier will probably have a hotter roller than a small home office type copier. I have tried using my copier (a small Canon, about the size of a briefcase) to put a copyright message on the back of color photos (on Kodak Endura paper). It works, but... (a) set the copier exposure light to limit the amount of toner, (b) the photos will come out curled and need to go under some weight for some time, (c) the one-of-a-kind photo is the one that will jam/scratch/melt! The best thing I've found for writing on photos is a waterproof marker, such as a Sharpie brand; but I don't think you want to free-hand write the calendar pages on each photo! Ken Hart |
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Printing on the back of a print.
Gary Beasley wrote: On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 00:34:58 GMT, Mark in Maine wrote: I want to make a calender, by printing the calender grid thing on the back of some RC prints, then spiral binding them together. I have been using Ilford RC paper, but am having a hard time finding something that will print on the back - if I use an inkjet (Epson 1280) - the ink does not seem to dry, and is very susecptible to water. I also have a laser printer, which is better, but I get a ghost image, about an inch away from the original image. Has anybody done this before - any comments, suggestions, etc? Mark If it all has to be on photo paper you might try something like 11x14 creased and folded to 11x7 with the image on one side and the calendar grid on the other. Folded sheets will bind as well as single sheets. If flatness is a problem you might want to use adhesive of some kind inside the folded sheet. FWIW Epson makes a double sided paper that you could use for better effect. An "old fashioned" dot matrix printer will probably work. They can still be had. Epson LQ series and Panasonic equivalents do a pretty good job on text, charts, etc. and will work from any word processing program. |
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Printing on the back of a print.
On 2/1/2004 11:24 AM Patrick Gainer spake thus:
Gary Beasley wrote: On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 00:34:58 GMT, Mark in Maine wrote: I want to make a calender, by printing the calender grid thing on the back of some RC prints, then spiral binding them together. I have been using Ilford RC paper, but am having a hard time finding something that will print on the back - if I use an inkjet (Epson 1280) - the ink does not seem to dry, and is very susecptible to water. I also have a laser printer, which is better, but I get a ghost image, about an inch away from the original image. Has anybody done this before - any comments, suggestions, etc? If it all has to be on photo paper you might try something like 11x14 creased and folded to 11x7 with the image on one side and the calendar grid on the other. Folded sheets will bind as well as single sheets. If flatness is a problem you might want to use adhesive of some kind inside the folded sheet. FWIW Epson makes a double sided paper that you could use for better effect. An "old fashioned" dot matrix printer will probably work. They can still be had. Epson LQ series and Panasonic equivalents do a pretty good job on text, charts, etc. and will work from any word processing program. Sorry, no. I'm usually an advocate of extremely low-tech solutions, but this one will create "graphics" that look like the invoice you get from your auto mechanic. -- It's stupid, moronic and too fcuking obvious, as obvious as counting your fingers, so TELL ME SOMETHING I DON'T KNOW or just shut the fcuk up. - "jjs" in extremis on rec.photo.darkroom |
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Printing on the back of a print.
On 1/31/2004 4:34 PM Mark in Maine spake thus:
I want to make a calender, by printing the calender grid thing on the back of some RC prints, then spiral binding them together. I have been using Ilford RC paper, but am having a hard time finding something that will print on the back - if I use an inkjet (Epson 1280) - the ink does not seem to dry, and is very susecptible to water. I also have a laser printer, which is better, but I get a ghost image, about an inch away from the original image. Has anybody done this before - any comments, suggestions, etc? Here's an idea: how about using an Alps printer? They're "out of print" but still available on eBay. Anyone had experience with these? I think they'll print on practically anything. -- It's stupid, moronic and too fcuking obvious, as obvious as counting your fingers, so TELL ME SOMETHING I DON'T KNOW or just shut the fcuk up. - "jjs" in extremis on rec.photo.darkroom |
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Printing on the back of a print.
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David Nebenzahl wrote: Here's an idea: how about using an Alps printer? They're "out of print" but still available on eBay. Anyone had experience with these? I think they'll print on practically anything. Actually I have; Omega Satter at one point considered marketing them for Alps. Their people came in and even demo'd the units to the president, myself and another CS rep. They really had some cool features like they could print "gold foil" using a special ribbon. They used some kind of wax cartridges which each contained a seperate color. This was pre Epson micro Piezo 6 ink printers, the prints looked like photos and were supposedly fade resistant for 100 years? B&H carried them for a while but the Alps people didn't like the arrangement because the printers needed alot of customer service support,..... for some users. They were complex beyond the abilities of the average sales person. -- LF website http://members.bellatlantic.net/~gblank |
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Printing on the back of a print.
David Nebenzahl wrote: On 2/1/2004 11:24 AM Patrick Gainer spake thus: Gary Beasley wrote: On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 00:34:58 GMT, Mark in Maine wrote: I want to make a calender, by printing the calender grid thing on the back of some RC prints, then spiral binding them together. I have been using Ilford RC paper, but am having a hard time finding something that will print on the back - if I use an inkjet (Epson 1280) - the ink does not seem to dry, and is very susecptible to water. I also have a laser printer, which is better, but I get a ghost image, about an inch away from the original image. Has anybody done this before - any comments, suggestions, etc? If it all has to be on photo paper you might try something like 11x14 creased and folded to 11x7 with the image on one side and the calendar grid on the other. Folded sheets will bind as well as single sheets. If flatness is a problem you might want to use adhesive of some kind inside the folded sheet. FWIW Epson makes a double sided paper that you could use for better effect. An "old fashioned" dot matrix printer will probably work. They can still be had. Epson LQ series and Panasonic equivalents do a pretty good job on text, charts, etc. and will work from any word processing program. Sorry, no. I'm usually an advocate of extremely low-tech solutions, but this one will create "graphics" that look like the invoice you get from your auto mechanic. -- It's stupid, moronic and too fcuking obvious, as obvious as counting your fingers, so TELL ME SOMETHING I DON'T KNOW or just shut the fcuk up. - "jjs" in extremis on rec.photo.darkroom Not the one I had. On such things as text and charts. it did very well, but very slowly. This was a 24 pin LQ 1070. |
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Printing on the back of a print.
Laser printing not a good choice the heat from the drum can damage RC
papers. My Epson C80 uses a different type of ink, pigment rather than dye based, if I let the prints dry overnight the ink will usually stay put on the back of RC prints. Or use FB paper instead of RC. Or make digital prints on a double-sided paper rather than making prints in the darkroom. Or mount the prints on preprinted calendars. Or mount the prints back to back with calendar pages that could also be printed in the darkroom and take the stack to Kinko's for binding. -- darkroommike ---------- "Mark in Maine" wrote in message ... I want to make a calender, by printing the calender grid thing on the back of some RC prints, then spiral binding them together. I have been using Ilford RC paper, but am having a hard time finding something that will print on the back - if I use an inkjet (Epson 1280) - the ink does not seem to dry, and is very susecptible to water. I also have a laser printer, which is better, but I get a ghost image, about an inch away from the original image. Has anybody done this before - any comments, suggestions, etc? Mark |
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