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Old September 9th 04, 06:37 AM
Guy Macon
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Be aware that there is an effort by Alan Browne and several others of
this newsgroup to create four new rec.photo** newsgroups. Creation of
these groups will kill this group. Worst of all, the charter of this NG
will not be affected if any of these new groups are passed, which means
that this group will abandoned by the talented folks. Alan Browne is on
record for wanting a charter change for this newsgroup. Russ Allmighty
of news.groups declared that charter amendments are not possible, so
this is Alan and his gang's way of creating a safety zone for the
elite. Please do not fall for this line of subterfuge. It is a crock.
Guy Macon

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Old September 9th 04, 10:21 AM
Rick
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"Guy Macon" wrote in message ...
Be aware that there is an effort by Alan Browne and several others of
this newsgroup to create four new rec.photo** newsgroups. Creation of
these groups will kill this group. Worst of all, the charter of this NG
will not be affected if any of these new groups are passed, which means
that this group will abandoned by the talented folks. Alan Browne is on
record for wanting a charter change for this newsgroup. Russ Allmighty
of news.groups declared that charter amendments are not possible, so
this is Alan and his gang's way of creating a safety zone for the
elite. Please do not fall for this line of subterfuge. It is a crock.
Guy Macon


Charter amendments are not recognized by Usenet admins
and never have been -- for very good reasons.

And as for new groups "killing" this one, now *that's* a
crock. E.g. the second largest ISP in the world (Earthlink)
hasn't added *any* new groups since January, and isn't
planning to do so in the foreseeable future.

Rick


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Old September 9th 04, 10:21 AM
Rick
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"Guy Macon" wrote in message ...
Be aware that there is an effort by Alan Browne and several others of
this newsgroup to create four new rec.photo** newsgroups. Creation of
these groups will kill this group. Worst of all, the charter of this NG
will not be affected if any of these new groups are passed, which means
that this group will abandoned by the talented folks. Alan Browne is on
record for wanting a charter change for this newsgroup. Russ Allmighty
of news.groups declared that charter amendments are not possible, so
this is Alan and his gang's way of creating a safety zone for the
elite. Please do not fall for this line of subterfuge. It is a crock.
Guy Macon


Charter amendments are not recognized by Usenet admins
and never have been -- for very good reasons.

And as for new groups "killing" this one, now *that's* a
crock. E.g. the second largest ISP in the world (Earthlink)
hasn't added *any* new groups since January, and isn't
planning to do so in the foreseeable future.

Rick


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Old September 9th 04, 02:13 PM
Steve Young
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"Rick" wrote in message
...
"Guy Macon" wrote in message
...
Be aware that there is an effort by Alan Browne and several others of
this newsgroup to create four new rec.photo** newsgroups. Creation of
these groups will kill this group. Worst of all, the charter of this NG
will not be affected if any of these new groups are passed, which means
that this group will abandoned by the talented folks. Alan Browne is on
record for wanting a charter change for this newsgroup. Russ Allmighty
of news.groups declared that charter amendments are not possible, so
this is Alan and his gang's way of creating a safety zone for the
elite. Please do not fall for this line of subterfuge. It is a crock.
Guy Macon


Charter amendments are not recognized by Usenet admins
and never have been -- for very good reasons.


Would you happen to know a couple of those "good reasons" off hand?

And as for new groups "killing" this one, now *that's* a
crock. E.g. the second largest ISP in the world (Earthlink)
hasn't added *any* new groups since January, and isn't
planning to do so in the foreseeable future.


For good reason as well, I take it?
That'd mean Earthlink folks would never see the new groups? The
appearance to an Earthlink reader would be the authors ran and hid from
them. So it would probably be best if everything was crossposted ?


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Old September 9th 04, 02:13 PM
Steve Young
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"Rick" wrote in message
...
"Guy Macon" wrote in message
...
Be aware that there is an effort by Alan Browne and several others of
this newsgroup to create four new rec.photo** newsgroups. Creation of
these groups will kill this group. Worst of all, the charter of this NG
will not be affected if any of these new groups are passed, which means
that this group will abandoned by the talented folks. Alan Browne is on
record for wanting a charter change for this newsgroup. Russ Allmighty
of news.groups declared that charter amendments are not possible, so
this is Alan and his gang's way of creating a safety zone for the
elite. Please do not fall for this line of subterfuge. It is a crock.
Guy Macon


Charter amendments are not recognized by Usenet admins
and never have been -- for very good reasons.


Would you happen to know a couple of those "good reasons" off hand?

And as for new groups "killing" this one, now *that's* a
crock. E.g. the second largest ISP in the world (Earthlink)
hasn't added *any* new groups since January, and isn't
planning to do so in the foreseeable future.


For good reason as well, I take it?
That'd mean Earthlink folks would never see the new groups? The
appearance to an Earthlink reader would be the authors ran and hid from
them. So it would probably be best if everything was crossposted ?


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Old September 9th 04, 03:54 PM
John McWilliams
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Guy Macon wrote:

Be aware that there is an effort by Alan Browne and several others of
this newsgroup to create four new rec.photo** newsgroups. Creation of
these groups will kill this group. Worst of all, the charter of this NG
will not be affected if any of these new groups are passed, which means
that this group will abandoned by the talented folks. Alan Browne is on
record for wanting a charter change for this newsgroup. Russ Allmighty
of news.groups declared that charter amendments are not possible, so
this is Alan and his gang's way of creating a safety zone for the
elite. Please do not fall for this line of subterfuge. It is a crock.
Guy Macon

The above forged post is not by Guy Macon, who is a regular in news.groups.

Others can/will speak to the merits and demerits of the proposal, as
will I, later, but this is someone who is trying to make Steve Young
look irresponsible.

--
John McWilliams
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Old September 9th 04, 03:54 PM
John McWilliams
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Guy Macon wrote:

Be aware that there is an effort by Alan Browne and several others of
this newsgroup to create four new rec.photo** newsgroups. Creation of
these groups will kill this group. Worst of all, the charter of this NG
will not be affected if any of these new groups are passed, which means
that this group will abandoned by the talented folks. Alan Browne is on
record for wanting a charter change for this newsgroup. Russ Allmighty
of news.groups declared that charter amendments are not possible, so
this is Alan and his gang's way of creating a safety zone for the
elite. Please do not fall for this line of subterfuge. It is a crock.
Guy Macon

The above forged post is not by Guy Macon, who is a regular in news.groups.

Others can/will speak to the merits and demerits of the proposal, as
will I, later, but this is someone who is trying to make Steve Young
look irresponsible.

--
John McWilliams
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Old September 9th 04, 03:56 PM
John McWilliams
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Steve Young wrote:

Snipped bits out

Steve-

Maybe you could help out here by noting to others that the top is a forgery.

This regardless of the whole Charter rewrite, etc.

--

John McWilliams
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Old September 9th 04, 03:56 PM
John McWilliams
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Steve Young wrote:

Snipped bits out

Steve-

Maybe you could help out here by noting to others that the top is a forgery.

This regardless of the whole Charter rewrite, etc.

--

John McWilliams
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Old September 9th 04, 05:10 PM
Steve Young
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"John McWilliams" wrote in message
news:Za_%c.156156$Fg5.59725@attbi_s53...
Steve Young wrote:

Snipped bits out

Steve-

Maybe you could help out here by noting to others that the top is a
forgery.


This regardless of the whole Charter rewrite, etc.


Yes John, you're right, the Guy Macon post above is a forgery. I was
responding to Rick's post, which I believe may be genuine. I see him post
occasionally in the different groups I read, but I may be mistaken, as
there's so much of this going around.

Thanks for clarifying the purpose of the forgery in your other post.

This sure has become a confusing mess hasn't it?

Steve Young


 




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