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Old August 6th 09, 06:58 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default New Sony Sensor Technology May Help Solve Problems with P&S Cameras

"http://tinyurl.com/sonyexmor"

This sensor may help solve one of the biggest problems with small sensor
P&S digital cameras, the poor results in low light situations.

No reason they could not extend this to larger D-SLR sensors as well,
though with larger pixels there's less of an advantage to having the
wiring underneath since the wiring represents a much lower proportion of
the total area.

Canon's lead over Nikon in large sensors, while still significant, has
shrunk now that Nikon has managed to come out with a full frame sensor
(though of lower resolution). Now Sony may have some disruptive technology.

Hopefully it works better than the Foveon sensors.
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Old August 6th 09, 10:07 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default New Sony Sensor Technology May Help Solve Problems with P&S Cameras

SMS wrote:
"http://tinyurl.com/sonyexmor"

This sensor may help solve one of the biggest problems with small sensor
P&S digital cameras, the poor results in low light situations.

No reason they could not extend this to larger D-SLR sensors as well,
though with larger pixels there's less of an advantage to having the
wiring underneath since the wiring represents a much lower proportion of
the total area.

Too late to say "no reason they could not..."
"...celebrates the launch of new Cyber-shot, Handycam and ? DSLR models
featuring the Exmor R CMOS sensor"
http://australia.sony.com.au/SonyTwi...the-prize.html

Are the "Exmor R" sensors for still cameras also using the "Clearvid"
RGB array with reduced ratio of B&R to G, or as the name suggests is
"Clearvid" for Exmor R video cameras, and the still cameras have a more
conventional RGBG pattern colour filter?


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Old August 7th 09, 01:28 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default New Sony Sensor Technology May Help Solve Problems with P&S Cameras

In article , SMS
wrote:

Canon's lead over Nikon in large sensors, while still significant, has
shrunk now that Nikon has managed to come out with a full frame sensor
(though of lower resolution). Now Sony may have some disruptive technology.


with the d3 sensor, it is nikon who has the lead over canon, and
nikon's 24 megapixel sensor is not a lower resolution than canon's 21
megapixel sensor.

Hopefully it works better than the Foveon sensors.


can't be any worse.
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Old August 7th 09, 02:14 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default New Sony Sensor Technology May Help Solve Problems with P&S Cameras

nospam wrote:
In article , SMS
wrote:

Canon's lead over Nikon in large sensors, while still significant, has
shrunk now that Nikon has managed to come out with a full frame sensor
(though of lower resolution). Now Sony may have some disruptive technology.


with the d3 sensor, it is nikon who has the lead over canon, and
nikon's 24 megapixel sensor is not a lower resolution than canon's 21
megapixel sensor.

The D3x sensor is way ahead of the Canon 21 mp sensors. The point that
it might not be strictly speaking a "Nikon sensor" - so doesn't count -
smacks of religious delusion or trolling.
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Old August 7th 09, 05:08 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default New Sony Sensor Technology May Help Solve Problems with P&S Cameras

nospam wrote:
SMS


Canon's lead over Nikon in large sensors, while still significant, has
shrunk now that Nikon has managed to come out with a full frame sensor
(though of lower resolution). Now Sony may have some disruptive technology.


with the d3 sensor, it is nikon who has the lead over canon, and


Even if true that's a stupid statement for the simple reason that a
camera is not a sensor. People don't buy or use sensors. They buy
and use cameras.

--
Ray Fischer


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Old August 7th 09, 05:24 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default New Sony Sensor Technology May Help Solve Problems with P&S Cameras

In article , Ray Fischer
wrote:

Canon's lead over Nikon in large sensors, while still significant, has
shrunk now that Nikon has managed to come out with a full frame sensor
(though of lower resolution). Now Sony may have some disruptive technology.


with the d3 sensor, it is nikon who has the lead over canon, and


Even if true that's a stupid statement for the simple reason that a
camera is not a sensor. People don't buy or use sensors. They buy
and use cameras.


but people buy cameras because they have a particular sensor. they'll
pick the d3 or d700 because of its high iso performance. this is most
apparent with the foveon fanatics, who pick a really ****ty camera only
because it has this supposedly magical sensor.
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Old August 7th 09, 06:57 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default New Sony Sensor Technology May Help Solve Problems with P&S Cameras

nospam wrote:
Ray Fischer

Canon's lead over Nikon in large sensors, while still significant, has
shrunk now that Nikon has managed to come out with a full frame sensor
(though of lower resolution). Now Sony may have some disruptive technology.

with the d3 sensor, it is nikon who has the lead over canon, and


Even if true that's a stupid statement for the simple reason that a
camera is not a sensor. People don't buy or use sensors. They buy
and use cameras.


but people buy cameras because they have a particular sensor.


Nonsense. Even among real photographers damn few care about the
sensor. It's the camera that counts.

they'll
pick the d3 or d700 because of its high iso performance.


And not because of the sensor.

this is most
apparent with the foveon fanatics, who pick a really ****ty camera only
because it has this supposedly magical sensor.


"Fanatics" are, by definition, not rational.

--
Ray Fischer


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Old August 7th 09, 07:01 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default New Sony Sensor Technology May Help Solve Problems with P&S Cameras

On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 10:58:09 -0700, SMS
wrote:

"http://tinyurl.com/sonyexmor"

This sensor may help solve one of the biggest problems with small sensor
P&S digital cameras, the poor results in low light situations.

No reason they could not extend this to larger D-SLR sensors as well,
though with larger pixels there's less of an advantage to having the
wiring underneath since the wiring represents a much lower proportion of
the total area.

Canon's lead over Nikon in large sensors, while still significant, has
shrunk now that Nikon has managed to come out with a full frame sensor
(though of lower resolution). Now Sony may have some disruptive technology.

Hopefully it works better than the Foveon sensors.



Twice as sensitive? That's what, one /f stop?
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Old August 7th 09, 07:47 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default New Sony Sensor Technology May Help Solve Problems with P&S Cameras

In article , Ray Fischer
wrote:

nospam wrote:
Ray Fischer

Canon's lead over Nikon in large sensors, while still significant, has
shrunk now that Nikon has managed to come out with a full frame sensor
(though of lower resolution). Now Sony may have some disruptive
technology.

with the d3 sensor, it is nikon who has the lead over canon, and

Even if true that's a stupid statement for the simple reason that a
camera is not a sensor. People don't buy or use sensors. They buy
and use cameras.


but people buy cameras because they have a particular sensor.


Nonsense. Even among real photographers damn few care about the
sensor. It's the camera that counts.


and that's largely due to the sensor. had the d3 had a larger d2x
sensor, few people would be as impressed.

they'll
pick the d3 or d700 because of its high iso performance.


And not because of the sensor.


the high iso performance is due to the sensor.

this is most
apparent with the foveon fanatics, who pick a really ****ty camera only
because it has this supposedly magical sensor.


"Fanatics" are, by definition, not rational.


true.
  #10  
Old August 7th 09, 08:13 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Ray Fischer
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Default New Sony Sensor Technology May Help Solve Problems with P&S Cameras

nospam wrote:
In article , Ray Fischer
wrote:

nospam wrote:
Ray Fischer

Canon's lead over Nikon in large sensors, while still significant, has
shrunk now that Nikon has managed to come out with a full frame sensor
(though of lower resolution). Now Sony may have some disruptive
technology.

with the d3 sensor, it is nikon who has the lead over canon, and

Even if true that's a stupid statement for the simple reason that a
camera is not a sensor. People don't buy or use sensors. They buy
and use cameras.

but people buy cameras because they have a particular sensor.


Nonsense. Even among real photographers damn few care about the
sensor. It's the camera that counts.


and that's largely due to the sensor.


Nope. Lenses, shutter, computers, batteries, controls, menus. All
that counts for more.

they'll
pick the d3 or d700 because of its high iso performance.


And not because of the sensor.


the high iso performance is due to the sensor.


Only partly. Without the CPU to take care of processing the image the
sensor would be just another sensor. Without the code to take the
sensor data and turn it into pixels you wouldn't even have an image.

this is most
apparent with the foveon fanatics, who pick a really ****ty camera only
because it has this supposedly magical sensor.


"Fanatics" are, by definition, not rational.


true.



--
Ray Fischer


 




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