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Prometheus wrote:
In article , Digital Photo writes I want to use a GPS to record the location where I took a picture. Do any of you know of one that records the location, and time when the waypoint is marked? The Garmin GPS12 does this, I have one. I would like such a feature with a camera, perhaps also with a compass, so the EXIF record could include where and in what direction the photograph was taken; the again perhaps a notepad would be better, certainly cheaper. Where is GPS, what direction requires addition of a digital compass function as well. |
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Prometheus wrote:
In article , Ron Hunter writes Did I suggest they should remove the serial interface? I suggest that if a GPS manufacturer wants me to connect my computer to the GPS and transfer megabytes of information, then 115kbps isn't going to hack it, even if I didn't mind shutting the computer down to connect, and then disconnect the GPS (which I DO mind) I can understand the reluctance to use such a low speed connection for large amounts of data, but since changing the data would be infrequent I do not see at as a major disincentive. AS for switching the computer off to connect a serial device, WHY? I regularly connect and disconnect serial devices without switching anything off to do so, maybe it was important in the old days but modern systems are for more resilient. It's your computer, and your peripheral. Not on mine, thanks. |
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Prometheus wrote:
In article , Ron Hunter writes Did I suggest they should remove the serial interface? I suggest that if a GPS manufacturer wants me to connect my computer to the GPS and transfer megabytes of information, then 115kbps isn't going to hack it, even if I didn't mind shutting the computer down to connect, and then disconnect the GPS (which I DO mind) I can understand the reluctance to use such a low speed connection for large amounts of data, but since changing the data would be infrequent I do not see at as a major disincentive. AS for switching the computer off to connect a serial device, WHY? I regularly connect and disconnect serial devices without switching anything off to do so, maybe it was important in the old days but modern systems are for more resilient. It's your computer, and your peripheral. Not on mine, thanks. |
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Prometheus wrote:
In article , Ron Hunter writes and requires power cycling to connect and disconnect No it does not, my PCs at home and work do not; I regularly connect and disconnect their serial ports. Sigh. It is impossible to even REACH my serial port without disconnecting everything, and moving my computer desk. NOT going to happen. |
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Prometheus wrote:
In article , Ron Hunter writes and requires power cycling to connect and disconnect No it does not, my PCs at home and work do not; I regularly connect and disconnect their serial ports. Sigh. It is impossible to even REACH my serial port without disconnecting everything, and moving my computer desk. NOT going to happen. |
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Dave Head wrote:
On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 20:10:45 -0500, Ron Hunter wrote: Mxsmanic wrote: Ron Hunter writes: A serial port still? Sigh. This GPS owner will NOT buy another one until they abandon this artifact of a previous century! Why abandon it? It's adequate to the task and it's the most compatible interface around. Not at all. 90% of the problems people reported with communications before USB and Ethernet became common were caused by incorrect serial port connections, or setup. It's a SLOW and cumbersome method, and requires power cycling to connect and disconnect. It's fine for connecting a keyboard, but I wouldn't deal with it again for all the tea in China. I certainly won't buy another GPS receiver until they ditch the ancient interface. Where does this "power cycling" thing come from? I don't powercycle anything when connecting and disconnecting RS-232 devices. This is just plain wrong. I've been using RS-232 since the mid-80's, and none of the equipment needed to be shut down to connect or disconnect an RS-232 device. Dave Head and I have been using them since the mid 1970's (earlier at work) and the instructions ALWAYS stated that both devices should be powered off. Bet they still do! |
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Dave Head wrote:
On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 20:10:45 -0500, Ron Hunter wrote: Mxsmanic wrote: Ron Hunter writes: A serial port still? Sigh. This GPS owner will NOT buy another one until they abandon this artifact of a previous century! Why abandon it? It's adequate to the task and it's the most compatible interface around. Not at all. 90% of the problems people reported with communications before USB and Ethernet became common were caused by incorrect serial port connections, or setup. It's a SLOW and cumbersome method, and requires power cycling to connect and disconnect. It's fine for connecting a keyboard, but I wouldn't deal with it again for all the tea in China. I certainly won't buy another GPS receiver until they ditch the ancient interface. Where does this "power cycling" thing come from? I don't powercycle anything when connecting and disconnecting RS-232 devices. This is just plain wrong. I've been using RS-232 since the mid-80's, and none of the equipment needed to be shut down to connect or disconnect an RS-232 device. Dave Head and I have been using them since the mid 1970's (earlier at work) and the instructions ALWAYS stated that both devices should be powered off. Bet they still do! |
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Ron Hunter writes: I'm not drawing one. The analogy of batteries to serial connections was a bad one. It was entirely pertinent. You appear to favor change for the sake of change, so discarding AA batteries simply because there's something newer would make sense according to your reasoning, just as you seem to wish to discard serial interfaces just because there is something newer. I attempted to use it once, but couldn't decipher the software so I am not sure if the serial port was correctly configured, or not. The software was an example of software written by people who knew exactly how the system worked, but weren't ABOUT to let the user in on their secret. I discarded the idea of loading localized databases after a few tries. My Palm Pilot works perfectly over the serial port, and it did so from the instant I plugged it in. There was nothing to configure. I think you have a software problem, not a hardware problem. I love the GPS, and enjoyed using it on vacation this year (Alaskan Cruise), and would love to have one with the moving map, but the idea of trying to load several megabytes of data to it over a serial connection is just NOT something I would undertake. There are always paper maps. When there is something significantly better and easier to use than AA batteries, then I will switch. I guess you guys are satisfied with a 1950 model car and still have round color TVs (or black and white). The old RS232 serial ports are ancient history, and defending them makes about as much sense as defending the continued inclusion of 3.5 inch floppies in new computers. Some people just won't let go of the old worn out stuff. Enjoy the 1900's, I'm bound for the future. |
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Ron Hunter writes: It ain't the money, it's the principle. Some of us still have principle. Some of us have learned not to fix things that aren't broken. Enjoy the 1900's. I live in the the 21st century. |
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Ron Hunter writes: I doubt it, but then I suspect I am not the ONLY one who feels this way. I have heard others express the same opinion. You are probably a minority of total users. Besides, no other interface is so universal. Sigh. I give up. Now I know why so many people don't even know what a GPS is. |
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