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  #11  
Old March 17th 13, 05:20 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,alt.photography,rec.photo.digital
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On 3/17/2013 2:16 AM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2013-03-16 05:24:44 -0700, Alan Browne
said:


http://memolition.com/2013/03/15/the...tography-27-pi
ctures/


Great stuff!!

I have two apps for my iPad, 500px and the Guardian "Eyewitness" apps
and I have been immersing myself in some of the amazing images presented
in both.
500px provides shots of incredible quality in their app, including these
macros;
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/Fil.../500px-001.PNG
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/Fil.../500px-002.PNG

"Eyewitness" runs a continuous free gallery of 50 images, adding new
shot and removing the oldest each day. They offer a different access for
a subscription;

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/Fil...%2034%20PM.png



https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/Fil...%2033%20PM.png



https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/Fil...%2027%20AM.png


...and

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/Fil...%2034%20AM.png

If I took pictures like that, I would unretire in a New York minute.
Are they yours?

I have problems believing that they were taken with an iPad.



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Old March 17th 13, 06:14 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,alt.photography,rec.photo.digital
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On 3/17/2013 12:50 AM, Rob wrote:

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Camera clubs live in there own little world and stay in a rut.


Not all. Just some of the judges. My club has 60 members. On competition
nights we average about 40. On other nights, attendance varies, but
rarely less than 30. We have filed trips every Sunday. about 15 to 20
show up. Some just come for breakfast, where we get into discussions.
About two weeks ago two of our members gave a presentation of shooting
butterflies. Today, we went to a butterfly exhibit. (Yes it was
indoors.) On my recent trip to FL, I was kept busy almost every day,
shooting with members oaf my club.


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Old March 17th 13, 06:58 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 17/03/2013 17:20, PeterN wrote:
On 3/17/2013 2:16 AM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2013-03-16 05:24:44 -0700, Alan Browne
said:


http://memolition.com/2013/03/15/the...tography-27-pi

ctures/


Great stuff!!

I have two apps for my iPad, 500px and the Guardian "Eyewitness" apps
and I have been immersing myself in some of the amazing images presented
in both.

[]
"Eyewitness" runs a continuous free gallery of 50 images, adding new
shot and removing the oldest each day. They offer a different access for
a subscription;

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/Fil...%2034%20PM.png




https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/Fil...%2033%20PM.png




https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/Fil...%2027%20AM.png



...and

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/Fil...%2034%20AM.png


If I took pictures like that, I would unretire in a New York minute.
Are they yours?

I have problems believing that they were taken with an iPad.


Displayed on, not taken with. They are from the Guardian Eyewitness, as
was stated. It may show what a 3 Mpix display can do! Many of the
images do look exceedingly good.
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Old March 17th 13, 08:10 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,alt.photography,rec.photo.digital
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On 2013-03-17 10:20:32 -0700, PeterN said:

On 3/17/2013 2:16 AM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2013-03-16 05:24:44 -0700, Alan Browne
said:


http://memolition.com/2013/03/15/the...tography-27-pi
ctures/


Great stuff!!

I have two apps for my iPad, 500px and the Guardian "Eyewitness" apps
and I have been immersing myself in some of the amazing images presented
in both.
500px provides shots of incredible quality in their app, including these
macros;
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/Fil.../500px-001.PNG
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/Fil.../500px-002.PNG

"Eyewitness" runs a continuous free gallery of 50 images, adding new
shot and removing the oldest each day. They offer a different access for
a subscription;

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/Fil...%2034%20PM.png




https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/Fil...%2033%20PM.png



https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/Fil...%2027%20AM.png


....and

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/Fil...%2034%20AM.png

If

I took pictures like that, I would unretire in a New York minute.
Are they yours?


I wish!!
....but I certainly find them inspiring.

I have problems believing that they were taken with an iPad.


Nowhere did I say they were taken with an iPad.
500px has an app for ipad, iPhone, & Android devices which gives you
access to their galleries.
http://500px.com/apps

....and The Guardian has their "Eyewitness" app with free and
subscription options ( I use the free version) which has a gallery of
100 shots. A new shot is added, and the oldest is removed daily.
https://itunes.apple.com/app/the-gua...363993651?mt=8

On the iPad with the "Retina" display, the impact of those images is
quite amazing. What I posted were screen captures from my iPad.

If I recall, you have an iPhone, get the 500px app and do some
exploring. Obviously having the larger display of the iPad is nice, but
you will have access to their "popular", Editor's Choice", "Upcoming",
& "Fresh" galleries. Enjoy.


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Savageduck

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Old March 17th 13, 10:30 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 3/17/2013 1:14 PM, PeterN wrote:
On 3/17/2013 12:50 AM, Rob wrote:

snip


Camera clubs live in there own little world and stay in a rut.


Not all. Just some of the judges. My club has 60 members. On competition
nights we average about 40. On other nights, attendance varies, but
rarely less than 30. We have filed trips every Sunday. about 15 to 20
show up. Some just come for breakfast, where we get into discussions.
About two weeks ago two of our members gave a presentation of shooting
butterflies. Today, we went to a butterfly exhibit. (Yes it was
indoors.) On my recent trip to FL, I was kept busy almost every day,
shooting with members oaf my club.



Who are these oafish members of your camera club, and why haven't
they been kicked out?

John
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Old March 18th 13, 02:08 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,alt.photography,rec.photo.digital
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"Rob" wrote in message
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Curious why you say they would NOT do well in a camera club? Just
wondering?


Many judges would say: the hot spots are distracting; parts of the
creatures are outside the image area, etc.
Please note the above is not my impression, but is intended to be a
commentary of the weaknesses of camera club judging. I have often said
that Cartier-Bresson, would not do well in camera club competitions.

Agree with your comments, camera club judges are full of themselves on the
night, nit picking, they can't correctly evaluate the elements of an image
and ridicule the content. As an example some time ago had a image
evaluated and the comment was the horizon was not straight, funny about
that it had lens curvature. Another example was architecture, where
verticals should be vertical or over over emphasised, looking up at a tall
building, the judge picked on one as not vertical which should have been,
but there were 2 others out of whack as well, but no criticism of the fact
but given awards!

I have even pointed out plagiarism of images and part images, to the
committee, ripped off the web, and they have condoned the use of such
images, to the extent where the image has been best in section. I was
being a pain in the arse to them.

I'm sure other images being presented in competitions, were not setup or
photographed by the author, as they didn't show a consistent standard of
such photographer compare with there other submissions.

What does amaze me is the judges will critique an image but can't explain
why or give their opinion how to rectify the perceived fault.

One particular night there was this judge who insisted using "Um" all the
time, this irritates me as its them catching up with their thoughts,
anyhow this was so annoying that I started to count the number of time she
used "Um" and the intervals between. Results basically, 700, at 20 second
intervals, yep - over 3 hour period.
What a long boring night that turned out to be.

Camera clubs live in there own little world and stay in a rut.



The real question is why you would bother then rather than get out and take
pictures for your own pleasure, and/or paying clients, rather than approval
from stupid camera club judges?

Trevor.




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Old March 18th 13, 02:14 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,alt.photography,rec.photo.digital
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"Tony Cooper" wrote in message
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The only real objection I have to the competitions is that submissions
are not required to be "fresh". So, instead of shooting to the
mandate, most members pull shots from their archives and the image
might have been taken several years ago.


Why should that matter? A seperate comp for a joint walkabout shooting
session should cover that where people only get to shoot the same subjects
in the same time, for those who prefer that limitation. Frankly I find the
whole idea of such comps rather narcissistic and pointless, but each to
their own.

Trevor.


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Old March 18th 13, 03:59 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,alt.photography,rec.photo.digital
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"Tony Cooper" wrote in message
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On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:14:00 +1100, "Trevor" wrote:
"Tony Cooper" wrote in message
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The only real objection I have to the competitions is that submissions
are not required to be "fresh". So, instead of shooting to the
mandate, most members pull shots from their archives and the image
might have been taken several years ago.


Why should that matter?


The idea of a mandate is to encourage the photographer to find
something to shoot that he/she might not otherwise shoot and/or to
look at a scene to find something in it that he/she might not
otherwise see. It should expand the photographer's thinking.


.....in the direction of the mandate, rather than the direction of the
photographers choosing. Can't see the point, but if you are happy, sure
doesn't bother me.


A seperate comp for a joint walkabout shooting session should cover that
where people only get to shoot the same subjects in the same time,
for those who prefer that limitation.


To the best of my knowledge, there are no Aborigines that are members
of the camera club I belong to.


Am I supposed to laugh?


Frankly I find the whole idea of such comps rather narcissistic and
pointless, but each to their own.


That's OK. Those that aren't interested, or those who aren't willing
to have their efforts judged by others, are not pressed to join in.



Exactly, and neither are those who dislike the judges
motives/ability/comments/agenda, or any other reason/complaint given so far.

Trevor.


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Old March 18th 13, 05:43 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,alt.photography,rec.photo.digital
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On 18/03/2013 2:15 PM, Tony Cooper wrote:
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:14:00 +1100, "Trevor" wrote:


"Tony Cooper" wrote in message
...
The only real objection I have to the competitions is that submissions
are not required to be "fresh". So, instead of shooting to the
mandate, most members pull shots from their archives and the image
might have been taken several years ago.


Why should that matter?


The idea of a mandate is to encourage the photographer to find
something to shoot that he/she might not otherwise shoot and/or to
look at a scene to find something in it that he/she might not
otherwise see. It should expand the photographer's thinking.

Putting a time restraint on it, stirs the photographer to do the above
now instead of going through a couple of thousand archive shots that
might fit the mandate.

A seperate comp for a joint walkabout shooting session should cover that
where people only get to shoot the same subjects in the same time,
for those who prefer that limitation.



After a club outing about 2 months later a subject came up where an
image suitable for the comp, 4 images the same turned up, B&W as well.

To the best of my knowledge, there are no Aborigines that are members
of the camera club I belong to.


We have blue eye blonds who are aborigines, nowdays you can't tell



Frankly I find the whole idea of such comps rather narcissistic and
pointless, but each to their own.


That's OK. Those that aren't interested, or those who aren't willing
to have their efforts judged by others, are not pressed to join in.


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Old March 18th 13, 05:49 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,alt.photography,rec.photo.digital
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"Tony Cooper" wrote in message
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Frankly I find the whole idea of such comps rather narcissistic and
pointless, but each to their own.


"Narcissism" is not a word that I would choose to describe the
motivation to participate in competitions. The narcissist is
interested only self, and is excessively vain or egotistical.


Yep, that's the motivation for many, a desire to be admired by others for
the talent they think they have.


The narcissist would be adverse to entering competition because he or
she would not be willing to be judged by others and would assume that
anything he or she created would be superior to the submissions of
others by default.


Right, they expect to win, and blame the judges when they don't.


The true narcissist *does* feel that competitions of this sort are
pointless, though, because he or she feels that his or her submission
is sure to win and therefore going through the motions of entering is
pointless.


Well that's one way to look at it I guess. But the true narcissist expects
to win and needs the admiration.


Those of us who do enter competitions do so because a) we are proud of
our work, or, b) we want to hear/read how others see our work, or, c)
because we want recognition for our efforts,


Exactly my point. But go right ahead, I said straight up each to their own.

Trevor.


 




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