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Old February 26th 07, 05:22 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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The concept of a Supreme Creator of the universe has been something,
which the western world has been trying to prove or refute now for
thousands of years. However, only in the past 200 years have the creme
de la creme of western intellectuals, come to the conclusion that a
God/Creator of the universe is and has been a figment of mans
imagination. This conclusion was formed as a reaction to the beliefs
and practices of Christianity, which was a major force in European
life at this time. Beliefs such as that of the Trinity[1] and the
divine nature of Jesus Christ, were so complicated to understand -
even for the elite of the church - that eventually the idea of a
supreme and perfect creator (which Christianity had distorted) was
replaced by many new theories which tried to explain how mankind came
about and developed. Many different theories were introduced to the
western world, but one common trait, which they all shared, was that
there was no Supreme force, which governed the universe.

So where does Islam come into all of this? Islam[2] is the one way of
life, the one religion which until now has not been challenged
successfully by any philosopher, atheist or intellectual. Rather the
case has been the exact opposite and there have been thousands, if not
millions, of so-called 'atheists' who have reverted back to Islam. So
how does Islam explain the existence of this Supreme Creator?

The Natural Way

Allaah says in his final revelation, the Qur'aan:

"Therefore turn your face steadfastly towards the true faith, away
from all that which is false, in accordance with the Pure nature with
which Allaah has Created people. Let there be no altering in the laws
of Allaah's Creation. This is surely the true religion, but most
people do not know it."
(Surah Ar-Rum 30:30)

The pure nature which is mentioned in this verse is probably the most
convincing proof of a divine creator to any sincere seeker of truth.
Which person can deny (atheist or otherwise) that when he/she is in
dire trouble, when life is about to be taken away from them, when the
pressures are unbearable - that then do they turn to that force above
the skies. How many times are we confronted by a scenario in which the
words: "Please God help me, and I promise that I will always pray to
you and be good." roll off our tongues with such sincerity? Every time
something bad happens, words such as these come out of the people's
mouths. Yet as soon as the harm is removed the very same people
beseeching the help of their creator, turn away:

"And whatever of blessings and good things you have, it is from Allah.
Then, when harm touches you, unto him you cry aloud for help. Yet no
sooner does he remove your ills then some of you set up partners to
their lord."
(Surah An-Nahl 16:53-54)

This pure nature which every human is born with is known as the Fitrah
in the Arabic language. Every human being, man or woman is born with
this natural instinct to recognise the Creator and turn to Him. This
is proved by the hadeeth[3] of the last messenger to mankind Muhammed
(s.a.w.) who said: "Every child is born upon the pure fitra, it is
only his parents that later turn him into a Jew, a Christian, or a
Magian.[4]"[5]

In fact if humans were not influenced by their societal pressures then
their belief in the Creator would be distinct and clearly visible. But
unfortunately this is not the case, and there exists in all non-Muslim
societies a clear trend to distort the nature of human beings. One of
the ways in which this is done in western societies is through the
education system and its institutions. Western education is based
around a whole body of secular thought which has no place for a
Creator. In science lessons kids are taught that we are the ancestors
of monkeys and apes and that this implies that we came about by pure
chance.[6] In subjects such as psychology and sociology we are taught
that religion is a tool of the privileged few who oppress the
downtrodden majority.[7] This form of education has also unfortunately
influenced the Muslims, and we find it very common nowadays to see the
likes of the 'Abdullaah's' and the 'Fatima's' of western society
proclaiming that they do not believe in God.

The Beauty of creation

Allaah says in the Qur'aan:

"Verily in the creation of the heavens and the earth, in the
alternation of night and day, in the sailing of the ships through the
ocean for the profit of the people, in the water which Allaah sends
down from the skies reviving with it the dead earth and dispersing
over it all kinds of beasts, in the change of the winds, and in the
clouds that run their appointed courses between heaven and earth: In
all of this, indeed there are signs for people of understanding."
(Surah Al-Baqarah 2:164)

SubhaanAllaah![8] How beautiful and accurate this verse is. Is it not
true that when we look at the world around us we see such beauty and
craftsmanship. Surely such excellence could not have come about by
chance. Everything in this world and universe runs on a set course and
pattern, so how is it possible then, that by pure chance everything in
this universe was created with such skill and precision?

The wonders of nature are absolutely astounding, the wind, the rain,
the hail and the snow were all products of chance, then why is it that
mankind, with all his technological know how, cannot even divert the
softest of breezes which blows through the trees in summer? The answer
is obvious. All these natural elements are aspects of Allaah's
Creation and he alone can control and manipulate them as he wills.

In fact the Creation of Allaah is so perfect that even if we try to
detect a fault in it, then we will not succeed:

"Blessed be He to Whom all sovereignty belongs; He has power over all
things. He Who Created death and life that He may test which of you is
best in deed. He is the Almighty, the Oft-forgiving. He Who Created
the seven heavens one above another. You can see no fault in the
Creation of the Bestower of Mercy. Turn up your eyes: Can you detect a
single flaw? Look once more, and yet again: Your sight will in the end
grow humbled and weary."
(Surah Al-Mulk 67:1-4)

It is not just the seas, the mountains, the rivers and the skies which
are a proof for the existence of our Creator, but also ourselves.
Allaah says in the Qur'aan:

"On the earth are signs visible to all who have faith with certainty,
just as there are signs within your ownselves. Will you then not see?"
(Surah Adh-Dhariyat 51:20-21)

The variety of humanity is indeed amazing, black and white, tall and
short, fat and thin, good and evil, man and woman etc. etc. How many
times have we considered the complex makeup of our bodies both
physical and mental and found it to be completely beyond belief. It is
known that if the intestines of a human being were taken out of the
body, they would be so long that they could cover the entire area of a
tennis court!

But when we think about these long intestines being inside of us, it
astounds and amazes us. The human brain is thought to be more powerful
that any mainframe computer on earth, whilst the eye is said to be
more complex and structured then any telescope invented by man. The
human mind is something which is still undiscovered by psychologists
and psychiatrists, and the nature of our dreams and thoughts is
something which these people will probably never unravel. So we should
ask ourselves, is it still possible for such a complex being such as
ourselves, to be a mere product of chance, or rather, are we products
of a supreme and skillful creator, who has shown us that he really is
Al-Khaliq?[9]

Yet despite our complicated and intricate makeup, our comparison to
the Creator is not even possible. Mankind with his level of technology
has gained the impression that he is the most supreme being in this
universe. Yet when we look at examples of western society we see that
these same humans who claim such superiority, cannot even maintain
basic standards of hygiene! Washing the body-parts after urinating or
excreting has almost become a sin for many people in the west, yet at
the same time these people are the very same who claim technological
advancement! Maybe if they believed in a Creator, the basics of life
would perchance return to them, just as they have returned to the
Muslims.

The proofs for the existence of a creator are so numerous that it
would take us a very long time to go through every single one. So
finally we should remember, that the creation of humanity was neither
an accident, nor a development from monkey to man. Rather it was the
creation of Allah the Most High, the Most Perfect, who reminds us of
the stupidity of those who claim that He did not create us:

"Were they created of nothing? or were they perchance, their own
creators? or did they create the heavens and the earth? surely they
have no firm belief."
(Surah At-Tur 52:35-36)

Footnotes

[1] The belief that the Father (God), the son (Jesus) and the Holy
spirit (?) are all parts of one God, despite the fact that they are 3
separate entities!! To this very day millions of Christians are still
unable to understand this belief, which is one of the reasons why it
has even been thrown out of some versions of the Bible.
[2] The meaning of Islam is to 'sincerely submit your will, to the
will of Allaah (God)'.
[3] Hadeeth: A report of the Prophet Muhammed's (s.a.w.'s) sayings,
actions or approvals.
[4] A Magian is another word for a fire worshipper.
[5] Sahih Muslim.
[6] This theory was made popular by a man known as Charles Darwin.
[7] This is the view of the German scientist Karl Marx.
[8] Glory be to Allaah who is free form any imperfection.
[9] The supreme creator: This is one of the many attributes of
Allaah.



For more information:
http://thetruereligion.org/modules/w...p?articleid=72

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Old February 26th 07, 12:03 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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"Happy Man" wrote in message
.com...
The concept of a Supreme Creator of the universe has been something,
which the western world has been trying to prove or refute now for



I am beginning to understand why it is so easy for the terrorists to find
Suicide Bombers.

This continuous " Holy - Praise Be" rhetoric would drive any-one nuts.

We are only reading it once a day, yet Muslims are supposed to go to the
Mosque often and have to listen to this sort of nauseating preaching for
hours.

A quick trip with a bomb round your waist must begin to seem a very
attractive alternative.

Roy G


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Old February 26th 07, 05:26 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Everyone knows the world was created by a giant turtle with diarrhea.
Or was it an old white guy with a beard and a penthouse view?


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Old February 27th 07, 12:28 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article ,
"gowanoh" wrote:

Everyone knows the world was created by a giant turtle with diarrhea.
Or was it an old white guy with a beard and a penthouse view?


Maybe just an Fwit with a hotmail account.

--
Would thou choose to meet a rat eating dragon, or
a dragon, eating rat? The answer of: I am somewhere
in the middle. "Me who is part taoist and part Christian".
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Old February 27th 07, 05:07 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Happy Man wrote:
The concept of a Supreme Creator of the universe has been something, yada yada...

YAWN.

The entire purpose of religion is mind control over it's followers! This
applies to all religions, Islam, Scientology, The Church of Rome, Branch
Davidians et al.

Religion is about control. If people disagree, well kill them! Odd how
the Koran, The Bible teach peace, yet the leaders will use what they
claim is God's words to persecute and kill others. The fact the God
allows his words to justify this hate, genocide, ethnic cleansing or
holocaust is clear proof that there is no God!

The God of the Old Testament would have smitted the World for the evil
done in his name.
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Old February 27th 07, 10:02 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article , Watcher wrote:

he fact the God
allows his words to justify this hate, genocide, ethnic cleansing or
holocaust is clear proof that there is no God!


Who is this "God" person everyone keeps talking about? Local boy?
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Old February 27th 07, 11:40 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article ,
Watcher dev/null wrote:

YAWN.


Nothing exists.

--
Would thou choose to meet a rat eating dragon, or
a dragon, eating rat? The answer of: I am somewhere
in the middle. "Me who is part taoist and part Christian".
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Old February 28th 07, 05:35 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On Feb 28, 2:40 am, Little Green Eyed Dragon
wrote:
In article ,

Watcher dev/null wrote:
YAWN.


Nothing exists.

--
Would thou choose to meet a rat eating dragon, or
a dragon, eating rat? The answer of: I am somewhere
in the middle. "Me who is part taoist and part Christian".


Islam, the Religion of Ease



Allah, subhanahu wata'aala, is the creator of mankind and therefore
knows his nature more intricately than mankind himself. Allah,
subhanahu wata'aala, has therefore chosen for us a religion best
suited to the nature of mankind, a religion that goes neither to the
extremes of hardship nor of laxity, but instead provides a middle
path; in other words, a religion of ease. Allah, subhanahu wata'aala,
said;

"Allah intends for you ease, and does not want to make things
difficult for you" [2:185]; and "Allah does not want to place you in
difficulty" [5:6].

Such easiness is well explained in the hadeeth reported by Abu
Hurairah, radiya Allahu 'anhu, that the Prophet, salla Allaahu 'alaihe
wasallam, said, "Religion is easy..." [Bukhari], he also said; "The
best of your religion, is the easiest." [Ahmad]

The easiness of this religion was put into practise by the best of
humanity, the one who came to deliver the message, as Allah, subhanahu
wata'aala, said;

"Verily there has come unto you a Messenger from amongst yourselves,
it grieves him that you should suffer any difficulty, he is anxious
for you, for the believers he is full of pity and merciful" [10:128]

This understanding is clarified in a hadeeth in which the Prophet,
salla Allaahu 'alaihe wasallam, said; "... Allah did not send me to be
harsh, or cause harm, but He sent me to teach and make things
easy" [Muslim]. This understanding is further implemented by the mercy
sent to mankind, Muhammed, salla Allaahu 'alaihe wasallam, in the
hadeeth reported by his noble and pure wife, 'Aishah, radiya Allahu
'anhu, who said; "Whenever the Prophet, salla Allaahu 'alaihe
wasallam, has a choice between two matters, he would choose the
easiest, unless it is sinful (act)" [Bukhari].

Many hadeeths have been reported on the matter of easiness: "Allah
likes for this nation ease and hates for it hardship and
adversity." [Tabaraani].

"We have been given a privilege over other nations... .we have been
given verses that no one else has been given, the last two verses of
Surah Baqarah(chapter 2)"Our Lord! Punish us not if we forget or fall
into error. Our Lord! Lay not on us a burden greater than we have
strength to bear" After each statement, Allah responded by saying, "I
did, I did, I did"" [Muslim].

To further emphasise this understanding to his companions, when once a
Bedouin stood up and started urinating in the mosque, the people
caught him; but he, salla Allaahu 'alaihe wasallam, ordered them to
leave him and to pour a bucket or a tumbler of water over the place
where he had urinated. The Prophet, salla Allaahu 'alaihe wasallam,
then said, "You have been sent to make things easy and not to make
them difficult" [Bukhari].

An example that illustrates this point is Salah, an act so important
and vital to Islam that the Prophet, salla Allaahu 'alaihe wasallam,
said; "Between a person and disbelief is discarding prayer" [Muslim].
He also warned against leaving salah, even at the time of his death,
in his very last breaths before departing from this world.

Yet in this worship Allah has also prescribed easiness. At first, the
number of prayers was fifty in number, but they were reduced several
times until they were five. Then it was proclaimed 'O Muhammad, the
order is not changed. These five are (equal in reward) to
fifty' [Tirmidhi].

Causes of hardship
If Islam is a religion of ease, why do we find many Muslims not
practising it? Why do we find them doing very little of what they
ought to be doing, and why do even those who practise their religion
sometimes find it difficult?

There are reasons why the practice of Islam can becomes hard:

1) Lack of piety
When we speak about Islam being easy we are, in reality, speaking
about the easiness of its acts of worship and morals. Religion by
definition means commitment and an obligation to a master. Therefore,
being a religious person means to be always aware that we are slaves
to a master, Allah, subhanahu wata'aala.

From here we see the mistake of those who want 'ease' to mean 'doing

nothing', just saying "I am a Muslim", committing themselves to
nothing. It is obvious that they want it to be easy, but what exactly
do they want? They want an easy life, a life without any religious
practices.

The idle belief of 'existing only to live' has long ago been negated
by Allah, subhanahu wata'aala. He said:

"Do you think you have been created for nothing and that you will not
be resurrected and brought back to Allah again!" [23:115]. He also
said: "Thinks man that he is left aimless?" [75:86].

Islam is easy to practice; but those who do not understand the reasons
behind their existence, who do not understand the concepts of
religion, but meanwhile are striving to secure themselves in this
life; then surely they will find its practices difficult.

The easiness of Islam is felt in all of its commandments. Some people
find this or that commandment hard to follow but this does not mean
that the command is in itself hard; often it is the person who is the
cause.

For example Salah, it is an easy act of worship, as Allah, subhanahu
wata'aala, has made clear:

"And seek help in patience and prayer and truly it is (prayer)
extremely heavy and hard except for Al-Khashi'un (i.e. true
submitting)" [2;45].

Prayer is an easy act of worship except, of course, for those who do
not truly submit to their Lord; they will find it toilsome.

Why do they find it so? The answer is that it is not the prayer that
is difficult, but it is the hearts of these people which have changed
from good to bad, as Allah, subhanahu wata'aala, mentioned:

"Verily, the hypocrites seek to deceive Allah, but it is He Who
deceives them. And when they stand up to pray, they stand with
laziness ..." [4;142]; in another verse He subhanahu wata'aala, said;
"And that they came not to prayer except in a lazy state ..." [9;54].

2) Ignorance
The rules of Islam did not come as mere do's and don'ts. Each
obligation has wisdom and motivation behind it. It should make no
difference to us if the wisdom for that particular practice is known
or not, because if it is not known to us today, then if Allah wills,
He will reveal it to future generations. What is primarily expected
from us is to fully submit and implement every command.

For example, the giving of charity, which apparently decreases the
wealth of the giver. Islam did not say "Pay charity, pay charity", as
this would not motivate people and therefore make it difficult to act
upon. Instead Allah says;

"Would you not like to give a loan to your Lord, and this loan will be
paid back to you multiplied and you will be rewarded for it." [2:245]

The Prophet, salla Allaahu 'alaihe wasallam, said; "Verily, wealth
does not decrease because of charity." [Muslim]

It seems Muslims often ask why this act or matter is Halaal or Haraam.
With such an attitude they will never achieve their goal, because
behind each injunction there is an aspect of wisdom. Without
understanding this, practising Islam becomes a heavy burden. With
strong belief, we do not even have to ask whether this or that is
halaal or Haraam, but rather if it pleases Allah. Therefore we should
take the rules seeking the pleasure of Allah subhanahu wata'aala,. If
pleasing Allah subhanahu wata'aala, is, always, our aim, then
undoubtedly the practice of religion becomes easy, no matter what
apparent hardships we may encounter.

3) Inappropriate environment
It is true that sometimes we find it difficult to practise the
religion, even those who are committed to it!

The reason behind this is that we are practising our religion in an
non-religious environment. Islam is not meant to be practised while
being immersed in a Kufr (disbelieving) society. Its practice will
indeed be difficult in such an environment. Therefore, the difficulty
cannot be blamed upon Islam as a religion, but rather on the
circumstances of the society.

Returning to our example of prayer, we see that prayer by itself is
easy, but if you have to stand alone to pray amongst non-Muslims, all
of them watching you, it will suddenly become difficult. The obvious
conclusion is that the prayer in itself is not difficult, but the
environment has made it difficult.

Another example is that of a woman who wears hijaab and is happy to
cover herself. If this were an Islamic society, it would have been
difficult for her not to be covered, or for a man not to respond to
the call to prayer and pray in a mosque. Thus difficulty is not the
nature of our religion, but we are trying to be pure in a decadent and
immoral environment. These realities are not unknown to Islam, because
the Prophet, salla Allaahu 'alaihe wasallam, already warned his
companions some fourteen centuries ago, and by that has also warned us
by saying, as reported by Abu Tha'laba, radiya Allahu 'anhu, "... Ahead
of you are days which will require endurance (in the practice of
religion), in which he who shows endurance will be like him who grasps
live coals. The one who acts rightly during that period will have the
reward of fifty men who act as he does."

The hearers said, "The reward of fifty of them, Messenger of Allah!"
He replied, "The reward of fifty of you." A companion said about this
difference in reward, "Now you find people helping you to do good
deeds, but then they will not find things to help them but they will
find things to resist and oppose them." [Tirmidhi].

So Islam is the religion of ease. If we accept it as a religion to
start with, then we should take it with its concepts, and practise it
in a pure environment (as opposed to a corrupted and decadent one); it
will then become an easier religion to practise.

As it is not possible to have a 100% pure society, we have to strive
to achieve this by being surrounded by good Muslims. In doing this,
the religion will loosen the burdens around it.

The easiness of Islam has even been testified by the enemies of Islam.
This was apparent in the statement of the Jews at the time of the
Prophet, salla Allaahu 'alaihe wasallam, when a man and a woman from
amongst them committed fornication. Some of them said to the others:
"Let us go to this Prophet, for he has been sent with an easy law ...".
[Abu Dawood].

So may Allah, subhanahu wata'aala, make us amongst those who

"Listen to the word and follow the best thereof, whom Allah has guided
and those are men of understanding." [39;18].

Ameen.

For more information visit:
http://www.islamreligion.com/
http://www.thisistruth.org/index.php
http://www.islamqa.com/index.php?pg=about&ln=eng
http://www.al-sunnah.com/
http://www.islamhouse.com/


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In article . com,
Happy Man wrote:

Allah, subhanahu wata'aala, is the creator of mankind and therefore
knows his nature more intricately than mankind himself. Allah,
subhanahu wata'aala...


Too Long, Didn't Read.

My way is easier still. I don't make trouble for God, and she doesn't
make trouble for me. Sort of a mutual non-agression pact.
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Old March 1st 07, 06:32 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 10:23:47 -0500, Scott Schuckert wrote:

Allah, subhanahu wata'aala, is the creator of mankind and therefore
knows his nature more intricately than mankind himself. Allah,
subhanahu wata'aala...


Too Long, Didn't Read.

My way is easier still. I don't make trouble for God, and she doesn't
make trouble for me. Sort of a mutual non-agression pact.


She used to be a more invasive, troublesome, meddling God. But
ever since she agreed to her advisor's recommendation to don the
burka, she's had so much trouble following the comings and goings of
humankind that she rarely bothers anymore. Now she primarily deals
with larger, more visible objects such as hurricanes, tsunamis,
droughts, floods, earthquakes and volcanic eruptions. She
occasionally deals with humans, as she finds it extremely amusing to
watch the reactions when she "communicates" with the likes of the
Ayatollah Khomeini, Bad Boy Bin Laden, der Shrub, Kim Jong Il and
Oral Roberts. Having put them in such public spotlights has been
one of her benevolent touches, as it makes their followers easily
recognizable as the ones who are unable to pass the Doofus Test.



 




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