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Television series are still filmed
While some movies have moved to digital, esp. those laden with special effects, bread and butter television is still filmed. http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/...3/28544350.jpg (By the way, the large newspapers like the tribune, LATimes, WashPost, etc. usually have good photo slide shows with the mundane to the unusual. Often some show a great eye and technique). Cheers, Alan -- -- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. |
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On Mar 22, 1:50 pm, Alan Browne
wrote: While some movies have moved to digital, esp. those laden with special effects, bread and butter television is still filmed. http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/...3/28544350.jpg Are you sure that the film crew are not actors and part of the scene? Robert |
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Robert wrote:
On Mar 22, 1:50 pm, Alan Browne wrote: While some movies have moved to digital, esp. those laden with special effects, bread and butter television is still filmed. http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/...3/28544350.jpg Are you sure that the film crew are not actors and part of the scene? Go to the ChicagoTribune, find the photo series and read the caption. Television series (including most sitcomms) are mostly filmed, not taped. The reason is simple, right out of the camera you get much higher than television broadcast quality archive quality material. The original stock developed into transfer media and properly stored will last hundreds of years with little care (other than cooling). Cheers, Alan |
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While some movies have moved to digital, esp. those laden with special
effects, bread and butter television is still filmed. Decidedly. With DVD's I can reliably tell when they switch between film and video recording. The best I can say is that when shot with video the picture looks 'unintegrated': it has a 'soap opera' feel to it. To tell for sure put the playback in single frame mode. If shot with film then every x frames there will be a duplicate frame that is identical to the one before it, often every 4th frame - sometimes 2 frames will be smeared together to make up the extra frame. This is done to synch the film speed to the 60Hz frequency of the TV. The skip ratio can vary. If it is reliably every 6th frame it is likely due to converting a foreign (50Hz) show to US 60Hz TV. If film has been converted first to 50Hz and the tape is then converted to 60Hz the skipping sequence can be complex. IMO, if it is a quality series it is shot on film. -- Nicholas O. Lindan, Cleveland, Ohio Darkroom Automation: F-Stop Timers, Enlarging Meters http://www.darkroomautomation.com/index.htm n o lindan at ix dot netcom dot com |
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Television series are still filmed
On Mar 22, 3:22 pm, "Nicholas O. Lindan" wrote:
While some movies have moved to digital, esp. those laden with special effects, bread and butter television is still filmed. Decidedly. With DVD's I can reliably tell when they switch between film and video recording. The best I can say is that when shot with video the picture looks 'unintegrated': it has a 'soap opera' feel to it. To tell for sure put the playback in single frame mode. If shot with film then every x frames there will be a duplicate frame that is identical to the one before it, often every 4th frame - sometimes 2 frames will be smeared together to make up the extra frame. This is done to synch the film speed to the 60Hz frequency of the TV. The skip ratio can vary. If it is reliably every 6th frame it is likely due to converting a foreign (50Hz) show to US 60Hz TV. If film has been converted first to 50Hz and the tape is then converted to 60Hz the skipping sequence can be complex. When they show 48 frame/sec film on UK 50Hz TV I did not think they padded any frames at all, but just let it run slightly faster. Maybe that was long ago. I calculate that the music should rise in pitch by about 2/3 semitome. Robert |
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Nicholas O. Lindan wrote:
To tell for sure put the playback in single frame mode. If shot with film then every x frames there will be a duplicate frame that is identical to the one before it, often every 4th frame - sometimes 2 frames will be smeared together to make up the extra frame. This is done to synch the film speed to the 60Hz frequency of the TV. The skip ratio can vary. If it is reliably every 6th frame it is likely due to converting a foreign (50Hz) show to US 60Hz TV. If film has been converted first to 50Hz and the tape is then converted to 60Hz the skipping sequence can be complex. Film cameras that run at 30/1001 frames per second (the actual NTSC frame rate) reliably enough to not need conversion have been available since the 1980s. They were brought to market due to the large demand for music videos. Eliminating the 24 to 30 FPS conversion helped lower the price and production time. Digital conversion where the frame rate is converted by interpolation instead of adding or subtracting frames has been around for a long time. I have a Panasonic VCR, bought in 1992, that did it. What you may be seeing is the DVD player doing a cheap conversion. DVDs are recorded in one of four speeds. PAL FILM (24 FPS), PAL TV (25 FPS), NTSC FILM (24/1001 FPS, about 23.997) and NTSC TV (30/1001 FPS, about 29.997). My DVD player is connected to a multisystem TV and converts to either 24FPS or 30 FPS depending on the souce material. Yours probably converts it all to 25 or 30 FPS. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel N3OWJ/4X1GM IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 Fax ONLY: 972-2-648-1443 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838 Visit my 'blog at http://geoffstechno.livejournal.com/ |
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Television series are still filmed
Nicholas O. Lindan wrote:
While some movies have moved to digital, esp. those laden with special effects, bread and butter television is still filmed. Decidedly. With DVD's I can reliably tell when they switch between film and video recording. The best I can say is that when shot with video the picture looks 'unintegrated': it has a 'soap opera' feel to it. To tell for sure put the playback in single frame mode. If shot with film then every x frames there will be a duplicate frame that is identical to the one before it, often every 4th frame - sometimes 2 frames will be smeared together to make up the extra frame. This is done to synch the film speed to the 60Hz frequency of the TV. The skip ratio can vary. If it is reliably every 6th frame it is likely due to converting a foreign (50Hz) show to US 60Hz TV. If film has been converted first to 50Hz and the tape is then converted to 60Hz the skipping sequence can be complex. It's not 60Hz actually, but a hair short of 60 Hz. The skipping/interleaving sequences for film - 60 Hz; film - 50 Hz; and 30 Hz - 25 Hz is documented in many places online. http://www.paradiso-design.net/videostandards_en.html is one detailed source. Yes, it is complex. Cheers, Alan -- -- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. |
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"Robert" wrote
When they show 48 frame/sec film on UK 50Hz TV I did not think they padded any frames at all, but just let it run slightly faster. Makes sense: it would also leave more time for commercials. -- Nicholas O. Lindan, Cleveland, Ohio Darkroom Automation: F-Stop Timers, Enlarging Meters http://www.darkroomautomation.com/index.htm n o lindan at ix dot netcom dot com |
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