If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. |
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
#21
|
|||
|
|||
Minimal software to download Canon PowerShot to Mac?
In article .com,
ric wrote: i'm sure there's a reason for this but i can't see any justification for removing the ability to appear as a usb bulk storage device on a camera...for when you don't want to install canon's cruft, or want to use it on a new PC... I suspect the reason is that Canon wants you to install their silly software for marketing and control reason. |
#22
|
|||
|
|||
Minimal software to download Canon PowerShot to Mac?
Mike Rosenberg wrote:
Erik Richard Sørensen wrote: Strange - I know a lot of people here, who are using Canon cameras - especially the EOSD and IXUS models. (Some IXUS models in Wurope are identical to some A-models in the US). _ALL_ of these just pop up as HDs when connected... All I know is that two Canon users have already posted here saying this does not work. Buy a card reader. Works fine and no drivers needed for my Sandisk reader. Phil |
#23
|
|||
|
|||
Minimal software to download Canon PowerShot to Mac?
On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 19:54:33 +1300, G.T. wrote:
Erik Richard Sørensen wrote: Hei Mike Strange - I know a lot of people here, who are using Canon cameras - especially the EOSD and IXUS models. (Some IXUS models in Wurope are identical to some A-models in the US). _ALL_ of these just pop up as HDs when connected... Digital Rebels and Powershots don't do USB mass storage, I didn't think the other models did either. It's one of the lame things about Canons. I don't know what a Rebel is but the Powershot that we buy in this part of the world certainly just plug into the USB bus. The Mac recognises them with no other software required to load into iPhoto. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
#24
|
|||
|
|||
Minimal software to download Canon PowerShot to Mac?
In article , Cosmik Debris
wrote: On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 19:54:33 +1300, G.T. wrote: Erik Richard Sørensen wrote: Hei Mike Strange - I know a lot of people here, who are using Canon cameras - especially the EOSD and IXUS models. (Some IXUS models in Wurope are identical to some A-models in the US). _ALL_ of these just pop up as HDs when connected... Digital Rebels and Powershots don't do USB mass storage, I didn't think the other models did either. It's one of the lame things about Canons. I don't know what a Rebel is but the Powershot that we buy in this part of the world certainly just plug into the USB bus. The Mac recognises them with no other software required to load into iPhoto. We shoot EOS 10Ds and 20Ds here. They plug in via USB, and iPhoto grabs the images. |
#25
|
|||
|
|||
Minimal software to download Canon PowerShot to Mac?
ric wrote: Greg wrote: Digital Rebels and Powershots don't do USB mass storage, I didn't think the other models did either. It's one of the lame things about Canons. I generally trust your posts but this is the second time you've spouted major, easy to check bull****. some do. last week i had an eos 350D and 400D on my desk trying to get them working. i think the 350D's sold as the digital rebel in the US. the 350d can be persuaded to appear as a usb bulk storage device by selecting USB/PC-mode on the camera, rather than the PTP or whatever the other mode is. the 400 can't - the feature's been removed for some reason. drove me bat**** as it just doesn't plain work on our win2k sp4 work clients here in ptp mode - had to use the 350D as an expensive card reader in the end...! On my own Olympus I always select 'PC Mode', så I'm sure that the camera comes up as an external unit. and that's also what I recommend others to select. Infact I by this method can make mine occour in OS 9.2.2 as well with the extension 'Apple Mass Storage Extension' + an extension/library file from the USB DDK 1.5.5 kit called 'Missing USB Devices'. Selecting 'PC Mode', the camera just pops up nicely... By trying and testing more types of digicams I also have found that a brand here in Europe called 'Medion' works nicely on both OS 9.x and OS X, if you select 'PC mode', then they pop up as they should, though Medion themselves write that their cameras donot work with Apple systems - any version... Some cameras though are more tricky in OS 9.x. Here you sometimes have to open the extension/library 'Missing USB Devices' with a resurce editor and add the name and model code - not model number. You then sometimes can be lucky that the new 'Missing USB Devices' even will recognize more models from the same brand. - Fx. do all Medion series 5500, 5600, 5700 and 7110 models now work within OS 9.0.4 to 9.2.2. i'm sure there's a reason for this but i can't see any justification for removing the ability to appear as a usb bulk storage device on a camera...for when you don't want to install canon's cruft, or want to use it on a new PC... To me it seems as if Canon 'thinks' - believe that their software is the best of all to use. - As I earlier wrote I don't like iPhoto, but I find this piece of software better than the Canon stuff... I have tried to use 'Inkscape' in connection with GraphicConverter on OS X. This is the best combination of software that I've tried until now. Inkscape though is a bit slow, but the newest version is better than the previous. Inkscape requires X11, - Gosh! I wish it was native X... cheers, Erik Richard -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~ KMLDenmark by Erik Richard Sørensen, Member of ADC *Music Recording, Editing & Publishing - Also Smaller Quantities *Software - For Theological Education - And For Physically Impaired *Nisus - The Future in Text & Mail Processing http://www.nisus.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~ |
#26
|
|||
|
|||
Minimal software to download Canon PowerShot to Mac?
In article 1hpfbaf.wc3npy1tkhzbN%mikePOST@TOGROUPmacconsult. com,
(Mike Rosenberg) wrote: Erik Richard Sørensen wrote: There is no 'minimum' - just plug the camera to the USB, and it'll occour on the desktop. Except that it's already been established in this thread that Canon cameras don't work that way. ? I have a Canon Powershot A80. I put the card in a card reader and do whatever I want with it -- Preview to look or PS Elements or iPhoto. Dunna about doing anything with the card IN the camera. -- -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ "Maligning an individual says more about you than the one you malign." http://web.mac.com/barbschaller; blahblahblog http://jamlady.eboard.com |
#27
|
|||
|
|||
Minimal software to download Canon PowerShot to Mac?
OK people, we have messages talking about several different concepts
here, and confusing them, and that's part of the reason there's no agreement. Some of you are talking about transfers where the Finder is involved, and some of you are talking about transfers that bypass the Finder. I own a Canon digital point-and-shoot and a Canon digital SLR. Here is how it works if you install NO Canon softwa A. Loading into iPhoto iPhoto recognizes Canons with no additional software because iPhoto has support for Canons built into it. This is in iPhoto, not in the Finder. iPhoto negotiates the USB transfer with the camera directly, bypassing the Finder. B. Loading into the Finder Canons generally do not support USB Mass Storage. (Many other camera brands such as Nikon provide an option.) If you plug in a Canon camera without any other software, it will not show up on the desktop as a drive. Without USB Mass Storage support, the camera does not know how to make itself show up as a drive, and so the Mac cannot directly negotiate the USB transfer with the camera. (An earlier post says that the Canon 350/Rebel XT does have a USB Mass Storage setting. I will have to try that on mine.) C. Loading into a card reader Canons work great with card readers because the camera is not involved. If you put a card from a Canon into a card reader, the Mac doesn't know it was a Canon. All it sees is a mounted volume with the JPEG or RAW format files on the card. OS X has built-in support for both JPEG and Canon RAW, so you see them as files in the Finder. D. Loading into Image Capture With the OS X Image Capture utility you can easily preview and select which photos to download, which is useful when you are keeping 287 photos on the card as a temporary backup and you only want the last 5 photos you shot this afternoon. (Last time I checked, iPhoto still is dumb enough to allow only an all-or-nothing download, which annoys my friends who use iPhoto. Let me know if this has changed.) Like iPhoto, Image Capture bypasses the Finder. If you want Image Capture to open instead of iPhoto when you plug in a camera or card, do it from Image Capture preferences. So please, before any of you puts forth an opinion about what does or does not happen with a camera, you must state which of the above transfer types you are talking about, because it changes the equation significantly. If you don't want to worry about software at all, use a card reader. Direct camera connections consume camera battery power, tie up the camera, and risk corrupting photos through USB transmission glitches (according to some photographers). Card readers preserve camera battery power, free up the camera, are not driver-dependent, and are seen by the OS as a simple file transfer. I don't see the lack of USB Mass Storage as much of a disadvantage for Canon because a card reader is better than a direct transfer anyway, and a card reader is already seen as a drive. Cosmik Debris wrote: I don't know what a Rebel is but the Powershot that we buy in this part of the world certainly just plug into the USB bus. The Mac recognises them with no other software required to load into iPhoto. |
#28
|
|||
|
|||
Minimal software to download Canon PowerShot to Mac?
In article .com,
"Paul" wrote: OK people, we have messages talking about several different concepts here, and confusing them, and that's part of the reason there's no agreement . . . . Here is how it works . . . THANK YOU!!! --The OP |
#29
|
|||
|
|||
Minimal software to download Canon PowerShot to Mac?
Thanks for the concise narrative. I've been following the thread and
even though I do not own a Canon, I use memory cards exclusively for exactly the reason(s) you describe. JT Paul wrote: OK people, we have messages talking about several different concepts here, and confusing them, and that's part of the reason there's no agreement. Some of you are talking about transfers where the Finder is involved, and some of you are talking about transfers that bypass the Finder. I own a Canon digital point-and-shoot and a Canon digital SLR. Here is how it works if you install NO Canon softwa A. Loading into iPhoto iPhoto recognizes Canons with no additional software because iPhoto has support for Canons built into it. This is in iPhoto, not in the Finder. iPhoto negotiates the USB transfer with the camera directly, bypassing the Finder. B. Loading into the Finder Canons generally do not support USB Mass Storage. (Many other camera brands such as Nikon provide an option.) If you plug in a Canon camera without any other software, it will not show up on the desktop as a drive. Without USB Mass Storage support, the camera does not know how to make itself show up as a drive, and so the Mac cannot directly negotiate the USB transfer with the camera. (An earlier post says that the Canon 350/Rebel XT does have a USB Mass Storage setting. I will have to try that on mine.) C. Loading into a card reader Canons work great with card readers because the camera is not involved. If you put a card from a Canon into a card reader, the Mac doesn't know it was a Canon. All it sees is a mounted volume with the JPEG or RAW format files on the card. OS X has built-in support for both JPEG and Canon RAW, so you see them as files in the Finder. D. Loading into Image Capture With the OS X Image Capture utility you can easily preview and select which photos to download, which is useful when you are keeping 287 photos on the card as a temporary backup and you only want the last 5 photos you shot this afternoon. (Last time I checked, iPhoto still is dumb enough to allow only an all-or-nothing download, which annoys my friends who use iPhoto. Let me know if this has changed.) Like iPhoto, Image Capture bypasses the Finder. If you want Image Capture to open instead of iPhoto when you plug in a camera or card, do it from Image Capture preferences. So please, before any of you puts forth an opinion about what does or does not happen with a camera, you must state which of the above transfer types you are talking about, because it changes the equation significantly. If you don't want to worry about software at all, use a card reader. Direct camera connections consume camera battery power, tie up the camera, and risk corrupting photos through USB transmission glitches (according to some photographers). Card readers preserve camera battery power, free up the camera, are not driver-dependent, and are seen by the OS as a simple file transfer. I don't see the lack of USB Mass Storage as much of a disadvantage for Canon because a card reader is better than a direct transfer anyway, and a card reader is already seen as a drive. Cosmik Debris wrote: I don't know what a Rebel is but the Powershot that we buy in this part of the world certainly just plug into the USB bus. The Mac recognises them with no other software required to load into iPhoto. |
#30
|
|||
|
|||
Minimal software to download Canon PowerShot to Mac?
I was interested in this topic as my daughter has been asking a similar
question about a Canon Digital Ixus 300 (about 5 years old) and her Windows XP laptop. Apparently it does not work as a standard USB drive, though my son says he used it that way (maybe he had some extra software?) We need to investigate when she returns from a trip away. Anyway, I just tried my new Ixy Digital 60 (Japanese model; same as Digital Ixus 65 and PowerShot SD630 Digital Elph) without any special Canon software on my Windows XP PC - and it works. One can just 'open' it from the Explorer or use the camera and scanner wizard. (The Canon CD has not been opened though I admit I have some Panasonic software from my other camera.) I think this proves that at least some Canon cameras support USB mass storage, but it's possible that not all do. So before Greg makes such a sweeping criticism, it might be more helpful and polite to be sure of his facts. Peter "G.T." wrote in message ... Erik Richard Sørensen wrote: Strange - I know a lot of people here, who are using Canon cameras - especially the EOSD and IXUS models. (Some IXUS models in Wurope are identical to some A-models in the US). _ALL_ of these just pop up as HDs when connected... Digital Rebels and Powershots don't do USB mass storage, I didn't think the other models did either. It's one of the lame things about Canons. I generally trust your posts but this is the second time you've spouted major, easy to check bull****. Greg |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Kodak Easyshare Software V6.01 download | AlanCB | Digital Photography | 19 | July 17th 06 10:35 PM |
Canon Easy PhotoPrint Software Download: Where, Please-Can't find on their site. | Robert11 | Digital Photography | 1 | June 7th 06 03:01 PM |
canon powershot a40 - software? | helenski | Digital SLR Cameras | 1 | March 10th 05 02:55 PM |
Can't download pictures using 20D and EOS Digital Software | Tim Bollup | Digital Photography | 2 | January 22nd 05 02:19 AM |
Powershot A75 download into Windows95 | Tom | Digital Photography | 1 | October 11th 04 07:14 AM |