Olympus shafts Dpreview!

Guess they saw the Canon bias too?

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0710/07101603olympuse3.asp

UPDATE: Phil: Here we are at one minute past embargo and despite being
told very clearly that there were no cameras available for preview we
see at least one other site with a hands-on preview, make of that what
you will.

On Oct 16, 6:24 pm, RichA wrote:
Guess they saw the Canon bias too?

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0710/07101603olympuse3.asp

UPDATE: Phil: Here we are at one minute past embargo and despite being
told very clearly that there were no cameras available for preview we
see at least one other site with a hands-on preview, make of that what
you will.

If Olympus did that on purpose, they might find they bit off a good
chunk of their own nose, your blather notwithstanding.

On Oct 16, 11:21 pm, Charlie Self wrote:
On Oct 16, 6:24 pm, RichA wrote:

Guess they saw the Canon bias too?

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0710/07101603olympuse3.asp

UPDATE: Phil: Here we are at one minute past embargo and despite being
told very clearly that there were no cameras available for preview we
see at least one other site with a hands-on preview, make of that what
you will.

If Olympus did that on purpose, they might find they bit off a good
chunk of their own nose, your blather notwithstanding.

Dpreview's problem is the same as some old photographers, they are too
myopic concerning some aspects of cameras and this effects their
review process which unfortunately, is often opinion-influenced. This
hits Olympus reviews because Olympus tends to be forward-thinking an
innovative, bringing out products with benefits that are not yet fully
appreciated.

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On Oct 16, 6:24 pm, RichA wrote:
Guess they saw the Canon bias too?

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0710/07101603olympuse3.asp

UPDATE: Phil: Here we are at one minute past embargo and despite being
told very clearly that there were no cameras available for preview we
see at least one other site with a hands-on preview, make of that what
you will.

If Olympus did that on purpose, they might find they bit off a good
chunk of their own nose, your blather notwithstanding.

"Frankly if Olympus carry on in the way they have for the last month or so
you'll be lucky to see a review here."

Phil Askey
Editor, dpreview.com

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...ssage=25235643

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On Oct 16, 6:24 pm, RichA wrote:
Guess they saw the Canon bias too?

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0710/07101603olympuse3.asp

UPDATE: Phil: Here we are at one minute past embargo and despite
being told very clearly that there were no cameras available for
preview we see at least one other site with a hands-on preview,
make of that what you will.

If Olympus did that on purpose, they might find they bit off a good
chunk of their own nose, your blather notwithstanding.

"Frankly if Olympus carry on in the way they have for the last month
or so you'll be lucky to see a review here."

Phil Askey
Editor, dpreview.com

Would you give a preview camera to a site where you felt you would get an
unfair review?

If D P Review fails to review the camera, whatever sulks are now in
effect, they are failing their readers.

David

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On Oct 16, 6:24 pm, RichA wrote:
Guess they saw the Canon bias too?

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0710/07101603olympuse3.asp

UPDATE: Phil: Here we are at one minute past embargo and despite
being told very clearly that there were no cameras available for
preview we see at least one other site with a hands-on preview,
make of that what you will.

If Olympus did that on purpose, they might find they bit off a good
chunk of their own nose, your blather notwithstanding.

"Frankly if Olympus carry on in the way they have for the last month
or so you'll be lucky to see a review here."

Phil Askey
Editor, dpreview.com

Would you give a preview camera to a site where you felt you would get an
unfair review?

did they ever do that ? If your answer is yes, can you tell us what are
those unfair reviews ?

Do you own a Olympus ?

I prefer to believe (like many others) that the E-3 is a piece of **** and
Olympus know it will get a bad review from any professionnals reviewers.

They prefer to have no serious reviews and let the fanboys jump on the new
toy.

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On Oct 16, 6:24 pm, RichA wrote:
Guess they saw the Canon bias too?

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0710/07101603olympuse3.asp

UPDATE: Phil: Here we are at one minute past embargo and despite
being told very clearly that there were no cameras available for
preview we see at least one other site with a hands-on preview,
make of that what you will.

If Olympus did that on purpose, they might find they bit off a good
chunk of their own nose, your blather notwithstanding.

"Frankly if Olympus carry on in the way they have for the last month
or so you'll be lucky to see a review here."

Phil Askey
Editor, dpreview.com

Would you give a preview camera to a site where you felt you would get an
unfair review?

did they ever do that ? If your answer is yes, can you tell us what are
those unfair reviews ?

Do you own a Olympus ?

I prefer to believe (like many others) that the E-3 is a piece of **** and
Olympus know it will get a bad review from any professionnals reviewers.
Obviously I have yet to see an E3, but at one stage I had an E1 through work
and it was an exceptionally good camera, and in some ways before it's time.
Unfortunately I think they kept it out too long, and by the time it went EOL
it was very dated. Unfortunately the consumer E300 that followed on from the
E1 was a POS.

They prefer to have no serious reviews and let the fanboys jump on the new
toy.
I'm not convinced any review on dpreview would be a fair review. They show a
clear bias toward Canon, which stands out like dog-balls (seems only Canon
fanboi's don't see it). There was recent discussion about a sony vs ixus
review on dpreview. The Sony images were sharper, had more detail, less
noise, yet dpreview initially claimed they were worse than the Canon. After
being taken to task over it, they modified the text to say they were
basically equal.

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On Oct 16, 6:24 pm, RichA wrote:
Guess they saw the Canon bias too?

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0710/07101603olympuse3.asp

UPDATE: Phil: Here we are at one minute past embargo and despite
being told very clearly that there were no cameras available for
preview we see at least one other site with a hands-on preview,
make of that what you will.

If Olympus did that on purpose, they might find they bit off a good
chunk of their own nose, your blather notwithstanding.

"Frankly if Olympus carry on in the way they have for the last month
or so you'll be lucky to see a review here."

Phil Askey
Editor, dpreview.com

Would you give a preview camera to a site where you felt you would get
an
unfair review?

did they ever do that ? If your answer is yes, can you tell us what are
those unfair reviews ?

Do you own a Olympus ?

I prefer to believe (like many others) that the E-3 is a piece of ****
and
Olympus know it will get a bad review from any professionnals reviewers.
Obviously I have yet to see an E3, but at one stage I had an E1 through
work
and it was an exceptionally good camera, and in some ways before it's
time.
Unfortunately I think they kept it out too long, and by the time it went
EOL
it was very dated. Unfortunately the consumer E300 that followed on from
the
E1 was a POS.

They prefer to have no serious reviews and let the fanboys jump on the
new
toy.
I'm not convinced any review on dpreview would be a fair review. They show
a
clear bias toward Canon, which stands out like dog-balls (seems only Canon
fanboi's don't see it). There was recent discussion about a sony vs ixus
review on dpreview. The Sony images were sharper, had more detail, less
noise, yet dpreview initially claimed they were worse than the Canon.
After
being taken to task over it, they modified the text to say they were
basically equal.

so your an Olympus fanboy who have 1 exemple to give ? lol

They prefer to have no serious reviews and let the fanboys jump on the
new
toy.
I'm not convinced any review on dpreview would be a fair review. They
show
a
clear bias toward Canon, which stands out like dog-balls (seems only
Canon
fanboi's don't see it). There was recent discussion about a sony vs ixus
review on dpreview. The Sony images were sharper, had more detail, less
noise, yet dpreview initially claimed they were worse than the Canon.
After
being taken to task over it, they modified the text to say they were
basically equal.

so your an Olympus fanboy who have 1 exemple to give ? lol



I am no Olympus fan but what Doug says about the Sony v Canon review is
completely true, I was quite amazed by the obvious bias. I have taken Phil
to task over other reviews and info that he just leaves off the list of
features to make cameras look worse than they should be, he is simply
dishonest and as Doug says only a Canon Fanboi would not see this. His
answer I guess is that the review is what he sees as the truth.

Cheers.

Pete

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On Oct 16, 6:24 pm, RichA wrote:
Guess they saw the Canon bias too?

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0710/07101603olympuse3.asp

UPDATE: Phil: Here we are at one minute past embargo and despite
being told very clearly that there were no cameras available for
preview we see at least one other site with a hands-on preview,
make of that what you will.

If Olympus did that on purpose, they might find they bit off a good
chunk of their own nose, your blather notwithstanding.

"Frankly if Olympus carry on in the way they have for the last month
or so you'll be lucky to see a review here."

Phil Askey
Editor, dpreview.com

Would you give a preview camera to a site where you felt you would get
an
unfair review?

did they ever do that ? If your answer is yes, can you tell us what are
those unfair reviews ?

Do you own a Olympus ?

I prefer to believe (like many others) that the E-3 is a piece of ****
and
Olympus know it will get a bad review from any professionnals
reviewers.
Obviously I have yet to see an E3, but at one stage I had an E1 through
work
and it was an exceptionally good camera, and in some ways before it's
time.
Unfortunately I think they kept it out too long, and by the time it went
EOL
it was very dated. Unfortunately the consumer E300 that followed on from
the
E1 was a POS.

They prefer to have no serious reviews and let the fanboys jump on the
new
toy.
I'm not convinced any review on dpreview would be a fair review. They
show
a
clear bias toward Canon, which stands out like dog-balls (seems only
Canon
fanboi's don't see it). There was recent discussion about a sony vs ixus
review on dpreview. The Sony images were sharper, had more detail, less
noise, yet dpreview initially claimed they were worse than the Canon.
After
being taken to task over it, they modified the text to say they were
basically equal.

so your an Olympus fanboy who have 1 exemple to give ? lol
I am no olympus fanboy. I wouldn't buy one myself because I don't see a
future in the 4/3 system and it will always be 1 step behind APS for noise
and/or resolution. But a few years back I had an E1 provided at work and
it was exceptionally good. It was replaced by an E300 and it was a POS. With
what I've seen of the E330, E500, E510 and E410 since, they have also failed
to impress me. The E3 could be good, but the 4/3 sensor will always put it
behind the 8-ball.
To be honest, I'd be surprised if the E3 is as good as a similar priced
current model Canon or Nikon. But the fact remains, it is unlikely to get a
fair review on dpreview. Dpreview's pro-canon bias is well-known.