D70 Nikon ccd tilted

Are you 100% sure it is the camera? I for one think Nikon Service (at least
in Melville) is the crapper of all factory service centers, but every
picture I take without careful use of a level is tilted because I have an
astigmatism - in fact when I try to compensate for it, things come out more
tilted - and this might be your problem too. Take a picture of a known level
edge (use a level to make sure) with a positively leveled camera and see
what you get.

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"MikeS" wrote in message
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I sent my D70 into Nikon services because the ccd was not fitted square.
I noticed this when I took some shots of my daughters post graduate work
to
reduce a A2 posters to A3 Or A4 I took them square on and through the view
finder they where square when I loaded them into my computer they where
tiltin down to the right slightly. I took the camers back to Nikon on the
18 /06/04 they told me it was ready to collect yesterday Thurday the 26th
July when I got there it wasnt ready. So had make another trip and
collected
it today. It still has a slight tilt. I phone to ask what they had done
and
I was told the ccd had been changed,
Correct me if I'm wrong shouldn't you get what you see in the view finder?
If when you take a picture of say a picture and you see it level then it
should be level when viewed on camera screen as well as monitor screen. I
was told you have to get it square, yes I go along with that but, even if
you where not square any straight line that you line up say with the top
or
bottom of screen should be square regardles of convergence elseware in the
picture. Am I right or am I right? what you see is what you get, bearing
in
mind most view finders only get 90% on the field of view.
MikeS

"David J Taylor"
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"MikeS" wrote in message
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Any chance that it is the viewfinder mask that isn't fitted square?
What
happens if you line up the body of the camera aginst an edge?

David

David,
It did occur to me when I first noticed it but the Nikon technician
decided
to change the ccd.
I'll try and set the camera up I have a spirit level my tripod but the
mounting bit can tilt and swivel so I need a spirit level on the base of
the
camera, I've got a small spirit level I use to level my caravan will
give it
a go with that. Its an issue but it can be corrected in Photoshop. A bit
of
a inconvenience.

MikeS

I was thinking of an alignment by eye, rather than spirit level. You must
have a straight edge in the house somewhere - window edge or something.
Set the camera up exactly in front of that edge, so that a line from the
lens to the edge is at 90 degrees, and then align the body by eye with the
edge. Look in the viewfinder and take a picture - see if either is
"correct".

Cheers,
David

yes thats how I took the picture of my daughters art work which is in A2
size formate naturaly one gets the image square in the view finder but, on
inspection when post prosessing in photoshop it was tilted.
MikeS

"Tony Spadaro" wrote in message
.com...
Are you 100% sure it is the camera? I for one think Nikon Service (at
least
in Melville) is the crapper of all factory service centers, but every
picture I take without careful use of a level is tilted because I have an
astigmatism - in fact when I try to compensate for it, things come out
more
It does not mater if you have an asigmatism if you frame a A3 or any
rectangle in the view finder and frame the A3 rectangle in the retangle of
the view finder at least one of the sides should be parallel MikeS

MikeS wrote:
I sent my D70 into Nikon services because the ccd was not fitted square.
I noticed this when I took some shots of my daughters post graduate work to
reduce a A2 posters to A3 Or A4 I took them square on and through the view
finder they where square when I loaded them into my computer they where
tiltin down to the right slightly. I took the camers back to Nikon on the
18 /06/04 they told me it was ready to collect yesterday Thurday the 26th
July when I got there it wasnt ready. So had make another trip and collected
it today. It still has a slight tilt. I phone to ask what they had done and
I was told the ccd had been changed,
Correct me if I'm wrong shouldn't you get what you see in the view finder?
If when you take a picture of say a picture and you see it level then it
should be level when viewed on camera screen as well as monitor screen. I
was told you have to get it square, yes I go along with that but, even if
you where not square any straight line that you line up say with the top or
bottom of screen should be square regardles of convergence elseware in the
picture. Am I right or am I right? what you see is what you get, bearing in
mind most view finders only get 90% on the field of view.

Happened to me with my first digital camera, an Olympus C1400. All
images would turn out tilted when framing with the optical viewfinder.

I then stopped using optical viewfinders and since then instead rely on
the LCD screen to frame. At least there is no tilted image.
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Alfred Molon wrote:
MikeS wrote:

I sent my D70 into Nikon services because the ccd was not fitted square.
I noticed this when I took some shots of my daughters post graduate work to
reduce a A2 posters to A3 Or A4 I took them square on and through the view
finder they where square when I loaded them into my computer they where
tiltin down to the right slightly. I took the camers back to Nikon on the
18 /06/04 they told me it was ready to collect yesterday Thurday the 26th
July when I got there it wasnt ready. So had make another trip and collected
it today. It still has a slight tilt. I phone to ask what they had done and
I was told the ccd had been changed,
Correct me if I'm wrong shouldn't you get what you see in the view finder?
If when you take a picture of say a picture and you see it level then it
should be level when viewed on camera screen as well as monitor screen. I
was told you have to get it square, yes I go along with that but, even if
you where not square any straight line that you line up say with the top or
bottom of screen should be square regardles of convergence elseware in the
picture. Am I right or am I right? what you see is what you get, bearing in
mind most view finders only get 90% on the field of view.


Happened to me with my first digital camera, an Olympus C1400. All
images would turn out tilted when framing with the optical viewfinder.

I then stopped using optical viewfinders and since then instead rely on
the LCD screen to frame. At least there is no tilted image.

dSLR VF is TTL: Should be no tilt unless focal plane is tilted or the
viewfinder pentamirror is somehow misaligned (not sure that's possible).

Phil

i second that sentiment that nikon melville sucks. i sent them a coolpix
with a lcd problem, waited 8 weeks to get it back, they said that they
replaced all sorts of parts, but the camera demonstrated exactly the same
problem it had when it first went to them... three months later, just
outside of the repair warranty preiod, the entire lcd failed. when i wrote
the president i was passed on to their legal department... you can't get
any lower that having your lawyer pretend to address customer satisfaction
issues.

"Tony Spadaro" wrote in message
.com...
Are you 100% sure it is the camera? I for one think Nikon Service (at
least
in Melville) is the crapper of all factory service centers, but every
picture I take without careful use of a level is tilted because I have an
astigmatism - in fact when I try to compensate for it, things come out
more
tilted - and this might be your problem too. Take a picture of a known
level
edge (use a level to make sure) with a positively leveled camera and see
what you get.

--
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home of The Camera-ist's Manifesto
The Improved Links Pages are at
http://www.chapelhillnoir.com/links/mlinks00.html
A sample chapter from my novel "Haight-Ashbury" is at
http://www.chapelhillnoir.com/writ/hait/hatitl.html
"MikeS" wrote in message
...
I sent my D70 into Nikon services because the ccd was not fitted square.
I noticed this when I took some shots of my daughters post graduate work
to
reduce a A2 posters to A3 Or A4 I took them square on and through the
view
finder they where square when I loaded them into my computer they where
tiltin down to the right slightly. I took the camers back to Nikon on
the
18 /06/04 they told me it was ready to collect yesterday Thurday the
26th
July when I got there it wasnt ready. So had make another trip and
collected
it today. It still has a slight tilt. I phone to ask what they had done
and
I was told the ccd had been changed,
Correct me if I'm wrong shouldn't you get what you see in the view
finder?
If when you take a picture of say a picture and you see it level then it
should be level when viewed on camera screen as well as monitor screen.
I
was told you have to get it square, yes I go along with that but, even
if
you where not square any straight line that you line up say with the
top
or
bottom of screen should be square regardles of convergence elseware in
the
picture. Am I right or am I right? what you see is what you get, bearing
in
mind most view finders only get 90% on the field of view.
MikeS

On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 17:45:16 GMT, "David J Taylor"
wrote:

"MikeS" wrote in message
...
[]
Any chance that it is the viewfinder mask that isn't fitted square?
What
happens if you line up the body of the camera aginst an edge?

David

David,
It did occur to me when I first noticed it but the Nikon technician
decided
to change the ccd.
I'll try and set the camera up I have a spirit level my tripod but the
mounting bit can tilt and swivel so I need a spirit level on the base of
the
camera, I've got a small spirit level I use to level my caravan will
give it
a go with that. Its an issue but it can be corrected in Photoshop. A bit
of
a inconvenience.

MikeS

I was thinking of an alignment by eye, rather than spirit level. You must
have a straight edge in the house somewhere - window edge or something.
Set the camera up exactly in front of that edge, so that a line from the
lens to the edge is at 90 degrees, and then align the body by eye with the
edge. Look in the viewfinder and take a picture - see if either is

Normally, to really check I take a spirit level across the hot shoe
and then use a 5 foot straight edge that is also leveled. The line
should match the top and bottom of the frame. If it does then images
of same should also match.

Pretty much like setting up for copies, or panoramas. I use a level.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com
"correct".

Cheers,
David

Snip Snip etc,
Thanks All,
I'll check the camera out using a spirit level on the top of the tripod, on
the bit that the camera is screwed onto, and check it out that way if it's a
problem Nikon get the camera back.
Thanks for your feed back MikeS

On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 08:35:11 GMT, "MikeS"
wrote:

Snip Snip etc,
Thanks All,
I'll check the camera out using a spirit level on the top of the tripod, on
the bit that the camera is screwed onto, and check it out that way if it's a
problem Nikon get the camera back.
Thanks for your feed back MikeS

Mine got confused at to what it was supposed to focus on. It'd get it
right about 20% of the time. OTOH I probably use manual at least 50%
of the time so I only lost 30%...if all that makes sense.

Actually my 24 to 120 lens quit focusing to infinity a couple weeks
back. So I sent that in. $240. Then about a week later the camera
got confused. So, it went in. If your time is typical I should have
it back in about another week...except for the holidays.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

"MikeS" wrote in message
...
I sent my D70 into Nikon services because the ccd was not fitted square.
I noticed this when I took some shots of my daughters post graduate work
to
reduce a A2 posters to A3 Or A4 I took them square on and through the view
finder they where square when I loaded them into my computer they where
tiltin down to the right slightly. I took the camers back to Nikon on the
18 /06/04 they told me it was ready to collect yesterday Thurday the 26th
July when I got there it wasnt ready. So had make another trip and
collected
it today. It still has a slight tilt. I phone to ask what they had done
and
I was told the ccd had been changed,
Snip Snip
To day I removed the lens and compared it to My film Nikon F50 and it looks
as though its the mirror on the D70 that's tilted. As you know the D70 has
assentric adjustment allen key nuts one for Auto and one Manual focus
adjustments when the mirror is down the reflection of the pentaprism
groundglass screen on my camera is tilted comparing it to the F50. On the
f50 the adjustment allen nuts are in the left looking into the mirror
assembly where as the D70 are on the right. I'm surprised that the
technician did not pick this up. because on reflection (sorry) is more
likley to be the penatprism or the Mirror miss-alignment than the CCD.
So its going back asap. Hopefully it will not take two weeks this time.
Perhaps it was suggesting that the CCD was tilted that threw the technician.
MikeS