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My X-T3 30fps Burst test
I tried out the X-T3 electronic shutter, 30fps burst with my local humming
birds. So here are a few SOOC unedited JPEGs, and a PDF showing the whole burst sequence. This makes capturing these hummers in flight so much easier. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/f531bwp4kai64ik/AABzywj8Hhrz4DNTG2aTFHSUa?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/oy2iuvkmy9opmmt/ES-30-Burst-.pdf?dl=0 -- Regards, Savageduck |
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My X-T3 30fps Burst test
In article .com,
Savageduck says... I tried out the X-T3 electronic shutter, 30fps burst with my local humming birds. So here are a few SOOC unedited JPEGs, and a PDF showing the whole burst sequence. This makes capturing these hummers in flight so much easier. Mine can do 60 fps, but in practice I've never used this feature. If you use it too much, you end up with lots of image files which you have to post-process. -- Alfred Molon Olympus E-series DSLRs and micro 4/3 forum at https://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MyOlympus/ https://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site |
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My X-T3 30fps Burst test
On Sep 28, 2018, Alfred Molon wrote
(in . com): In iganews.com, Savageduck says... I tried out the X-T3 electronic shutter, 30fps burst with my local humming birds. So here are a few SOOC unedited JPEGs, and a PDF showing the whole burst sequence. This makes capturing these hummers in flight so much easier. Mine can do 60 fps, but in practice I've never used this feature. If you use it too much, you end up with lots of image files which you have to post-process. Yup! With a tap on the shutter 57 frames for this experiment. All I can do is trust the SOOC JPEGs and use those for review, and rating/culling. Only import RAW files that are selected from the JPEG cull. All of the JPEGs I posted are SOOC, unadjusted/edited, no Post work involved other than rating, and exporting. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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My X-T3 30fps Burst test
On 29/09/2018 18:01, RichA wrote:
On Friday, 28 September 2018 15:02:57 UTC-4, Savageduck wrote: I tried out the X-T3 electronic shutter, 30fps burst with my local humming birds. So here are a few SOOC unedited JPEGs, and a PDF showing the whole burst sequence. This makes capturing these hummers in flight so much easier. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/f531bwp4kai64ik/AABzywj8Hhrz4DNTG2aTFHSUa?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/oy2iuvkmy9opmmt/ES-30-Burst-.pdf?dl=0 -- Regards, Savageduck This will be the transition point where full-resolution video will take over. Then, if still photography wants to remain relevant, they'll have to allow for even faster full-resolution fps speeds. I'm still not sure how the two differ except that with stills, you can control the shutter speed. Interesting to see that Duck wasn't freezing the wings, not sure whether from choice or necessity. (Someone posted a lovely hovering or landing finch shot over here in the UK in the last couple of days, where they had completely frozen the wings, I think without flash). |
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My X-T3 30fps Burst test
On Sep 29, 2018, RichA wrote
(in ): On Friday, 28 September 2018 15:02:57 UTC-4, Savageduck wrote: I tried out the X-T3 electronic shutter, 30fps burst with my local humming birds. So here are a few SOOC unedited JPEGs, and a PDF showing the whole burst sequence. This makes capturing these hummers in flight so much easier. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/f531bwp4kai64ik/AABzywj8Hhrz4DNTG2aTFHSUa?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/oy2iuvkmy9opmmt/ES-30-Burst-.pdf?dl=0 -- Regards, Savageduck This will be the transition point where full-resolution video will take over. Then, if still photography wants to remain relevant, they'll have to allow for even faster full-resolution fps speeds. I'm still not sure how the two differ except that with stills, you can control the shutter speed. All of this electronic shutter burst shot capability is due to much more powerful CPUs. As the CPUs become more powerful the potential to increase capture rate from 30fps to 60fps is very possible, but I just can’t see myself at a sporting event, or airshow where I might normally capture 300-1200 individual frames in several hours of shooting, capturing that many frames in a matter of seconds rather than hours. memory cards are going to fill quickly, far quicker than shooting video. So while it is nice to have the capability, I question the practicality for a photographer intent in shooting stills, and still capturing that decisive moment. You are going to have to differentiate between stills, and video when it comes to presentation intent. Then consider whether, or not you are shooting a massive burst to capture a moment in time, or to analyze a particular movement sequence. Both concepts are useful, but the hunt for the frame of the captured moment to edit in post for presentation has to be chosen from that burst of 30-100, or more frames. A veritable needle in the haystack, and then there is the possibility that you have captured nothing. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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My X-T3 30fps Burst test
On Sep 29, 2018, newshound wrote
(in articlewIWdnbmjauasKTLGnZ2dnUU78X_NnZ2d@brightvie w.co.uk): On 29/09/2018 18:01, RichA wrote: On Friday, 28 September 2018 15:02:57 UTC-4, Savageduck wrote: I tried out the X-T3 electronic shutter, 30fps burst with my local humming birds. So here are a few SOOC unedited JPEGs, and a PDF showing the whole burst sequence. This makes capturing these hummers in flight so much easier. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/f531bwp4kai64ik/AABzywj8Hhrz4DNTG2aTFHSUa?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/oy2iuvkmy9opmmt/ES-30-Burst-.pdf?dl=0 -- Regards, Savageduck This will be the transition point where full-resolution video will take over. Then, if still photography wants to remain relevant, they'll have to allow for even faster full-resolution fps speeds. I'm still not sure how the two differ except that with stills, you can control the shutter speed. Interesting to see that Duck wasn't freezing the wings, not sure whether from choice or necessity. (Someone posted a lovely hovering or landing finch shot over here in the UK in the last couple of days, where they had completely frozen the wings, I think without flash). Yup! Those were shot at 1/500, so it can be a matter of selecting the right frame with the wings in a particular position. To absolutely freeze a Hummingbird’s wings a faster shutter speed than 1/500 is needed, somewhere between 1/1000, and 1/2000. I’ll try that later today. In the meantime, here is another one from the 57 shot burst @ 1/500. https://www.dropbox.com/s/ob8lp5hsjo7wcts/DSCF0036c1.JPG?dl=0 -- Regards, Savageduck |
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My X-T3 30fps Burst test
On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 10:28:46 -0700, Savageduck
wrote: You are going to have to differentiate between stills, and video when it comes to presentation intent. Then consider whether, or not you are shooting a massive burst to capture a moment in time, or to analyze a particular movement sequence. Both concepts are useful, but the hunt for the frame of the captured moment to edit in post for presentation has to be chosen from that burst of 30-100, or more frames. A veritable needle in the haystack, and then there is the possibility that you have captured nothing. It should make it even more impressive that Eadweard Muybridge (Muggeridge) took photographs in 1887 that showed that a galloping horse does have all four hoofs off the ground at certain points. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eadweard_Muybridge Burst photography is often utilized by athletic coaches to evaluate an athlete's movements...a baseball pitcher's delivery, a quarterback's passing style, a golfer's swing, or a sprinter's take-off from the blocks. Those photos of a punter you posted might be used to point out needs for improvement. -- Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida |
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My X-T3 30fps Burst test
On Sep 29, 2018, Tony Cooper wrote
(in ): On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 10:28:46 -0700, Savageduck wrote: You are going to have to differentiate between stills, and video when it comes to presentation intent. Then consider whether, or not you are shooting a massive burst to capture a moment in time, or to analyze a particular movement sequence. Both concepts are useful, but the hunt for the frame of the captured moment to edit in post for presentation has to be chosen from that burst of 30-100, or more frames. A veritable needle in the haystack, and then there is the possibility that you have captured nothing. It should make it even more impressive that Eadweard Muybridge (Muggeridge) took photographs in 1887 that showed that a galloping horse does have all four hoofs off the ground at certain points. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eadweard_Muybridge Burst photography is often utilized by athletic coaches to evaluate an athlete's movements...a baseball pitcher's delivery, a quarterback's passing style, a golfer's swing, or a sprinter's take-off from the blocks. Those photos of a punter you posted might be used to point out needs for improvement. To all of the above I agree. For some there is going to be a need, and some will undoubtably find, or already have a purpose for shooting 30-100 frame bursts at such high frame rates. For me it is a novelty, and most of my action shooting is going to be in the 4-11fps range, if and when I use the burst mode at an event. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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My X-T3 30fps Burst test
On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 11:22:05 -0700, Savageduck
wrote: On Sep 29, 2018, Tony Cooper wrote (in ): On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 10:28:46 -0700, Savageduck wrote: You are going to have to differentiate between stills, and video when it comes to presentation intent. Then consider whether, or not you are shooting a massive burst to capture a moment in time, or to analyze a particular movement sequence. Both concepts are useful, but the hunt for the frame of the captured moment to edit in post for presentation has to be chosen from that burst of 30-100, or more frames. A veritable needle in the haystack, and then there is the possibility that you have captured nothing. It should make it even more impressive that Eadweard Muybridge (Muggeridge) took photographs in 1887 that showed that a galloping horse does have all four hoofs off the ground at certain points. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eadweard_Muybridge Burst photography is often utilized by athletic coaches to evaluate an athlete's movements...a baseball pitcher's delivery, a quarterback's passing style, a golfer's swing, or a sprinter's take-off from the blocks. Those photos of a punter you posted might be used to point out needs for improvement. To all of the above I agree. For some there is going to be a need, and some will undoubtably find, or already have a purpose for shooting 30-100 frame bursts at such high frame rates. For me it is a novelty, and most of my action shooting is going to be in the 4-11fps range, if and when I use the burst mode at an event. In your photos of race cars and bicycle racers you can pan. That doesn't work in football or baseball unless you are intending to produce an image where one figure is sharp and the rest are not. -- Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida |
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My X-T3 30fps Burst test
On Sep 29, 2018, Tony Cooper wrote
(in ): On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 11:22:05 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On Sep 29, 2018, Tony Cooper wrote (in ): On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 10:28:46 -0700, Savageduck wrote: You are going to have to differentiate between stills, and video when it comes to presentation intent. Then consider whether, or not you are shooting a massive burst to capture a moment in time, or to analyze a particular movement sequence. Both concepts are useful, but the hunt for the frame of the captured moment to edit in post for presentation has to be chosen from that burst of 30-100, or more frames. A veritable needle in the haystack, and then there is the possibility that you have captured nothing. It should make it even more impressive that Eadweard Muybridge (Muggeridge) took photographs in 1887 that showed that a galloping horse does have all four hoofs off the ground at certain points. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eadweard_Muybridge Burst photography is often utilized by athletic coaches to evaluate an athlete's movements...a baseball pitcher's delivery, a quarterback's passing style, a golfer's swing, or a sprinter's take-off from the blocks. Those photos of a punter you posted might be used to point out needs for improvement. To all of the above I agree. For some there is going to be a need, and some will undoubtably find, or already have a purpose for shooting 30-100 frame bursts at such high frame rates. For me it is a novelty, and most of my action shooting is going to be in the 4-11fps range, if and when I use the burst mode at an event. In your photos of race cars and bicycle racers you can pan. That doesn't work in football or baseball unless you are intending to produce an image where one figure is sharp and the rest are not. Yup! The issue remains, regardless of event the result will be hundreds, or thousands of frames to sort through, and rate/cull. The investment in time to deal with the selection process is going to be brain numbing. Then there is whatever you might care to do with actual processing. As I said, for me this is going to be bit of a novelty, and only used occasionally if I ever have that sort of need arise. Even then I have frame rates in CL of 3.0fps-5.7fps, Mechanical shutter CH frame rates of 8.0fps & 11fps before going to electronic shutter rates of 20fps, and with a 1.25X crop, 10fps, 20fps, or 30fps. I expanded my experiment this morning, and shot a 72 frame burst @ 30fps with the electronic shutter, but this time with the shutter speed at 1/2000 rather than the 1/500 of the first batch. Still SOOC JPEGs with no post adjustment other than the same synced crop applied to each of the selected 10 frames. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/wi6a2bu0lsewmx2/AACNdkrcs7bzsuPdmLcy9SGla?dl=0 -- Regards, Savageduck |
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