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February 23rd 10, 08:09 AM
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PMA a COMPLETE BUST!
Val Hallah wrote:
On Feb 23, 4:04 am, RichA wrote: P&S crap, mock-ups and endless "concepts" and vague promises. What a joke. Imagine going to a new auto show and finding out ALL the models were of last year's car!! Olympus sp800 looks great....out March 10th The price is right but think about holding a 30X zoom at arm's length because there is no EVF. :-( Bob Williams 
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#2
February 23rd 10, 11:34 AM
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PMA a COMPLETE BUST!
In rec.photo.digital Bob Williams wrote:
Val Hallah wrote: On Feb 23, 4:04 am, RichA wrote: P&S crap, mock-ups and endless "concepts" and vague promises. What a joke. Imagine going to a new auto show and finding out ALL the models were of last year's car!! Olympus sp800 looks great....out March 10th The price is right but think about holding a 30X zoom at arm's length because there is no EVF. :-( Congrats if you can hold an 800mm (35mm film equiv) lens steady while looking through a viewfinder! The camera has a tripod mount. Guess what it's for :-) -- Chris Malcolm
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#3
February 23rd 10, 11:53 PM
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PMA a COMPLETE BUST!
Val Hallah wrote:
Chris Malcolm wrote: Bob Williams wrote: Val Hallah wrote: RichA wrote: P&S crap, mock-ups and endless "concepts" and vague promises. What a joke. Imagine going to a new auto show and finding out ALL the models were of last year's car!! Olympus sp800 looks great....out March 10th The price is right but think about holding a 30X zoom at arm's length because there is no EVF. :-( Congrats if you can hold an 800mm (35mm film equiv) lens steady while looking through a viewfinder! The camera has a tripod mount. Guess what it's for :-) I do fine with a sp590 (676mm) http://www.flickr.com/photos/4073283...24734453/meta/ Looks good other than washed out but the largest available is a 5x reduction to 800 pixels from 3968 so it's not telling us anything. Assuming that's a 2x teleconverter...
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#4
February 24th 10, 04:35 PM
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PMA a COMPLETE BUST!
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 00:51:27 -0800 (PST), Val Hallah
wrote: On Feb 24, 12:53*am, Paul Furman wrote: Val Hallah wrote: Chris Malcolm wrote: Bob Williams wrote: Val Hallah wrote: RichA wrote: P&S crap, mock-ups and endless "concepts" and vague promises. *What a joke. *Imagine going to a new auto show and finding out ALL the models were of last year's car!! Olympus sp800 looks great....out March 10th The price is right but think about holding a 30X zoom at arm's length because there is no EVF. :-( Congrats if you can hold an 800mm (35mm film equiv) lens steady while looking through a viewfinder! The camera has a tripod mount. Guess what it's for :-) I do fine with a sp590 (676mm) http://www.flickr.com/photos/4073283...24734453/meta/ Looks good other than washed out but the largest available is a 5x reduction to 800 pixels from 3968 so it's not telling us anything. Assuming that's a 2x teleconverter... Olympus sp590uz...but there is no blurring http://www.flickr.com/photos/4143872...24849611/meta/ I think you need new glasses. Even at 800x600 with no pixel-peeping there's obvious blurring.
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#5
February 24th 10, 05:28 PM
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PMA a COMPLETE BUST!
Val Hallah wrote:
On Feb 24, 12:53 am, Paul wrote: Val Hallah wrote: Chris Malcolm wrote: Bob Williams wrote: Val Hallah wrote: RichA wrote: P&S crap, mock-ups and endless "concepts" and vague promises. What a joke. Imagine going to a new auto show and finding out ALL the models were of last year's car!! Olympus sp800 looks great....out March 10th The price is right but think about holding a 30X zoom at arm's length because there is no EVF. :-( Congrats if you can hold an 800mm (35mm film equiv) lens steady while looking through a viewfinder! The camera has a tripod mount. Guess what it's for :-) I do fine with a sp590 (676mm) http://www.flickr.com/photos/4073283...24734453/meta/ Looks good other than washed out but the largest available is a 5x reduction to 800 pixels from 3968 so it's not telling us anything. Assuming that's a 2x teleconverter... Olympus sp590uz...but there is no blurring There could be a 5-pixel shake but it would be invisible reduced like that. A crop? http://www.flickr.com/photos/4143872...24849611/meta/
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#6
February 24th 10, 06:26 PM
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PMA a COMPLETE BUST!
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 09:28:21 -0800, Paul Furman
wrote: Val Hallah wrote: On Feb 24, 12:53 am, Paul wrote: Val Hallah wrote: Chris Malcolm wrote: Bob Williams wrote: Val Hallah wrote: RichA wrote: P&S crap, mock-ups and endless "concepts" and vague promises. What a joke. Imagine going to a new auto show and finding out ALL the models were of last year's car!! Olympus sp800 looks great....out March 10th The price is right but think about holding a 30X zoom at arm's length because there is no EVF. :-( Congrats if you can hold an 800mm (35mm film equiv) lens steady while looking through a viewfinder! The camera has a tripod mount. Guess what it's for :-) I do fine with a sp590 (676mm) http://www.flickr.com/photos/4073283...24734453/meta/ Looks good other than washed out but the largest available is a 5x reduction to 800 pixels from 3968 so it's not telling us anything. Assuming that's a 2x teleconverter... Olympus sp590uz...but there is no blurring There could be a 5-pixel shake but it would be invisible reduced like that. A crop? A troll, actually. The infamous P&S Troll. Stick around a bit and you'll learn to recognize it. http://www.flickr.com/photos/4143872...24849611/meta/ He's broken pattern here, though, posting a flickr link that can be followed to the user. Probably not his photos, then, although a while back someone claimed to know who he was and named him. Anyone remember the name?
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#7
February 24th 10, 06:26 PM
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PMA a COMPLETE BUST!
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 13:26:15 -0500, John A. wrote:
Olympus sp590uz...but there is no blurring There could be a 5-pixel shake but it would be invisible reduced like that. A crop? A troll, actually. The infamous P&S Troll. Stick around a bit and you'll learn to recognize it. Val Hallah is NOT the P&S troll. -- Regards, Robert http://www.arumes.com
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#8
February 24th 10, 08:45 PM
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PMA a COMPLETE BUST!
Val Hallah wrote:
Paul Furman wrote: Val Hallah wrote: Paul Furman wrote: Val Hallah wrote: Chris Malcolm wrote: Bob Williams wrote: Val Hallah wrote: RichA wrote: P&S crap, mock-ups and endless "concepts" and vague promises. What a joke. Imagine going to a new auto show and finding out ALL the models were of last year's car!! Olympus sp800 looks great....out March 10th The price is right but think about holding a 30X zoom at arm's length because there is no EVF. :-( Congrats if you can hold an 800mm (35mm film equiv) lens steady while looking through a viewfinder! The camera has a tripod mount. Guess what it's for :-) I do fine with a sp590 (676mm) http://www.flickr.com/photos/4073283...24734453/meta/ Looks good other than washed out but the largest available is a 5x reduction to 800 pixels from 3968 so it's not telling us anything. Assuming that's a 2x teleconverter... Olympus sp590uz...but there is no blurring There could be a 5-pixel shake but it would be invisible reduced like that. A crop? http://www.flickr.com/photos/4143872...24849611/meta/ would you like me to upload the full file ? Sure. Sorry I didn't intend to pick on you, the troll got me riled on this issue. A reduced image does not really say anything though.
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#9
February 24th 10, 11:08 PM
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PMA a COMPLETE BUST!
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 12:45:24 -0800, Paul Furman
wrote: Val Hallah wrote: Paul Furman wrote: Val Hallah wrote: Paul Furman wrote: Val Hallah wrote: Chris Malcolm wrote: Bob Williams wrote: Val Hallah wrote: RichA wrote: P&S crap, mock-ups and endless "concepts" and vague promises. What a joke. Imagine going to a new auto show and finding out ALL the models were of last year's car!! Olympus sp800 looks great....out March 10th The price is right but think about holding a 30X zoom at arm's length because there is no EVF. :-( Congrats if you can hold an 800mm (35mm film equiv) lens steady while looking through a viewfinder! The camera has a tripod mount. Guess what it's for :-) I do fine with a sp590 (676mm) http://www.flickr.com/photos/4073283...24734453/meta/ Looks good other than washed out but the largest available is a 5x reduction to 800 pixels from 3968 so it's not telling us anything. Assuming that's a 2x teleconverter... Olympus sp590uz...but there is no blurring There could be a 5-pixel shake but it would be invisible reduced like that. A crop? http://www.flickr.com/photos/4143872...24849611/meta/ would you like me to upload the full file ? Sure. Sorry I didn't intend to pick on you, the troll got me riled on this issue. A reduced image does not really say anything though. The only thing that riled you in that downsized flying beetle image is that full size or downsize, neither matters in that image because the content alone is unexplainable for what it is proving to you in that teeny tiny inexperienced and ignorant snapshooter's DSLR-TROLL mind of yours.
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#10
March 2nd 10, 04:14 PM
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PMA a COMPLETE BUST!
Val Hallah wrote:
Paul Furman wrote: Val Hallah wrote: Paul Furman wrote: Val Hallah wrote: Paul Furman wrote: Val Hallah wrote: Chris Malcolm wrote: Bob Williams wrote: Val Hallah wrote: RichA wrote: P&S crap, mock-ups and endless "concepts" and vague promises. What a joke. Imagine going to a new auto show and finding out ALL the models were of last year's car!! Olympus sp800 looks great....out March 10th The price is right but think about holding a 30X zoom at arm's length because there is no EVF. :-( Congrats if you can hold an 800mm (35mm film equiv) lens steady while looking through a viewfinder! The camera has a tripod mount. Guess what it's for :-) I do fine with a sp590 (676mm) http://www.flickr.com/photos/4073283...24734453/meta/ Looks good other than washed out but the largest available is a 5x reduction to 800 pixels from 3968 so it's not telling us anything. Assuming that's a 2x teleconverter... Olympus sp590uz...but there is no blurring There could be a 5-pixel shake but it would be invisible reduced like that. A crop? http://www.flickr.com/photos/4143872...24849611/meta/ would you like me to upload the full file ? Sure. Sorry I didn't intend to pick on you, the troll got me riled on this issue. A reduced image does not really say anything though. et viola! http://www.flickr.com/photos/41438729@N05/4400738576/ Better, although that's still a 4x reduction.
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