Snapshots of Afghanistan - August 2009

"Savageduck" wrote in message
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On 2009-08-29 23:19:25 -0700, "Bill Graham" said:


"Bob Larter" wrote in message
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I'd come off as less of an idiot to you were I to read and accept your
propaganda, that's for sure........I am sorry to inform you that I get
my information from other sources.

Yeah, like Faux News.

It beats the fawning idolatry of Brian Williams. Check out Glen Beck, If
you're interested in our progress toward socialism.

Glen Beck!!??
...and your alternative is Brian Williams?
Oh Bill! It is so sad to finally understand the reason for the astonishing
level of bitterness you hold for the World and your fellow US citizens.
Glen Beck has told you who to blame, and it is everybody but GWB and
Murdock.
I guess it is far too late to let you know there are other far more
reliable, and less biased sources of information than Fnews and most of
what the networks sell (though occasionally they are able to come close to
getting to the truth.)

Funny.....I listen to what is said, and not who is saying it. Beck comes
through to me loud and clear, and in spades. How about telling me where he
is wrong, instead of castigating his character? Or, do you even hear what he
is saying?

"Ray Fischer" wrote in message
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Walter Banks wrote:
Bill Graham wrote:

I could personally care less about them or that part of
the world. I never sent anyone over there to kill 3000 innocent people,
There is no one on my block here in Oregon that is training to go
anywhere
to kill civilians, and never has been.

Many more than 3000 innocent people have been killed
since 911 in the name of WTC revenge.

Probably accidentally, but you left off two zeros.

Which killer should I
be most concerned about the one who killed first or the one who
killed the most.

In the case of Bush, it's both.

Who do you blame for the Marine barracks? Or how about the USS Cole, Bush?
Suck it up whiner, your main man is in the white house.

"DRS" wrote in message
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"Bill Graham" wrote in message


[...]

would be shouting "Sig Heil" about now........G. Patton was right. We
should have taken over the whole world in 1945. Millions of people
would be alive today that have either starved to death, or been
killed by tyrants since then.

Patton was a self-aggrandising idiot. The Soviets would have creamed the
Allies in 1945. The only areas in which the Allies were superior to the
Soviets were logistics, artillery and communications. The Soviet airforce
was qualitatively and quantitatively as good as ours and their heavy
armour was to ours as a Hummer is to a Mini. They had more seasoned
combat troops too.

Of course, that begs the question of just why a liberal democracy would
want to "take over the world" anyway.

1. You are wrong, and G. Patton knew it at the time, or he wouldn't have
recommended it.
2. "Liberal Democracy" all right......You sure nailed that one OK.

"Walter Banks" wrote in message
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Bill Graham wrote:

I could personally care less about them or that part of
the world. I never sent anyone over there to kill 3000 innocent people,
There is no one on my block here in Oregon that is training to go
anywhere
to kill civilians, and never has been.

Many more than 3000 innocent people have been killed
since 911 in the name of WTC revenge. Which killer should I
be most concerned about the one who killed first or the one who
killed the most.



How about the one who targeted innocent civilians like the ones who happened
to be in those twin towers? Civilians have always been killed in the wars of
mankind, but even the Japanese in WW-II didn't target them at Pearl
Harbor......they confined their attack to the military ships, and not
downtown Honolulu.

"Savageduck" wrote in message
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On 2009-08-29 22:02:27 -0700, "Bill Graham" said:


"Chris H" wrote in message
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So it has taken over 8 years so far and the current word from the US
commanders is "at best we can draw but not win"


That's OK with me.....Better over there than over here.....And now, we
are using robot airplanes, which we can control from here in the US, so
there is no risk to our guys at all!

...and yet more die. Check our combat deaths for July & August.

Hey! - Give us a little more time.....Our technology is improving.

"J. Clarke" wrote in message
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Savageduck wrote:
On 2009-08-29 22:02:27 -0700, "Bill Graham" said:


"Chris H" wrote in message
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So it has taken over 8 years so far and the current word from the US
commanders is "at best we can draw but not win"


That's OK with me.....Better over there than over here.....And now,
we are using robot airplanes, which we can control from here in the
US, so there is no risk to our guys at all!

...and yet more die. Check our combat deaths for July & August.

You'd be happier if they got hit by a drunk driver on the way home from
work?

Yes.....During the first Gulf war, they estimated that more of our troops
would have died had they stayed home and driven around drunk from party's on
Saturday night.....I think the deaths in Afghanistan are comparable......

"Annika1980" wrote in message
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On Aug 30, 1:02 am, "Bill Graham" wrote:

That's OK with me.....Better over there than over here.....And now, we are
using robot airplanes, which we can control from here in the US, so there
is
no risk to our guys at all!

Yeah, that sounds great. Now what happens in a few years if China or
Iraq or Iran gets these drone aircraft and decides to fly them over
our country? Heck, it doesn't even have to be a foreign country ...
it could be some well-funded paramilitary group.

Yes.....It's a dangerous world. - And getting more and more dangerous all
the time, as the technology advances. Yet another reason why we should have
followed Patton's advice....

"mikey4" wrote in message
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"Annika1980" wrote in message
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On Aug 30, 1:02 am, "Bill Graham" wrote:

That's OK with me.....Better over there than over here.....And now, we
are
using robot airplanes, which we can control from here in the US, so there
is
no risk to our guys at all!

Yeah, that sounds great. Now what happens in a few years if China or
Iraq or Iran gets these drone aircraft and decides to fly them over
our country? Heck, it doesn't even have to be a foreign country ...
it could be some well-funded paramilitary group.

You hope our air defences are good enough to see them coming.

There's no reason why we couldn't use these drones in air-to-air
combat.....Beats using real pilots who can get killed. Maybe we could just
have a "robot war" over the ocean somewhere.....Or, (better yet) on the
Moon.

"Chris H" wrote in message
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I have no communist friends.. --


Better take a second look. Try defining them by their beliefs.......

On 2009-08-30 13:18:21 -0700, "Bill Graham" said:


"Savageduck" wrote in message
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On 2009-08-29 23:19:25 -0700, "Bill Graham" said:


"Bob Larter" wrote in message
...
I'd come off as less of an idiot to you were I to read and accept your
propaganda, that's for sure........I am sorry to inform you that I get
my information from other sources.

Yeah, like Faux News.

It beats the fawning idolatry of Brian Williams. Check out Glen Beck,
If you're interested in our progress toward socialism.

Glen Beck!!??
...and your alternative is Brian Williams?
Oh Bill! It is so sad to finally understand the reason for the
astonishing level of bitterness you hold for the World and your fellow
US citizens. Glen Beck has told you who to blame, and it is everybody
but GWB and Murdock.
I guess it is far too late to let you know there are other far more
reliable, and less biased sources of information than Fnews and most of
what the networks sell (though occasionally they are able to come close
to getting to the truth.)

Funny.....I listen to what is said, and not who is saying it. Beck
comes through to me loud and clear, and in spades. How about telling me
where he is wrong, instead of castigating his character? Or, do you
even hear what he is saying?

I gave up listening to Fox News for the desperate sometime ago, in much
the same way I don't listen to Limbaugh or Savage, all provide
"unbalanced" misinformation, and as such their characters are as
questionable and unreliable as their reportage.

--
Regards,

Savageduck