HP OfficeJet 145 Black/color ink old. 8 days to expire. Printing will stop.

Anthony Matonak wrote:

The Real Bev wrote:
...
A third failure mode: consider a photo of a flat wall lit from one
end. The wall will shade evenly from light to dark across the picture,
right? That's what happens most of the time. Every once in a while,
such a picture will exhibit stair-stepped blocks of color, as if the
resolution were suddenly cut to 1/4 or 1/8 the proper value. Especially
annoying when it's a person's face instead of a smooth wall or the sky.
A second attempt at printing the same picture may or may not print
properly. Likewise with the purple banding. All intermittent.
...

It's called posterization. It happens when you decrease the number of
colors. Sounds like time to write the printer off as a lost cause and
find something that works reliably.

What really bothers me is that HP is supposed to be the gold standard.
This printer was $300 or so when she bought it a couple of years ago.
Everybody is always happy with HP and says they're reliable. So how
come she got so unlucky? The previous one just stopped working a few
months out of warranty.

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On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 22:54:23 -0700, The Real Bev
wrote:

What really bothers me is that HP is supposed to be the gold standard.
This printer was $300 or so when she bought it a couple of years ago.
Everybody is always happy with HP and says they're reliable. So how
come she got so unlucky? The previous one just stopped working a few
months out of warranty.

Sometimes you get a 'dog' as it were. Perfectly good manufacturers
make a batch of machines that fail. I have noticed however, that HP's
manufacturing quality has been declining over the last few years.

What are you choices? Brother, Canon, Epson, Lexmark and one or two
others? I have had misery with Epson (besides their truly irritating
tendancy to spend a whole minute clunking and whirring when switched
on), and Lexmark.

The ink running out thing is a pshychological ruse to make you go and
buy more ink. I have a deskjet 960c and it bitched at me for 6 months!
before the ink ran out, and it worked 100% all that time with moderate
use.

Use BLACKLIST to automatically shut down the error message window.

SteveJ

Steve J wrote:

On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 22:54:23 -0700, The Real Bev
wrote:


What really bothers me is that HP is supposed to be the gold standard.
This printer was $300 or so when she bought it a couple of years ago.
Everybody is always happy with HP and says they're reliable. So how
come she got so unlucky? The previous one just stopped working a few
months out of warranty.


Sometimes you get a 'dog' as it were. Perfectly good manufacturers
make a batch of machines that fail. I have noticed however, that HP's
manufacturing quality has been declining over the last few years.

What are you choices? Brother, Canon, Epson, Lexmark and one or two
others? I have had misery with Epson (besides their truly irritating
tendancy to spend a whole minute clunking and whirring when switched
on), and Lexmark.

The ink running out thing is a pshychological ruse to make you go and
buy more ink. I have a deskjet 960c and it bitched at me for 6 months!
before the ink ran out, and it worked 100% all that time with moderate
use.

Use BLACKLIST to automatically shut down the error message window.

if color isnt a necessity, i bought a samsung laser printer at sams for
$98. fires right up, no ink to dry out, no nozzles to clog, no program
telling me i need to buy another overpriced cartridge. and supposedly
the "starter" toner cart it came with is good for 1200 pages, more than
ill do in 5 years. replacement carts are supposedly good for 5000 pages.
and all carts are *supposedly* refillable. even if not, a new cart is
$80- the same price as a couple ink carts.

On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 20:42:54 GMT, SoCalMike
wrote:



Steve J wrote:

On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 22:54:23 -0700, The Real Bev
wrote:


What really bothers me is that HP is supposed to be the gold standard.
This printer was $300 or so when she bought it a couple of years ago.
Everybody is always happy with HP and says they're reliable. So how
come she got so unlucky? The previous one just stopped working a few
months out of warranty.


Sometimes you get a 'dog' as it were. Perfectly good manufacturers
make a batch of machines that fail. I have noticed however, that HP's
manufacturing quality has been declining over the last few years.

What are you choices? Brother, Canon, Epson, Lexmark and one or two
others? I have had misery with Epson (besides their truly irritating
tendancy to spend a whole minute clunking and whirring when switched
on), and Lexmark.

The ink running out thing is a pshychological ruse to make you go and
buy more ink. I have a deskjet 960c and it bitched at me for 6 months!
before the ink ran out, and it worked 100% all that time with moderate
use.

Use BLACKLIST to automatically shut down the error message window.

if color isnt a necessity, i bought a samsung laser printer at sams for
$98. fires right up, no ink to dry out, no nozzles to clog, no program
telling me i need to buy another overpriced cartridge. and supposedly
the "starter" toner cart it came with is good for 1200 pages, more than
ill do in 5 years. replacement carts are supposedly good for 5000 pages.
and all carts are *supposedly* refillable. even if not, a new cart is
$80- the same price as a couple ink carts.

Couldn't agree more. After fighting my 3rd POS inkjet printer buying
ridiculously priced cartriges and learning the messy art of filling
them, I gave up on color to get a cheap laser printer. Now I get page
after page after page of cheap troublefree pages.

On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 20:42:54 GMT, SoCalMike
wrote:



Steve J wrote:

On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 22:54:23 -0700, The Real Bev
wrote:


What really bothers me is that HP is supposed to be the gold standard.
This printer was $300 or so when she bought it a couple of years ago.
Everybody is always happy with HP and says they're reliable. So how
come she got so unlucky? The previous one just stopped working a few
months out of warranty.


Sometimes you get a 'dog' as it were. Perfectly good manufacturers
make a batch of machines that fail. I have noticed however, that HP's
manufacturing quality has been declining over the last few years.

What are you choices? Brother, Canon, Epson, Lexmark and one or two
others? I have had misery with Epson (besides their truly irritating
tendancy to spend a whole minute clunking and whirring when switched
on), and Lexmark.

The ink running out thing is a pshychological ruse to make you go and
buy more ink. I have a deskjet 960c and it bitched at me for 6 months!
before the ink ran out, and it worked 100% all that time with moderate
use.

Use BLACKLIST to automatically shut down the error message window.

if color isnt a necessity, i bought a samsung laser printer at sams for
$98. fires right up, no ink to dry out, no nozzles to clog, no program
telling me i need to buy another overpriced cartridge. and supposedly
the "starter" toner cart it came with is good for 1200 pages, more than
ill do in 5 years. replacement carts are supposedly good for 5000 pages.
and all carts are *supposedly* refillable. even if not, a new cart is
$80- the same price as a couple ink carts.

Couldn't agree more. After fighting my 3rd POS inkjet printer buying
ridiculously priced cartriges and learning the messy art of filling
them, I gave up on color to get a cheap laser printer. Now I get page
after page after page of cheap troublefree pages.

if color isnt a necessity, i bought a samsung laser printer at sams for
$98. fires right up, no ink to dry out, no nozzles to clog, no program
telling me i need to buy another overpriced cartridge. and supposedly
the "starter" toner cart it came with is good for 1200 pages, more than
ill do in 5 years. replacement carts are supposedly good for 5000 pages.
and all carts are *supposedly* refillable. even if not, a new cart is
$80- the same price as a couple ink carts.


Couldn't agree more. After fighting my 3rd POS inkjet printer buying
ridiculously priced cartriges and learning the messy art of filling
them, I gave up on color to get a cheap laser printer. Now I get page
after page after page of cheap troublefree pages.

i see inkjets dying a slow death, market-wise. companies have milked the
refill costs for all theyre worth.

On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 21:06:44 -0700, "Bob Headrick" wrote:

the expiration is enforced to protect the
printhead.


bull


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On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 21:06:44 -0700, "Bob Headrick" wrote:

the expiration is enforced to protect the
printhead.


bull


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On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 21:06:44 -0700, "Bob Headrick" wrote:

If you do not print much
you should probably get a different printer. The PSC 2210 or 2410 or Officejet
6110 may be a better fit for your needs.

Regards,
Bob Headrick, not speaking for my employer HP


HP sucks, and they lie to their employees and their customers.
My scanner (Photosmart S20) supposedly supports Windows 2000, but it broke
when I udated with SP4. HP tech support ws clueless about this - at first I
thought the hardware was going south - turns out it is the crappy drvers. It
works fine in Windows98 SE.
What irks me is: they flat out lied about OS support.

Oh yeah, I still have an old deskjet too, and the NT drivers are crap. I
have to buy and install third party software, like fine-print, in oorder to
realize the same functionality that WAS there with Win95/98, under NT4/2k/XP


Screw them. Screw them and their lies, and their inconsistent, buggy
engineering. I'll buy Epson from now on.
I have less sympathy for their employees than I do for burger-flippers.

They DID make good some calculators, back in the '70s - I'll give them credit
for that.

For more on the subject, see:
http://tinyurl.com/5vmcq



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On 11 Jul 2004 11:05:08 -0700, (Toni Tagalario) wrote:

Does anyone know if setting the printer date to the past will solve the
users' problem? Is it easy or hard to set the printer date back a year?

Two approaches will easily defeat almost any HP ink expiry date.
1) Cycle 3 HP c501x ink cartridges (even epired cartridges work well).
2) Remove the CMOS battery from the MPU board; short; reinstall.

3) Reverse-engineer, patch, and recompile the driver. ;-


The first method entails momentarily replacing the existing expiring
HP c5010 & c5011 officejet d145 ink cartridges with an existing ink
cartridge (this second HP ink cartridge can be expired or not); then
cycling the power on the Hewlett Packard Office Jet d145 all-in-one
printer. Repeat with a third HP c5011 & c5010 ink cartridge (expired
or not). Replace the original after the obligatory cycling of the
power on the HP OfficeJet d145 all-in-one printer.

Too much monkey business. Patching DLLs is more fun, anyway. ;-)

That stuff about print heads being destroyed by running out of ink is
pure unadulterated HP FUD (hey, he filled the ink - it never ran the
ink dry so dry print heads is not of concern in this excellent ng
thread).

I concur.
It is a marketing ploy.
I guess the "logic" is : user can afford high end printer = user can afford
to waste ink at his/her own expense. Manufacturer is happy to sell more ink.

I've been refilling _deskjet_ cartridges for years, and they have integral
print heads!



The second method entals repairing the HP Office Jet d145 printer by
removing the restriction on date altogether. Simply disconnect the MPU
board CMOS battery (just remove it from the clips momentarily); short
the terminals of the MPU board battery connector (with the 120v power
off, of course); then re-connect.

The HP OfficeJet d145 boot-up sequence (which normally occurs only at
the factory) will go through a series of questions such as:
- What is the current date & time?
(change it by a year or two but not three!)
- How many sheets of paper for the B&W ink low-ink message?
- How many sheets of paper for the color ink low-ink message?

Chop! I love it!
Beats hacking code, too!



This proves HP is counting paper sheets - not ink drops or ink
levels!.

These methods have worked for thousands of successful HP printer
homeowners to eliminate the Hewlett Packard illegal restriction on
refilling HP printer ink cartridges. They will work for you too!


Recorded and noted.
This article will be saved to text file
(and printed on my my 7-year-old Deskjet). g



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wide-open at throttle dot info

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The time to repair the roof is when the sun is shining
- JFK
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