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Definition of Public Space
On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 09:03:23 -0000, "M.I.5¾"
wrote: "Alex Heney" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 18:17:51 -0000, "Leroy" wrote: I apologise if this has been asked before, but just out of interest, what it the definition of a public place/space? It depends on the purpose/activity. There is no single overriding definition. I am thinking that streets, roads, public parks are defined as public space, however a shopping centre/superstore isn't because it's privately owned. Am I correct in saying this? Although, what about a pub (public house), even though it maybe privately owned, it is a public place and is open to the general public, hence the name. What is the activity you are interested in? Just a shot in the dark, but since this was cross posted from rec.photo.digital, I would say photography was a fair bet. Could be :-) -- Alex Heney, Global Villager Committees keep minutes and lose hours. To reply by email, my address is alexATheneyDOTplusDOTcom |
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Definition of Public Space
"Floyd L. Davidson" wrote in message ... The public has access to private businesses, but that is emphatically *not* a "public" area. It pretty much has to be owned by the "public" as well as open to the public. Hence, government owned. -- Floyd L. Davidson http://www.apaflo.com/floyd_davidson Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) es; Which jurisdiction are you talking about? UK (England, Scotland, N.Ireland) or US? |
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Definition of Public Space
In message , Floyd L. Davidson
writes "Just Another Digital Fan" wrote: Leroy wrote: I am thinking that streets, roads, public parks are defined as public space, however a shopping centre/superstore isn't because it's privately owned. Am I correct in saying this? No! Any area that the public has access to is public space. That includes Tescos etc. The public has access to private businesses, but that is emphatically *not* a "public" area. It pretty much has to be owned by the "public" as well as open to the public. Hence, government owned. Once, I had an annoying loudspeaker shut down in a public place, even though the place was privately owned. Mike -- M.J.Powell |
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Definition of Public Space
M.I.5¾ wrote:
Here you go http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_place Not acceptable as an authoratative source on anything. And USENET newsgroups are? -- As a child my family's menu consisted of two choices: "Take it, or leave it." /\ /\ /\ / / \/ \ u e e n / \/ a w a z anl |
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Definition of Public Space
Cheers Bill, that makes sense.
"Bill" wrote in message .. . "Leroy" wrote in message ... I apologise if this has been asked before, but just out of interest, what it the definition of a public place/space? It depends on the laws of your country. But for the purpose of photography, any place where you have no expectancy of privacy, is generally considered to be a public place and you are generally within your rights and freedom to take photographs of the people and places. Expectancy of privacy means you can not expect to maintain a sense of private conditions. You can and will be viewed by other members of the public. As an example, if you're sitting in a restaurant having dinner, you can not expect the people beside you to not hear or listen in to your conversations, or observe what you're eating for dinner, or notice with whom you are sharing your table. In your own home, you do have an expectancy of privacy. Anyone who impedes or otherwise invades that privacy is probably breaking privacy laws. I am thinking that streets, roads, public parks are defined as public space, however a shopping centre/superstore isn't because it's privately owned. Am I correct in saying this? A shopping centre is generally considerd a public place because you have no expectancy of privacy. But the property can be privately owned and you can be subject to the owners wishes. If you want to take casual photos of people in a mall, that's usually not an issue. But if someone complains to the management who are representatives of the owner, they can tell you to stop or tell you to leave the premises. You do not have the right to dispute when on private property. Note however if someone does approach you in a mall, tactful explanation of what you're doing will usually be accepted and you may be able to continue. So if security asks what you're doing, and you tell the guard to "get lost", you can expect to be told to leave or even forceably removed. But if you tell security that you're taking photos for a business report, activity center of a local paper with credentials, or of your daughter running around in a Halloween costume in the mall, chances are good you will be allowed to continue. Don't be stupid and you'll usually be free to shoot as much as you want. Although, what about a pub (public house), even though it maybe privately owned, it is a public place and is open to the general public, hence the name. Same as any other place that is privately owned. But once again, how you go about it will greatly affect how successful you are at getting the photos you want. |
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Definition of Public Space
"Mueen Nawaz" wrote in message ... M.I.5¾ wrote: Here you go http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_place Not acceptable as an authoratative source on anything. And USENET newsgroups are? Nobody has made that claim. |
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