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Why Are Lecia 6MP cameras so damn Expensive?
What is the differences between the Panasonic and Leica models? Does
Panasonic rebadge their cameras, or does Leica rebadge? Or does Panasonic supply the bodies and use Leica lenses? Does Leica have more features? I don't understand. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Leica may have had some hand in the design of the lenses, but absolutely no part whatsoever in the design or manufacture of the cameras. It is said that the software and firmware are a bit different, but except for the M8, a Leica is a Panasonic in every regard. EQR |
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Why Are Lecia 6MP cameras so damn Expensive?
On 2008-03-29 09:23:08 -0700, Chris Savage
said: On 2008-03-29, C J Campbell wrote: Panasonic owns Leica. Really? When did that happen? I know Matsu****a/Panasonic has licences to the Leica brand, and Leica Camera AG are permanently on the verge of liquidation, but I don't remember any announcement of a Matsu****a takeover. You are correct. The largest shareholder of Leica is an investment group run by an Austrian family. It is a licensing arrangement. -- Waddling Eagle World Famous Flight Instructor |
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Why Are Lecia 6MP cameras so damn Expensive?
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What does Leica have that nobody else does? Name? Gary Edstrom wrote: The Name Leica earned that name starting as early as 1913 when Leitz produced the first practical 35 mm camera, the Leica. Leitz created the 24mm x 36mm size for 35 mm cameras using 35mm cinema film. The compact size and excellent lenses on Leica's made them unique and also made Leitz change its name to Leica in 1986. By the early 1930's Leica had interchangeable lenses in rangefinder cameras. They had shutter speeds from 1/1000 to 1 second. Nothing else came close to a Leica. In the 1950's Leica had combined the rangefinder and lens into one unit with a bayonet mount. This basic design survived up through the 2003 model. In 2006 Leica released a digital successor to its popular and highly successful film cameras. However, it is so sensitive to infrared light that it needs an infrared filter under certain circumstances. Leica also mass produced SLRs starting in the 1960s. In the 1970s electronic SLRs were introduced in conjunction with Minolta. By the 1990s Leica was designing and producing their own SLRs. But they never occupied the unique position of the highly successful Leica rangefinder cameras though they shared the same excellent lenses. The Leica SLRs were just as big and clumsy as the popular Japanese models. In the 1970s, Leica briefly joined with Minolta to also produce a more compact rangefinder camera. It used some Minolta made lenses, but could also use most all of the M-series Leitz lenses. The Leica rangefinder cameras occupy a unique position in the history of cameras with unique quality and performance. This reputation is so strong that the new MP camera is designed to resemble the original the earliest M-series Leicas. Leica innovations include: The present 35 mm film standard Range finder camera with interchangeable lenses Aspheric lenses Multicoated lenses Rare earth lenses One of the first SLR's (1935) Excellent performance at large apertures for low light photography The first combination film & digital SLRs Several companies tried to imitate Leica but were never successful. The original Leica digital cameras were rebranded Fujifilm models. Today they are rebranded Panasonic Lumix models. Panasonic has reciprocated by using many Leica lenses on their top of the line cameras. This collaboration has improved both companies products. -- Pardon my spam deterrent; send email to Cheers, Steve Henning in Reading, PA USA - http://rhodyman.net |
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Why Are Lecia 6MP cameras so damn Expensive?
"Stephen Henning" wrote in message news wrote: Several companies tried to imitate Leica but were never successful. The original Leica digital cameras were rebranded Fujifilm models. Today they are rebranded Panasonic Lumix models. Panasonic has reciprocated by using many Leica lenses on their top of the line cameras. This collaboration has improved both companies products. Agreed that Leica has a rich history, but that doesn't change the fact that you're paying for almost nothing on their digitals that are rebadged Pannys save for an extended warranty. Doubtful it's worth the money. |
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Why Are Lecia 6MP cameras so damn Expensive?
Stephen Henning wrote:
snip Leica innovations include: The present 35 mm film standard Not quite true, there was at least one comercially available still camera which used 35mm film and used the 24x36mm format before the Leiz Leica camera. The first patent for one was issued to Leo, Audobard and Baradat in England in 1908. Range finder camera with interchangeable lenses In 1923. Developed similtaniously by Zeiss Ikon and realeased as the Contax camera. Aspheric lenses Pentax, with the Asahi SMC Takumar 15 mm f/3.5, in 1975. Multicoated lenses That would be Pentax again with SMC 1971. Rare earth lenses The Soviets beat Leica to the punch with that, several of the Zavod Arsnel cameras came with rare-earth lenses during WWII. One of the first SLR's (1935) You meant the Visoflex I, didn't you? A clunky attachment to a Leica II which turns it into a primitive SLR camera. So what? Zeiss Ikon also had the Flekstopp attachment for their Contax II for use with an 18cm lens. The first comercially avaivable SLR camera was made by Ihagee, the Kine-Exakta in 1936. The first "modern" SLR camera with pentaprism eye-level viewfinder was the Contax S, in 1949. Excellent performance at large apertures for low light photography Canon f1:0.95 5cm lens for their RF camera the "Canon 7" in 1961. The first combination film & digital SLRs No, that would be Kodak with their DCS line of digital backs for Nikon starting with the Kodak DCS-100 in 1991, for the Nikon FM3. Several companies tried to imitate Leica but were never successful. Several companies have overtaken Leica. Ihagee - with the Kine-Exakta (the first comercially available SLR camera) in 1936 Pentax - with SMC lens coatings in 1971 Pentax (again) - Aspheric lenses in 1975 Kodak - the Kodak DCS (or DCS-100) in 1991, the first digital back to fit an SLR camera (the Nikon FM3). Canon - the first true Digital SLR, the D30 in 2000. There are many, many more which I really can't be bothered digging up to throw at you. |
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Allen wrote:
dj_nme wrote: Stephen Henning wrote: snip Leica innovations include: The present 35 mm film standard Not quite true, snip Ihagee - with the Kine-Exakta (the first comercially available SLR camera) in 1936 You need to change that to first commercially available _35mm_ SLR camera. Don't forget that the Graflex and other cut-film SLRs had been around a few decades before the Kine-Exakta. Allen Yes, that's 100 percent true. Graflex SLR cameras were using 120 rollfilm in the 1920's, I have two of the early ones with a matching rollfilm holders. The "Adoration of the Leica" which Gary wrote was all about 35mm film camera developments, and so were my responses with firsts which weren't by Leiz Optical. |
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Why Are Lecia 6MP cameras so damn Expensive?
dj_nme wrote:
snip! The "Adoration of the Leica" which Gary wrote was all about 35mm film camera developments, and so were my responses with firsts which weren't by Leiz Optical. Cry havoc! and unleash the dogs of war! |
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Why Are Lecia 6MP cameras so damn Expensive?
I own a Exakta - Warex from Ihagee. With the lens. I want to sell it.
Like new camera. All is technically and optically okay. van Allen napsal(a): dj_nme wrote: Stephen Henning wrote: snip Leica innovations include: The present 35 mm film standard Not quite true, snip Ihagee - with the Kine-Exakta (the first comercially available SLR camera) in 1936 You need to change that to first commercially available _35mm_ SLR camera. Don't forget that the Graflex and other cut-film SLRs had been around a few decades before the Kine-Exakta. Allen |
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