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  #22  
Old October 20th 04, 04:44 PM
Jeremy
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"Böwsér" wrote in message
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Right. Bill, I live in the US, and we can't police ourselves. I see that
every day. So maybe you're right, if we can't police ourselves, someone

else
should do it for us.

BTW, the only time in history what you describe has ever happened is on
Dumbya's watch.


You need to brush up on your world history. Muslims have been waging war
and murdering non-Muslims for 1400 years. They nearly overran Europe, until
the Austrian army routed them out and kicked them back into Turkey. And
Sing Ferdinand and Queen Isabella of Spain (the ones that gave 3 boats to a
guy named Columbus . . . ) kicked them across the Strait of Gibraltar back
into Africa, when they tried to take over Spain.

President John Quincy Adams, our 6th President, knew something of Jihad, as
evidenced by this quote:

"The precept of the Koran is, perpetual war against all who deny, that
Mahomet is the prophet of God. The vanquished may purchase their lives,
by the payment of tribute; the victorious may be appeased by a false and
delusive promise of peace; and the faithful follower of the prophet, may
submit to the imperious necessities of defeat: but the command to
propagate the Moslem creed by the sword is always obligatory, when it
can be made effective. The commands of the prophet may be performed
alike, by fraud, or by force.

Of Mahometan good faith, we have had memorable examples ourselves. When
our gallant [Stephen] Decatur had chastised the pirate of Algiers, till
he was ready to renounce his claim of tribute from the United States,
he signed a treaty to that effect: but the treaty was drawn up in the
Arabic language, as well as in our own; and our negotiators,
unacquainted with the language of the Koran, signed the copies of the
treaty, in both languages, not imagining that there was any difference
between them. Within a year the Dey demands, under penalty of the
renewal of the war, an indemnity in money for the frigate taken by
Decatur; our Consul demands the foundation of this pretension; and the
Arabic copy of the treaty, signed by himself is produced, with an
article stipulating the indemnity, foisted into it, in direct
opposition to the treaty as it had been concluded."

Everywhere Muslims go they bring war, terror and murder, all to advance
their agenda of forcing all people to convert. I am not making this
up--just go to your public library and read some history.

For all his deficiencies, Bush did not create this problem.


  #23  
Old October 20th 04, 04:44 PM
Jeremy
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"Böwsér" wrote in message
news:vesdd.216574$wV.167376@attbi_s54...

Right. Bill, I live in the US, and we can't police ourselves. I see that
every day. So maybe you're right, if we can't police ourselves, someone

else
should do it for us.

BTW, the only time in history what you describe has ever happened is on
Dumbya's watch.


You need to brush up on your world history. Muslims have been waging war
and murdering non-Muslims for 1400 years. They nearly overran Europe, until
the Austrian army routed them out and kicked them back into Turkey. And
Sing Ferdinand and Queen Isabella of Spain (the ones that gave 3 boats to a
guy named Columbus . . . ) kicked them across the Strait of Gibraltar back
into Africa, when they tried to take over Spain.

President John Quincy Adams, our 6th President, knew something of Jihad, as
evidenced by this quote:

"The precept of the Koran is, perpetual war against all who deny, that
Mahomet is the prophet of God. The vanquished may purchase their lives,
by the payment of tribute; the victorious may be appeased by a false and
delusive promise of peace; and the faithful follower of the prophet, may
submit to the imperious necessities of defeat: but the command to
propagate the Moslem creed by the sword is always obligatory, when it
can be made effective. The commands of the prophet may be performed
alike, by fraud, or by force.

Of Mahometan good faith, we have had memorable examples ourselves. When
our gallant [Stephen] Decatur had chastised the pirate of Algiers, till
he was ready to renounce his claim of tribute from the United States,
he signed a treaty to that effect: but the treaty was drawn up in the
Arabic language, as well as in our own; and our negotiators,
unacquainted with the language of the Koran, signed the copies of the
treaty, in both languages, not imagining that there was any difference
between them. Within a year the Dey demands, under penalty of the
renewal of the war, an indemnity in money for the frigate taken by
Decatur; our Consul demands the foundation of this pretension; and the
Arabic copy of the treaty, signed by himself is produced, with an
article stipulating the indemnity, foisted into it, in direct
opposition to the treaty as it had been concluded."

Everywhere Muslims go they bring war, terror and murder, all to advance
their agenda of forcing all people to convert. I am not making this
up--just go to your public library and read some history.

For all his deficiencies, Bush did not create this problem.


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Old October 20th 04, 08:40 PM
David Starr
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On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 11:46:35 GMT, "Böwsér" wrote:


Right. Bill, I live in the US, and we can't police ourselves. I see that
every day. So maybe you're right, if we can't police ourselves, someone else
should do it for us.

BTW, the only time in history what you describe has ever happened is on
Dumbya's watch. maybe it's because he was on vacation for 42% of the time
during the months leading up to 9/11. Yes, he wasn't even on the job.


The FIRST attack on the WTC occured while Slick Willie was busy
playing hide the cigar.


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Old October 20th 04, 08:40 PM
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On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 11:46:35 GMT, "Böwsér" wrote:


Right. Bill, I live in the US, and we can't police ourselves. I see that
every day. So maybe you're right, if we can't police ourselves, someone else
should do it for us.

BTW, the only time in history what you describe has ever happened is on
Dumbya's watch. maybe it's because he was on vacation for 42% of the time
during the months leading up to 9/11. Yes, he wasn't even on the job.


The FIRST attack on the WTC occured while Slick Willie was busy
playing hide the cigar.


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  #26  
Old October 20th 04, 09:10 PM
Böwzér
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"Jeremy" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Böwsér" wrote in message
news:vesdd.216574$wV.167376@attbi_s54...

Right. Bill, I live in the US, and we can't police ourselves. I see that
every day. So maybe you're right, if we can't police ourselves, someone

else
should do it for us.

BTW, the only time in history what you describe has ever happened is on
Dumbya's watch.


You need to brush up on your world history. Muslims have been waging war
and murdering non-Muslims for 1400 years. They nearly overran Europe,
until
the Austrian army routed them out and kicked them back into Turkey. And
Sing Ferdinand and Queen Isabella of Spain (the ones that gave 3 boats to
a
guy named Columbus . . . ) kicked them across the Strait of Gibraltar back
into Africa, when they tried to take over Spain.


I meant for the US. We've never suffered an attack like that in our recent
history. Bush was asleep at the switch, and we paid for it.


President John Quincy Adams, our 6th President, knew something of Jihad,
as
evidenced by this quote:

"The precept of the Koran is, perpetual war against all who deny, that
Mahomet is the prophet of God. The vanquished may purchase their lives,
by the payment of tribute; the victorious may be appeased by a false and
delusive promise of peace; and the faithful follower of the prophet, may
submit to the imperious necessities of defeat: but the command to
propagate the Moslem creed by the sword is always obligatory, when it
can be made effective. The commands of the prophet may be performed
alike, by fraud, or by force.

Of Mahometan good faith, we have had memorable examples ourselves. When
our gallant [Stephen] Decatur had chastised the pirate of Algiers, till
he was ready to renounce his claim of tribute from the United States,
he signed a treaty to that effect: but the treaty was drawn up in the
Arabic language, as well as in our own; and our negotiators,
unacquainted with the language of the Koran, signed the copies of the
treaty, in both languages, not imagining that there was any difference
between them. Within a year the Dey demands, under penalty of the
renewal of the war, an indemnity in money for the frigate taken by
Decatur; our Consul demands the foundation of this pretension; and the
Arabic copy of the treaty, signed by himself is produced, with an
article stipulating the indemnity, foisted into it, in direct
opposition to the treaty as it had been concluded."

Everywhere Muslims go they bring war, terror and murder, all to advance
their agenda of forcing all people to convert. I am not making this
up--just go to your public library and read some history.

For all his deficiencies, Bush did not create this problem.




  #27  
Old October 20th 04, 09:10 PM
Böwzér
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"Jeremy" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Böwsér" wrote in message
news:vesdd.216574$wV.167376@attbi_s54...

Right. Bill, I live in the US, and we can't police ourselves. I see that
every day. So maybe you're right, if we can't police ourselves, someone

else
should do it for us.

BTW, the only time in history what you describe has ever happened is on
Dumbya's watch.


You need to brush up on your world history. Muslims have been waging war
and murdering non-Muslims for 1400 years. They nearly overran Europe,
until
the Austrian army routed them out and kicked them back into Turkey. And
Sing Ferdinand and Queen Isabella of Spain (the ones that gave 3 boats to
a
guy named Columbus . . . ) kicked them across the Strait of Gibraltar back
into Africa, when they tried to take over Spain.


I meant for the US. We've never suffered an attack like that in our recent
history. Bush was asleep at the switch, and we paid for it.


President John Quincy Adams, our 6th President, knew something of Jihad,
as
evidenced by this quote:

"The precept of the Koran is, perpetual war against all who deny, that
Mahomet is the prophet of God. The vanquished may purchase their lives,
by the payment of tribute; the victorious may be appeased by a false and
delusive promise of peace; and the faithful follower of the prophet, may
submit to the imperious necessities of defeat: but the command to
propagate the Moslem creed by the sword is always obligatory, when it
can be made effective. The commands of the prophet may be performed
alike, by fraud, or by force.

Of Mahometan good faith, we have had memorable examples ourselves. When
our gallant [Stephen] Decatur had chastised the pirate of Algiers, till
he was ready to renounce his claim of tribute from the United States,
he signed a treaty to that effect: but the treaty was drawn up in the
Arabic language, as well as in our own; and our negotiators,
unacquainted with the language of the Koran, signed the copies of the
treaty, in both languages, not imagining that there was any difference
between them. Within a year the Dey demands, under penalty of the
renewal of the war, an indemnity in money for the frigate taken by
Decatur; our Consul demands the foundation of this pretension; and the
Arabic copy of the treaty, signed by himself is produced, with an
article stipulating the indemnity, foisted into it, in direct
opposition to the treaty as it had been concluded."

Everywhere Muslims go they bring war, terror and murder, all to advance
their agenda of forcing all people to convert. I am not making this
up--just go to your public library and read some history.

For all his deficiencies, Bush did not create this problem.




  #28  
Old October 20th 04, 09:10 PM
Böwzér
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"Jeremy" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Böwsér" wrote in message
news:vesdd.216574$wV.167376@attbi_s54...

Right. Bill, I live in the US, and we can't police ourselves. I see that
every day. So maybe you're right, if we can't police ourselves, someone

else
should do it for us.

BTW, the only time in history what you describe has ever happened is on
Dumbya's watch.


You need to brush up on your world history. Muslims have been waging war
and murdering non-Muslims for 1400 years. They nearly overran Europe,
until
the Austrian army routed them out and kicked them back into Turkey. And
Sing Ferdinand and Queen Isabella of Spain (the ones that gave 3 boats to
a
guy named Columbus . . . ) kicked them across the Strait of Gibraltar back
into Africa, when they tried to take over Spain.


I meant for the US. We've never suffered an attack like that in our recent
history. Bush was asleep at the switch, and we paid for it.


President John Quincy Adams, our 6th President, knew something of Jihad,
as
evidenced by this quote:

"The precept of the Koran is, perpetual war against all who deny, that
Mahomet is the prophet of God. The vanquished may purchase their lives,
by the payment of tribute; the victorious may be appeased by a false and
delusive promise of peace; and the faithful follower of the prophet, may
submit to the imperious necessities of defeat: but the command to
propagate the Moslem creed by the sword is always obligatory, when it
can be made effective. The commands of the prophet may be performed
alike, by fraud, or by force.

Of Mahometan good faith, we have had memorable examples ourselves. When
our gallant [Stephen] Decatur had chastised the pirate of Algiers, till
he was ready to renounce his claim of tribute from the United States,
he signed a treaty to that effect: but the treaty was drawn up in the
Arabic language, as well as in our own; and our negotiators,
unacquainted with the language of the Koran, signed the copies of the
treaty, in both languages, not imagining that there was any difference
between them. Within a year the Dey demands, under penalty of the
renewal of the war, an indemnity in money for the frigate taken by
Decatur; our Consul demands the foundation of this pretension; and the
Arabic copy of the treaty, signed by himself is produced, with an
article stipulating the indemnity, foisted into it, in direct
opposition to the treaty as it had been concluded."

Everywhere Muslims go they bring war, terror and murder, all to advance
their agenda of forcing all people to convert. I am not making this
up--just go to your public library and read some history.

For all his deficiencies, Bush did not create this problem.




  #29  
Old October 20th 04, 09:12 PM
Böwzér
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"David Starr" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 11:46:35 GMT, "Böwsér" wrote:


Right. Bill, I live in the US, and we can't police ourselves. I see that
every day. So maybe you're right, if we can't police ourselves, someone
else
should do it for us.

BTW, the only time in history what you describe has ever happened is on
Dumbya's watch. maybe it's because he was on vacation for 42% of the time
during the months leading up to 9/11. Yes, he wasn't even on the job.


The FIRST attack on the WTC occured while Slick Willie was busy
playing hide the cigar.


Which was small potatoes compared to the attack during Dumbya's watch,
wasn't it?



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Old October 20th 04, 09:12 PM
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"David Starr" wrote in message
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On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 11:46:35 GMT, "Böwsér" wrote:


Right. Bill, I live in the US, and we can't police ourselves. I see that
every day. So maybe you're right, if we can't police ourselves, someone
else
should do it for us.

BTW, the only time in history what you describe has ever happened is on
Dumbya's watch. maybe it's because he was on vacation for 42% of the time
during the months leading up to 9/11. Yes, he wasn't even on the job.


The FIRST attack on the WTC occured while Slick Willie was busy
playing hide the cigar.


Which was small potatoes compared to the attack during Dumbya's watch,
wasn't it?



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