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Returned from Borneo trip
I've returned from Borneo and have done an initial trawl of my images
and put them online he www.metalvortex.com/myphotos/boa/ I might need to spend a bit of time on some photos to remove a bit of noise but, overall, I'm fairly happy with the results. In terms of camera equipment, you'll probably guess that I had a new toy...a Canon 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro which arrived a day before I flew out so I had a bit of a learning curve to go through on the strengths and weaknesses of that lens and figuring out how to best use it. It was fun but very frustrating especially if I hadn't taken a tripod out on a particular trek with me. The depth of field was very small on some of those shots and the slightest breeze would throw a shot out of focus. Well, you learn by doing as they say! I had a "Bear Grills" jacket which I pressed into using as a camera-jacket but on a few occasions when leaning down taking macro shots my 70-300m f4-5.6 IS USM lens would slide out of the pocket and drop onto the muddy jungle floor (that lens needs a proper cleaning!). I think that I need a proper camera-jacket with pockets deep enough to fully secure longish telephoto lenses. Any recommendations? I hardly ever used my 10-22mm f3.5-4.5 USM EF-S. So really I was mostly swapping between the 100mm macro and the 70-300mm telephoto. I left the following lenses at home: 16-35mm f2.8 L USM 28-135mm f3.5-5.6 IS USM 70-200m f2.8 L IS USM I also left my Epson P5000 at home and instead relied on a bunch of CF cards. I really did want to travel light! It was quite dark in the forested areas and I had to go to ISO 400 or even ISO 800 on some occasions. Very difficult lighting conditions especially if you're traveling light and don't have a lot of time to set up for a camera shot. And with leeches crawling over your body your mind tends to concentrate on getting the job done quickly! It was very wet and we had a lot of rain even though we were at the end of the rainy season. So I used floats-bags to keep my equipment dry in my backpack, which was especially useful when crossing rivers waist-deep. Also when I had my camera out around my neck in the jungle I attached a small float-bag on the camera-strap and used it like a waterproof cover for when the rains came, so the camera was still accessible. I almost wished that I had taken a waterproof camera housing so that I could have taken some shots from the raft when white-water rafting. Or perhaps I should have used an additional but smaller camera for use within the raft? OK, back home, I've image-processed now using a 90 cd/m2 instead of the 190 cd/m2 used for the Antarctica photos. I hope that the picture don't look too dark now, but I do recognise that I still prefer dark images! I'd probably need to ramp up the curves on some shots but let me think about that for a while as I get to know the images and figure out what I'm trying to convey. Regards, -- Kulvinder Singh Matharu Website : www.MetalVortex.com Contact : www.MetalVortex.com/contact Blog : www.MetalVortex.com/blog Experimental : www.NinjaTrek.com Brain! Brain! What is brain?! |
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Kulvinder Singh Matharu wrote: I've returned from Borneo and have done an initial trawl of my images and put them online he www.metalvortex.com/myphotos/boa/ A lot of very good stuff there and elsewhere on your site. You do a bit of traveling, don't you. ;-) HFL -- Change hlockwood to hflockwood in email address |
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In article , Kulvinder Singh
Matharu says... I've returned from Borneo and have done an initial trawl of my images and put them online he www.metalvortex.com/myphotos/boa/ Thanks for sharing the photos. As usual your photos are too dark. See for instance this image: http://www.metalvortex.com/myphotos/boa/footbridge.htm The histogram ends at 200 and beyond 128 there is very little image content. Most of the image brightness values are squeezed between 0 and 128. Same for this image, where the histogram abruptly ends at 200: http://www.metalvortex.com/myphotos/boa/guitar.htm He http://www.metalvortex.com/myphotos/boa/boat.htm the histogram ends again at 200 but has its peak around 0, which means that there are large aread of solid 0,0,0 black in the image with no detail. You seem to like darkness. Here is another example: http://www.metalvortex.com/myphotos/boa/leaf_6.htm Here the histogram even ends at 160. I suppose you shoot RAW. Try adjusting the black point and the brightness so that all brightness values are inside the image and nothing is cut off, neither at the dark not at the bright end. -- Alfred Molon ------------------------------ Olympus 50X0, 8080, E3X0, E4X0, E5X0 and E3 forum at http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MyOlympus/ http://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site |
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Alfred Molon wrote:
In article , Kulvinder Singh Matharu says... I've returned from Borneo and have done an initial trawl of my images and put them online he www.metalvortex.com/myphotos/boa/ Thanks for sharing the photos. As usual your photos are too dark. [] I agree. David |
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"Kulvinder Singh Matharu" wrote in message ... On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 17:01:08 GMT, "Dudley Hanks" wrote: [snip] I tend to like dark images as well. They are actually fairly difficult to shoot, and it is often hard to resist simply making the subject brighter in order to draw attention to it. Nice Work, Dudley Thanks. It is a difficult balance to achieve. It's funny, when I had my monitor luminance at 190 cd/m2 people said that my Antarctica images were too dark (it was assumed that these people were operating at around 90 cd/m2). I've now processed the Borneo pictures using monitor luminance at 90 cd/m2 and people are still finding the images too dark. I thank that just shows that "dark" is my thing. The interesting thing is that most people like the images "as is" and I've also had no complaints on the prints that I've done. So it must be rather subjective and some people prefer bright and others dark. But I like to experiment and may even ask people to compare images. I may post the results here. With Photoshop, it's so easy to vary the image from completely black to completely washed out white, that almost any original exposure is adequate for the task.......Unlike the slide film that I use, it would seem that worrying about the original exposure is almost a complete waste of time when shooting digital.....I have taken a whole group of photos sent to me by a friend on disk, and completely reworked them to dig the details out of the shadows without blowing any of the highlights using my CS2 program. |
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On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 20:35:54 +0200, Alfred Molon
wrote: [snip] Thanks for sharing the photos. As usual your photos are too dark. See for instance this image: http://www.metalvortex.com/myphotos/boa/footbridge.htm I know what you're saying but I was using a monitor at 90 cd/m2 and that matches my prints very well. I just like dark. Also, most people are using LCDs at 200 cd/m2 or above and they're not really motivated to turn down the luminance on their monitors despite any instructions from myself, so they're going to see nice bright images. For example, at work, checking people's monitors and my images all looked fine and there were no complaints on darkness. I almost think of this as a compromise in terms of me preferring darker images and most people seeing brighter images on their newer LCD monitors. For printing, I can apply a Curves adjustment layer if required to suit taste. What I might do, is perhaps increase brightness as an experiment and see what that looks like on other people's monitors. Thanks for the comments as I'm always looking at improving. -- Kulvinder Singh Matharu Website : www.MetalVortex.com Contact : www.MetalVortex.com/contact Blog : www.MetalVortex.com/blog Experimental : www.NinjaTrek.com Brain! Brain! What is brain?! |
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"Kulvinder Singh Matharu" wrote in message ... On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 20:35:54 +0200, Alfred Molon wrote: [snip] Thanks for sharing the photos. As usual your photos are too dark. See for instance this image: http://www.metalvortex.com/myphotos/boa/footbridge.htm I know what you're saying but I was using a monitor at 90 cd/m2 and that matches my prints very well. I just like dark. Also, most people are using LCDs at 200 cd/m2 or above and they're not really motivated to turn down the luminance on their monitors despite any instructions from myself, so they're going to see nice bright images. For example, at work, checking people's monitors and my images all looked fine and there were no complaints on darkness. I almost think of this as a compromise in terms of me preferring darker images and most people seeing brighter images on their newer LCD monitors. For printing, I can apply a Curves adjustment layer if required to suit taste. What I might do, is perhaps increase brightness as an experiment and see what that looks like on other people's monitors. Thanks for the comments as I'm always looking at improving. -- Kulvinder Singh Matharu I tend to like dark images as well. They are actually fairly difficult to shoot, and it is often hard to resist simply making the subject brighter in order to draw attention to it. Nice Work, Dudley |
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On 2008-04-01 11:35:54 -0700, Alfred Molon said:
In article , Kulvinder Singh Matharu says... I've returned from Borneo and have done an initial trawl of my images and put them online he www.metalvortex.com/myphotos/boa/ Thanks for sharing the photos. As usual your photos are too dark. See for instance this image: http://www.metalvortex.com/myphotos/boa/footbridge.htm The histogram ends at 200 and beyond 128 there is very little image content. Most of the image brightness values are squeezed between 0 and 128. Histogram my ass. Now I've seen it all. We're basing the subjective quality of pictures based on the quantitative analysis of the histogram? Have you people forgotten that photography is an art? Just because it's digital doesn't mean it needs to be looked at as a science. -- thepixelfreak |
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thepixelfreak wrote in news:2008040211202616807%not@dotcom:
www.metalvortex.com/myphotos/boa/ I liked them! Some I might have shot differently, but I think it show very good use of black. There is one or two that seem a bit dark to me, but not greatly. John Passaneau |
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On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 17:01:08 GMT, "Dudley Hanks"
wrote: [snip] I tend to like dark images as well. They are actually fairly difficult to shoot, and it is often hard to resist simply making the subject brighter in order to draw attention to it. Nice Work, Dudley Thanks. It is a difficult balance to achieve. It's funny, when I had my monitor luminance at 190 cd/m2 people said that my Antarctica images were too dark (it was assumed that these people were operating at around 90 cd/m2). I've now processed the Borneo pictures using monitor luminance at 90 cd/m2 and people are still finding the images too dark. I thank that just shows that "dark" is my thing. The interesting thing is that most people like the images "as is" and I've also had no complaints on the prints that I've done. So it must be rather subjective and some people prefer bright and others dark. But I like to experiment and may even ask people to compare images. I may post the results here. -- Kulvinder Singh Matharu Website : www.MetalVortex.com Contact : www.MetalVortex.com/contact Blog : www.MetalVortex.com/blog Experimental : www.NinjaTrek.com Brain! Brain! What is brain?! |
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