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Car Show Photography
On Apr 6, 2019, Tony Cooper wrote
(in ): On Sat, 06 Apr 2019 18:56:03 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On Apr 6, 2019, Tony Cooper wrote (in ): Today's Central Florida All-British Car Show was great for the spectators, but not so good for photography. Almost all of the cars had the bonnets up so the engine could be viewed. I suppose some people like looking at engines, but it doesn't allow photographs of the lines of some really classy cars. The cars were parked very close together, and every shot included some old dudes in Bermuda shorts and black socks. I did take one photograph of the engine compartment of a car. Lotta stuff crammed under the bonnet of a car about the size of a baby buggy: https://photos.smugmug.com/Current/i...19-04-06-L.jpg It sounds as though you were faced with the typical local car show problem, cars packed into spaces which prevent any appreciative viewing, and/or photography. Car shows are one of those events where a wide, or even ultra-wide angle angle lens can prove to be useful. In these examples a 14mm f/2.8 and a 16mm f/1.4. https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-dCf3hbN/0/3adc8afa/O/i-dCf3hbN.jpg https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-g4MvNs3/0/b8a9c012/O/i-g4MvNs3.jpg I attended this same show a few years ago when it was held in an area with a quite a few trees. The shadows, as seen in your photo, drove me nuts. One part of a car would be in shadow, and part not in shadow. There would be a limb's shadow right across a car. Yup! That can be a problem, and off camera lighting is so awkward in that scenario. This year they were in a new location which is a huge open area. No tree shadows, but excessive glare from Florida sun. I didn't carry my bag into the event and didn't have a polarizing filter with me. Somehow I don’t believe a CPL would have saved the day. Perhaps some other solution which might save you from blown highlights. I don't like shots with a lot of background clutter, and that's always the problem with car shows. Usually I'll shoot close-ups of grills or wheels or something, but nothing interesting today. Unfortunately with many of these shows the location dictates the background, and then there are those intruding people. You would think they would at least let us get the shots we want before they contaminate the scene. Having said that, here is a grill shot from my Nikon days. https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-7fVsMZ7/0/d3059b1a/O/i-7fVsMZ7.jpg As far as the Morris under hood/bonnet shot goes, that car would not get too far in a Concours show as there doesn’t seem to be much beyond the valve cover which is original. For starters the twin SU carbs + intake manifold, non-original fuel filter+line, add-on AC, and alternator are not OEM, and weren’t even original options. As for the horn, and the red “Dodgeball” thing in the upper left... This was a local event. There are different categories of entrants. Some enter to be judged, and some enter just to show off their babies. I forget what the area was labeled where this car was, but it was not in an area for judging. Most of the areas were for makes of cars, but this area was mixed. I don't even think they had "judges". I noticed a box where spectators turned in ballots for the "People's Choice". There were about 200 cars there. There are quite a few local shows that are run that way with some pseudo formal judging, and a write in popularity contest. This was not the Amelia Island Concours d'Elegance. Pity! This year’s Amelia Island event has come and gone, but next year mark your calendar for March 12-15. https://www.ameliaconcours.org/news.aspx Strange the way they like to have these events at golf courses, Amelia Island, Pebble Beach, Avila Bay.... -- Regards, Savageduck |
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Car Show Photography
On 4/6/2019 9:56 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On Apr 6, 2019, Tony Cooper wrote (in ): Today's Central Florida All-British Car Show was great for the spectators, but not so good for photography. Almost all of the cars had the bonnets up so the engine could be viewed. I suppose some people like looking at engines, but it doesn't allow photographs of the lines of some really classy cars. The cars were parked very close together, and every shot included some old dudes in Bermuda shorts and black socks. I did take one photograph of the engine compartment of a car. Lotta stuff crammed under the bonnet of a car about the size of a baby buggy: https://photos.smugmug.com/Current/i...19-04-06-L.jpg It sounds as though you were faced with the typical local car show problem, cars packed into spaces which prevent any appreciative viewing, and/or photography. Car shows are one of those events where a wide, or even ultra-wide angle angle lens can prove to be useful. In these examples a 14mm f/2.8 and a 16mm f/1.4. https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-dCf3hbN/0/3adc8afa/O/i-dCf3hbN.jpg https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-g4MvNs3/0/b8a9c012/O/i-g4MvNs3.jpg As far as the Morris under hood/bonnet shot goes, that car would not get too far in a Concours show as there doesn’t seem to be much beyond the valve cover which is original. For starters the twin SU carbs + intake manifold, non-original fuel filter+line, add-on AC, and alternator are not OEM, and weren’t even original options. As for the horn, and the red “Dodgeball” thing in the upper left... when the cars are lined up too closely at a car show, I look for a different perspective, https://www.dropbox.com/s/iup153dn2rmq45n/_DSC6735.jpg?dl=0 -- PeterN |
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Car Show Photography
On Apr 6, 2019, Tony Cooper wrote
(in ): I don't like shots with a lot of background clutter, and that's always the problem with car shows. Usually I'll shoot close-ups of grills or wheels or something, but nothing interesting today. Sometimes, in not very good conditions, one can find a bit of potential that everybody else has missed. The prospective target: https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-zZgq7Nr/0/71c4ce97/O/i-zZgq7Nr.jpg The shot: https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-6mXQxJQ/0/41a0d254/O/i-6mXQxJQ.jpg The final edit: https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-BMHK5Pb/0/30ffb209/O/i-BMHK5Pb.jpg BTW: the vehicle is a 1948 Cisitalia Abarth 204 A Spyder. Even in the post-War 40’s the Italians made pretty cars. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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Car Show Photography
On Sun, 7 Apr 2019 22:16:30 -0400, PeterN
wrote: On 4/6/2019 9:56 PM, Savageduck wrote: On Apr 6, 2019, Tony Cooper wrote (in ): Today's Central Florida All-British Car Show was great for the spectators, but not so good for photography. Almost all of the cars had the bonnets up so the engine could be viewed. I suppose some people like looking at engines, but it doesn't allow photographs of the lines of some really classy cars. The cars were parked very close together, and every shot included some old dudes in Bermuda shorts and black socks. I did take one photograph of the engine compartment of a car. Lotta stuff crammed under the bonnet of a car about the size of a baby buggy: https://photos.smugmug.com/Current/i...19-04-06-L.jpg It sounds as though you were faced with the typical local car show problem, cars packed into spaces which prevent any appreciative viewing, and/or photography. Car shows are one of those events where a wide, or even ultra-wide angle angle lens can prove to be useful. In these examples a 14mm f/2.8 and a 16mm f/1.4. https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-dCf3hbN/0/3adc8afa/O/i-dCf3hbN.jpg https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-g4MvNs3/0/b8a9c012/O/i-g4MvNs3.jpg As far as the Morris under hood/bonnet shot goes, that car would not get too far in a Concours show as there doesnt seem to be much beyond the valve cover which is original. For starters the twin SU carbs + intake manifold, non-original fuel filter+line, add-on AC, and alternator are not OEM, and werent even original options. As for the horn, and the red Dodgeball thing in the upper left... when the cars are lined up too closely at a car show, I look for a different perspective, https://www.dropbox.com/s/iup153dn2rmq45n/_DSC6735.jpg?dl=0 There are always some non-vehicle subjects to shoot: https://photos.smugmug.com/Candids/i...2-01-21-2G.jpg -- Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida |
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On 06/04/2019 21:52, RJH wrote:
On 06/04/2019 21:16, Tony Cooper wrote: Today's Central Florida All-British Car Show was great for the spectators, but not so good for photography.* Almost all of the cars had the bonnets up so the engine could be viewed.* I suppose some people like looking at engines, but it doesn't allow photographs of the lines of some really classy cars.* The cars were parked very close together, and every shot included some old dudes in Bermuda shorts and black socks. I did take one photograph of the engine compartment of a car.* Lotta stuff crammed under the bonnet of a car about the size of a baby buggy: https://photos.smugmug.com/Current/i...19-04-06-L.jpg Nice photo - but pretty far removed from the standard Minor I think. The AC unit (on the left - is that an AC compressor?) and the twin carburettors take up a lot of space in what is by most standards a cavernous engine bay. And that horn isn't standard! I was just going to say that! I can't recall for the moment whether similar twin carb setups were found on the similar engine of things like the MG Midget / Austin Healey Sprite of the same period. We Brits certainly thought that aircon was strictly for softies, in those days. |
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Car Show Photography
On 08/04/2019 14:25, newshound wrote:
On 06/04/2019 21:52, RJH wrote: On 06/04/2019 21:16, Tony Cooper wrote: Today's Central Florida All-British Car Show was great for the spectators, but not so good for photography.* Almost all of the cars had the bonnets up so the engine could be viewed.* I suppose some people like looking at engines, but it doesn't allow photographs of the lines of some really classy cars.* The cars were parked very close together, and every shot included some old dudes in Bermuda shorts and black socks. I did take one photograph of the engine compartment of a car.* Lotta stuff crammed under the bonnet of a car about the size of a baby buggy: https://photos.smugmug.com/Current/i...19-04-06-L.jpg Nice photo - but pretty far removed from the standard Minor I think. The AC unit (on the left - is that an AC compressor?) and the twin carburettors take up a lot of space in what is by most standards a cavernous engine bay. And that horn isn't standard! I was just going to say that! I can't recall for the moment whether similar twin carb setups were found on the similar engine of things like the MG Midget / Austin Healey Sprite of the same period. Pretty sure they were. Like the Cooper versions of the Mini - I was lucky enough to have a 1963 Cooper. Happy days, 'balancing' with a bit of plastic tube :-) We Brits certainly thought that aircon was strictly for softies, in those days. Indeed! It was only about 10 years back that I bought my first car with aircon. -- Cheers, Rob |
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Car Show Photography
On 4/6/2019 6:31 PM, RichA wrote:
On Saturday, 6 April 2019 16:16:34 UTC-4, Tony Cooper wrote: Today's Central Florida All-British Car Show was great for the spectators, but not so good for photography. Almost all of the cars had the bonnets up so the engine could be viewed. I suppose some people like looking at engines, but it doesn't allow photographs of the lines of some really classy cars. The cars were parked very close together, and every shot included some old dudes in Bermuda shorts and black socks. I did take one photograph of the engine compartment of a car. Lotta stuff crammed under the bonnet of a car about the size of a baby buggy: https://photos.smugmug.com/Current/i...19-04-06-L.jpg -- Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida Most car show shots are typical side-aimed 3/4 views, often with wide angle lenses which distort because of the lack of space at these events. See my prior response. Also: https://www.dropbox.com/s/upwjepim88y9ip5/20180603_cars%20antique%20flowers_6748-Edit.jpg?dl=0 Or if you are not into abstract, talk to the owner. Most that I have spoken with are reasonably accommodating, after the judging. I also carry some extra disks, and offer them one with at least one JPEG of the car. (I only make the offer if they have done me a favor, and the professional photographer has left for the day.) https://www.dropbox.com/s/e3xsjzhquvng0hm/20180603_cars%20antique%20flowers_6871.jpg?dl=0 -- PeterN |
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On 4/8/2019 9:25 AM, newshound wrote:
On 06/04/2019 21:52, RJH wrote: On 06/04/2019 21:16, Tony Cooper wrote: Today's Central Florida All-British Car Show was great for the spectators, but not so good for photography.* Almost all of the cars had the bonnets up so the engine could be viewed.* I suppose some people like looking at engines, but it doesn't allow photographs of the lines of some really classy cars.* The cars were parked very close together, and every shot included some old dudes in Bermuda shorts and black socks. I did take one photograph of the engine compartment of a car.* Lotta stuff crammed under the bonnet of a car about the size of a baby buggy: https://photos.smugmug.com/Current/i...19-04-06-L.jpg Nice photo - but pretty far removed from the standard Minor I think. The AC unit (on the left - is that an AC compressor?) and the twin carburettors take up a lot of space in what is by most standards a cavernous engine bay. And that horn isn't standard! I was just going to say that! I can't recall for the moment whether similar twin carb setups were found on the similar engine of things like the MG Midget / Austin Healey Sprite of the same period. We Brits certainly thought that aircon was strictly for softies, in those days. Twin SU carbs were standard for Austin Healy Sprites/MG Midgets, MGB & MGC, Moris Mini & Minor, Most Triumph models, etc. Triple SUs were used on some of the 6-cylinder engines as an option. -- best regards, Neil |
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