[Meta] POLL: Who here would support a moderated version of rec.photo.digital?

Lionel wrote in message . ..
Serious question:
Suppose that I were to propose the creation of
rec.photo.digital.moderated?

The basic idea I'm thinking of is for RPDM to be a 'cleaned up' version
of RPD, with posts to RPDM being automatically xposted to RPD to make it
possible for RPD readers help digital newbies, & easier for others to
upgrade to the moderated group.

I'm fairly familiar with the process for creating this sort of group, so
if the idea meets with general approval of the non-trolls in RPD, I'd be
volunteering to champion the proposal (as it stands, or with
modifications from RPD's readership) through news.groups, & to build &
run the automated moderation (mod-bot) system. I can also take care of
the mechanics ('newgroup' control messages, manual notification to
newsadmins, 'booster messages', etc) neccessary to make the moderated
group available to the general public.

Draft rules:

(1) Basic charter to be very similar to the current RPD charter, but
with the wording tightened up a little to eliminate the loopholes that
idiots use to excuse 'for sale' & 'for auction' posts. 'On-topic' to be
defined as anything at all to do with digital photography, with overlap
to general photography topics being acceptable, as long as there's at
least a little bit of relevance to digital photography. Standard
boilerplate to ban spam, commercial posts, & the other stuff that most
newsgroups ban.

(2) Moderation policy would be to default to automatically approving
posts (possibly a whitelist of preapproved posters, with hand approval
of new posters?), but with a blacklist for anon-gateways, known
spammers, trolls, troublemakers, etc. It might be worth blocking Google
posts too, given that so many trolls create throwaway Google posting
accounts, & it takes Google too damn long to nuke them.

(3) A policy of single warnings for posts from otherwise okay posters
who participate in massively off-topic threads, (eg; the recent
political threads), with a 1 week 'time out' for those who persist after
being warned. 'White-listed' posters who'd been warned would go onto the
hand-approval list for a week. However, they would be welcome to
continue the discussion in the existing unmoderated group, or elsewhere
without penalty, as long as they keep it out of the moderated group.

(4) No crossposts to non-photography groups at all. All such posts would
be blocked automatically, & the poster warned.

(5) Posts to RPDM that passed the mod-bot would be automatically xposted
to RPD, tagged with [RPDM] in the Subject line, & the Followups header
automatically set to to RPDM only.

Questions:
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(a) Would you support or *vote for* the above proposal, exactly as
stated?

(b) Would you support or *vote for* the above proposal, with changes?

(c) Would you *vote against* the above proposal?

(d) Are you already happy with RPD exactly as it is?

(d) Don't know.

(e) Comments?

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If people are generally in favour of this idea, it might be worth making
a similar proposal for RPE35mm, given that they have a lot of the same
problems we're suffering from.


(a) Would you support or *vote for* the above proposal, exactly as
stated?

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!

(b) Would you support or *vote for* the above proposal, with changes?

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!

(c) Would you *vote against* the above proposal?

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!

(d) Are you already happy with RPD exactly as it is?

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!

(d) Don't know.

STUPID QUESTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

(e) Comments?

TOO MUCH CANON BIAS! SIGMA PHOTOGRAPHERS ARE TREATED LIKE SECOND CLASS NETIZINS!

(Jorge Prediguez) wrote:

TOO MUCH CANON BIAS! SIGMA PHOTOGRAPHERS ARE TREATED LIKE SECOND CLASS NETIZINS!


You should be flattered to be treated as second class
when you are using third rate lenses.

"TP" wrote in message
...
(Jorge Prediguez) wrote:

TOO MUCH CANON BIAS! SIGMA PHOTOGRAPHERS ARE TREATED LIKE SECOND CLASS
NETIZINS!


You should be flattered to be treated as second class
when you are using third rate lenses.



And why is this question that is so specific to R.P.D. getting splattered
over all the other photo newsgroups? Is it remotely likely that anyone who
would be interested in an R.P.D.M. isn't already reading R.P.D., yet is
reading any of the other groups?


Peter

Please do not respond to this thread, its cross posted to a
bunch of unrelated news groups.


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Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA

"Richard Knoppow" wrote

Please do not respond to this thread, its cross posted to a
bunch of unrelated news groups.

you're sure!?


ever see a naughty talkin troll in your neck of the woods?

Moderation killed news:rec.video.professional.
Twice.

On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 21:28:04 -0700, "Richard Crowley"
wrote:

Moderation killed news:rec.video.professional.
Twice.


No, the trolls killed the group. The moderation just buried
it.

More crossposting to the wrong groups. Please post to the
appropriate group.


Regards,

John S. Douglas, Photographer - http://www.darkroompro.com

On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 15:40:25 -0400, "Steve Young"
wrote:

ever see a naughty talkin troll in your neck of the woods?

More crossposting to the wrong groups. Please post to the
appropriate group.


Regards,

John S. Douglas, Photographer - http://www.darkroompro.com

On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 12:36:41 +0100, TP wrote:

(Jorge Prediguez) wrote:

TOO MUCH CANON BIAS! SIGMA PHOTOGRAPHERS ARE TREATED LIKE SECOND CLASS NETIZINS!


You should be flattered to be treated as second class
when you are using third rate lenses.



More crossposting to the wrong groups. Please post to the
appropriate group.


Regards,

John S. Douglas, Photographer - http://www.darkroompro.com

On 30 Jun 2004 04:31:22 -0700, (Jorge Prediguez)
wrote:


More crossposting to the wrong groups. Please post to the
appropriate group.


Regards,

John S. Douglas, Photographer - http://www.darkroompro.com