Drones to have remote I.D. modules now

On Dec 28, 2020, RichA wrote
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So, any drone footage that happened to generate any income for anyone (Youtube's masters and their monitized video, but not you, perhaps??) will need this nanny-state LEASH.

https://petapixel.com/2020/12/28/faa...-now-required/

Petapixel is not exactly a UAS (official speak for drone) authority when it comes to the FAA, Part 107, and Remote ID.

A thorough read of the FAA publication, and knowledge of the existing Part 107 regulations spells out a few things.

1: Any UAS weighing less than 250g does not require registration, all weighing more than 250g require registration. ($5 for 2 years)
2: Any UAS used for commercial enterprise (including monetized YT videos, or monetized YT channels using UAS footage) will be registered regardless of weight, and the operator must possess a Part 107 Certificate. That includes the New Mini 2.
3: The published regulations come into effect 60 days + 30 months from this publishing date, and manufacturers have until then to come into compliance.
4: Then there is the big exception. Here is a quote from today’s publication:

"Upon full implementation of this rule, most unmanned aircraft will have to be produced as standard remote identification unmanned aircraft. However, there will be some unmanned aircraft (e.g., home-built unmanned aircraft and existing unmanned aircraft produced prior to the date of compliance of the production requirements of this rule) that might not meet the requirements for standard remote identification unmanned aircraft.
Persons operating an unmanned aircraft without remote identification in the airspace of the United States must comply with the operational rules in subpart B of part 89 by [INSERT DATE 60 DAYS AND 30 MONTHS AFTER DATE OF PUBLICATION IN THE FEDERAL REGISTER]. Unless operating under an exception to the remote identification operating requirements, a person operating an unmanned aircraft without remote identification must always operate within visual line of sight and within an FAA-recognized identification area.�

So most recreational flyers of existing Drones/UAS, including those currently for sale, and the guys flying FPV quads, and racing drones will not be effected. I will certainly be able to continue flying my Mavic Air 2 (which is registered) shooting images, and footage as my hobby. As I am not monetizing any of my work. I fly under 400 ft/122 m and comply with the regulations.

For a more detailed look at what came out today, here is something for you to read.

https://www.faa.gov/news/media/attachments/RemoteID_Final_Rule.pdf

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Regards,
Savageduck

But I assume that in the future DJI drones won't be anymore
available for sale in the USA, because the US have banned
American companies from doing business with DJI?

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Alfred Molon

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On Dec 29, 2020, Alfred Molon wrote
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But I assume that in the future DJI drones won't be anymore
available for sale in the USA, because the US have banned
American companies from doing business with DJI?

It is not quite that simple, and/or clearcut. The US government has named Chinese “entities� that US companies cannot trade with. That means the US companies are restricted in what they can sell to the Chinese, it does not mean particular Chinese entities/manufacturers are “banned� from selling their products in the US.
DJI, for example has several different US components in their drones such as the battery control chip which is supplied by Texas Instruments.

For now (at least the next 30 months) DJI will have no problem selling drones in the US other than anti-Chinese PR backlash.

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Regards,
Savageduck

On 12/29/2020 5:50 AM, Alfred Molon wrote:
But I assume that in the future DJI drones won't be anymore
available for sale in the USA, because the US have banned
American companies from doing business with DJI?

The reasoning being applied to the notion of disallowing DJI products
makes no sense from a technical perspective. It would be just as easy to
hack any drone as it is to hack your "smart refrigerator", so such
threats are pandering to the ignorant. Much of the gibberish about any
Chinese companies' products being sold in the USA is political noise. We
have a very deep and complex relationship with China, and many of our
companies are partners with Chinese companies.

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best regards,

Neil

In article
.com,
says...
It is not quite that simple, and/or clearcut. The US government has named Chinese ?entities? that US companies cannot trade with. That means the US companies are restricted in what they can sell to the Chinese, it does not mean particular Chinese entities/manufacturers are ?banned? from selling their products in the US.
DJI, for example has several different US components in their drones such as the battery control chip which is supplied by Texas Instruments.

For now (at least the next 30 months) DJI will have no problem selling drones in the US other than anti-Chinese PR backlash.

But US companies are not allowed to do business with DJI. How
would they place an order for drones with DJI?
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Alfred Molon

Olympus 4/3 and micro 4/3 cameras forum at
https://groups.io/g/myolympus
https://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site

On Dec 29, 2020, Alfred Molon wrote
(in s.net):

In article
.com,
says...
It is not quite that simple, and/or clearcut. The US government has named
Chinese ?entities? that US companies cannot trade with. That means the US
companies are restricted in what they can sell to the Chinese, it does not
mean particular Chinese entities/manufacturers are ?banned? from selling
their products in the US.
DJI, for example has several different US components in their drones such
as the battery control chip which is supplied by Texas Instruments.

For now (at least the next 30 months) DJI will have no problem selling
drones in the US other than anti-Chinese PR backlash.

But US companies are not allowed to do business with DJI. How
would they place an order for drones with DJI?

They are not prohibited from doing business with them, they are only
prohibited from selling certain parts to them without permission.

On Dec 29, 2020, Alfred Molon wrote
(in s.net):

In article
.com,
says...
It is not quite that simple, and/or clearcut. The US government has named Chinese ?entities? that US companies cannot trade with. That means the US companies are restricted in what they can sell to the Chinese, it does not mean particular Chinese entities/manufacturers are ?banned? from selling their products in the US.
DJI, for example has several different US components in their drones such as the battery control chip which is supplied by Texas Instruments.

For now (at least the next 30 months) DJI will have no problem selling drones in the US other than anti-Chinese PR backlash.

But US companies are not allowed to do business with DJI. How
would they place an order for drones with DJI?

The same way they do now. For example Best Buy is probably the biggest outlet for DJI, Autel, and many other drones in the USA, and they do tens of millions of $$$ selling drones every year. There are many smaller retailers such as Drone-Workshttps://drone-works.com, and combined the sale of Chines drones in the USA is a billion $$$ business employing thousands of red blooded Americans in the USA. Also, DJI has its US office with several hundred US employees who provide warranty, and repair service.

So there should be little problem with DJI doing business with US retailers.

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Regards,
Savageduck

On Dec 29, 2020, RichA wrote
(in ):

On Tuesday, 29 December 2020 at 17:50:54 UTC-5, Bill W wrote:
On Dec 29, 2020, Alfred Molon wrote
(in ):
In article
,
says...
It is not quite that simple, and/or clearcut. The US government has named
Chinese ?entities? that US companies cannot trade with. That means the US
companies are restricted in what they can sell to the Chinese, it does not
mean particular Chinese entities/manufacturers are ?banned? from selling
their products in the US.
DJI, for example has several different US components in their drones such
as the battery control chip which is supplied by Texas Instruments.

For now (at least the next 30 months) DJI will have no problem selling
drones in the US other than anti-Chinese PR backlash.

But US companies are not allowed to do business with DJI. How
would they place an order for drones with DJI?
They are not prohibited from doing business with them, they are only
prohibited from selling certain parts to them without permission.

Should have been an outright ban. That's how they caught German companies try
to sell parts to Iran and Iraq.

China is pure evil, but we still have to be rational dealing with specific
issues. They make great drones that everyone wants, and if they were phoning
home, there would be clear proof of that by now. I assume that the firmware
can be reverse engineered, and that all data they send can be read.

On Dec 29, 2020, Bill W wrote
(in ternal-september.org):

On Dec 29, 2020, RichA wrote
(in ):

On Tuesday, 29 December 2020 at 17:50:54 UTC-5, Bill W wrote:
On Dec 29, 2020, Alfred Molon wrote
(in ):
In article
,
says...
It is not quite that simple, and/or clearcut. The US government has named
Chinese ?entities? that US companies cannot trade with. That means the US
companies are restricted in what they can sell to the Chinese, it does not
mean particular Chinese entities/manufacturers are ?banned? from selling
their products in the US.
DJI, for example has several different US components in their drones such
as the battery control chip which is supplied by Texas Instruments.

For now (at least the next 30 months) DJI will have no problem selling
drones in the US other than anti-Chinese PR backlash.

But US companies are not allowed to do business with DJI. How
would they place an order for drones with DJI?
They are not prohibited from doing business with them, they are only
prohibited from selling certain parts to them without permission.

Should have been an outright ban. That's how they caught German companies try
to sell parts to Iran and Iraq.

China is pure evil, but we still have to be rational dealing with specific
issues. They make great drones that everyone wants, and if they were phoning
home, there would be clear proof of that by now. I assume that the firmware
can be reverse engineered, and that all data they send can be read.

Actually it is as simple as turning OFF (default is on) “Product improvement data transmission� in the Controller, and Fly app settings.
....but I guess that is way too technical for some folks.

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Regards,
Savageduck

On Dec 29, 2020, Savageduck wrote
(in iganews.com):

On Dec 29, 2020, Bill W wrote
(in ternal-september.org):

On Dec 29, 2020, RichA wrote
(in ):

On Tuesday, 29 December 2020 at 17:50:54 UTC-5, Bill W wrote:
On Dec 29, 2020, Alfred Molon wrote
(in ):
In article
,
says...
It is not quite that simple, and/or clearcut. The US government has
named
Chinese ?entities? that US companies cannot trade with. That means the
US
companies are restricted in what they can sell to the Chinese, it does
not
mean particular Chinese entities/manufacturers are ?banned? from selling
their products in the US.
DJI, for example has several different US components in their drones
such
as the battery control chip which is supplied by Texas Instruments.

For now (at least the next 30 months) DJI will have no problem selling
drones in the US other than anti-Chinese PR backlash.

But US companies are not allowed to do business with DJI. How
would they place an order for drones with DJI?
They are not prohibited from doing business with them, they are only
prohibited from selling certain parts to them without permission.

Should have been an outright ban. That's how they caught German companies
try
to sell parts to Iran and Iraq.

China is pure evil, but we still have to be rational dealing with specific
issues. They make great drones that everyone wants, and if they were phoning
home, there would be clear proof of that by now. I assume that the firmware
can be reverse engineered, and that all data they send can be read.

Actually it is as simple as turning OFF (default is on) “Product
improvement data transmission� in the Controller, and Fly app settings.
...but I guess that is way too technical for some folks.

Hmmm, that does sound pretty simple...