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On 6/16/2014 11:48 AM, PAS wrote:
"Whisky-dave" wrote in message
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On Monday, 16 June 2014 15:15:26 UTC+1, PAS wrote:



No, but in many cases there is far too much regulation of ownership.

In which particualar cases would you say are over regulated ?

Where I live, in Suffolk County on Long Island.

In a nutshell, this is the process I had to go through to get my handgun
license and first handgun:

1) Fill out a long application including all previous addresses.
2) Provide three personal references and signed and noarized affadavits
from them
3) The references and my employer were all interviewed
4) I had to be fingerprinted & interviewed
5) I was warned of what could disqualify me from being approved. Among
them was getting a traffic ticket within the application process timeframe.
6) I was approved after approximately six months from the time I applied
7) I can no purchase a handgun. I went to a gun dealer and made my
purchase. But I could not take possession. I had to get a form filled out
by the dealer
8) I take the form to the police department and they review the form and
then must approve the form and stamp it
9) I take the form back to the dealer and then take possession
10) I have to bring the handgun to the police department for their
inspection and then to record the serial number on my license
11) I am only permitted to take the handgun from my home directly to firing
range and then directly back home when finished. I cannot make any stops
along the way, no exceptions. If I do, I can lose my license.

That my friend, is over regulated.


Well, you got your gun! Just think what it would be like in the UK.

--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not." in Reply To.

"James Silverton" wrote in message
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On 6/16/2014 11:48 AM, PAS wrote:
"Whisky-dave" wrote in message
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On Monday, 16 June 2014 15:15:26 UTC+1, PAS wrote:



No, but in many cases there is far too much regulation of ownership.

In which particualar cases would you say are over regulated ?

Where I live, in Suffolk County on Long Island.

In a nutshell, this is the process I had to go through to get my handgun
license and first handgun:

1) Fill out a long application including all previous addresses.
2) Provide three personal references and signed and noarized affadavits
from them
3) The references and my employer were all interviewed
4) I had to be fingerprinted & interviewed
5) I was warned of what could disqualify me from being approved. Among
them was getting a traffic ticket within the application process
timeframe.
6) I was approved after approximately six months from the time I applied
7) I can no purchase a handgun. I went to a gun dealer and made my
purchase. But I could not take possession. I had to get a form filled
out
by the dealer
8) I take the form to the police department and they review the form and
then must approve the form and stamp it
9) I take the form back to the dealer and then take possession
10) I have to bring the handgun to the police department for their
inspection and then to record the serial number on my license
11) I am only permitted to take the handgun from my home directly to
firing
range and then directly back home when finished. I cannot make any stops
along the way, no exceptions. If I do, I can lose my license.

That my friend, is over regulated.


Well, you got your gun! Just think what it would be like in the UK.

True, in the UK it's impossible to get one.

On 6/16/2014 9:04 AM, PAS wrote:
"PeterN" wrote in message
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On 6/13/2014 12:31 PM, PAS wrote:
"PeterN" wrote in message

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Are you saying that there should e no regulation of ownership of
weapons?
Discussion of the degree of regulation is a different discussion than
whether ownership should be regulated.

No I am not. But there is too much regulation in many cases, as I've
demonstrated.

At least we agree on something. How much is too much, can lead to
interesting discussions. I can see the reasonable logic for the
regulations you have complained about.

Don't we agree on rum raisin too?



And Snowflake & (I think,) Magic Fountain in Mattituck.


--
PeterN

"PeterN" wrote in message
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On 6/16/2014 9:04 AM, PAS wrote:
"PeterN" wrote in message
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On 6/13/2014 12:31 PM, PAS wrote:
"PeterN" wrote in message

snip


Are you saying that there should e no regulation of ownership of
weapons?
Discussion of the degree of regulation is a different discussion than
whether ownership should be regulated.

No I am not. But there is too much regulation in many cases, as I've
demonstrated.

At least we agree on something. How much is too much, can lead to
interesting discussions. I can see the reasonable logic for the
regulations you have complained about.

Don't we agree on rum raisin too?



And Snowflake & (I think,) Magic Fountain in Mattituck.

LOL, we were just at the Magic Fountain this past weekend. There is another
place in Center Moriches on Montauk Highway - "The Ice Cream Cottage" - that
is really great. They make a chocolate fudge ice cream that has those jelly
rings in it. It's amazing.

"Whisky-dave" wrote in message
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On Monday, 16 June 2014 20:37:56 UTC+1, PAS wrote:
"James Silverton" wrote in message

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On 6/16/2014 11:48 AM, PAS wrote:

"Whisky-dave" wrote in message

...

On Monday, 16 June 2014 15:15:26 UTC+1, PAS wrote:







No, but in many cases there is far too much regulation of ownership.



In which particualar cases would you say are over regulated ?



Where I live, in Suffolk County on Long Island.



In a nutshell, this is the process I had to go through to get my
handgun

license and first handgun:



1) Fill out a long application including all previous addresses.

2) Provide three personal references and signed and noarized
affadavits

from them

3) The references and my employer were all interviewed

4) I had to be fingerprinted & interviewed

5) I was warned of what could disqualify me from being approved.
Among

them was getting a traffic ticket within the application process

timeframe.

6) I was approved after approximately six months from the time I
applied

7) I can no purchase a handgun. I went to a gun dealer and made my

purchase. But I could not take possession. I had to get a form
filled

out

by the dealer

8) I take the form to the police department and they review the form
and

then must approve the form and stamp it

9) I take the form back to the dealer and then take possession

10) I have to bring the handgun to the police department for their

inspection and then to record the serial number on my license

11) I am only permitted to take the handgun from my home directly to

firing

range and then directly back home when finished. I cannot make any
stops

along the way, no exceptions. If I do, I can lose my license.



That my friend, is over regulated.





Well, you got your gun! Just think what it would be like in the UK.



True, in the UK it's impossible to get one.

yes of course it is, but where do you get these sort of 'facts'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/18911651

I'm not sure what "facts" you're speaking of. Am I wrong that in the UK an
"ordinary citizen" like you and I are not permitted to won handguns?

On 6/17/2014 9:00 AM, PAS wrote:
"PeterN" wrote in message
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On 6/16/2014 9:04 AM, PAS wrote:
"PeterN" wrote in message
...
On 6/13/2014 12:31 PM, PAS wrote:
"PeterN" wrote in message

snip


Are you saying that there should e no regulation of ownership of
weapons?
Discussion of the degree of regulation is a different discussion than
whether ownership should be regulated.

No I am not. But there is too much regulation in many cases, as I've
demonstrated.

At least we agree on something. How much is too much, can lead to
interesting discussions. I can see the reasonable logic for the
regulations you have complained about.

Don't we agree on rum raisin too?



And Snowflake & (I think,) Magic Fountain in Mattituck.

LOL, we were just at the Magic Fountain this past weekend. There is another
place in Center Moriches on Montauk Highway - "The Ice Cream Cottage" - that
is really great. They make a chocolate fudge ice cream that has those jelly
rings in it. It's amazing.



You are diabetic. WTF are you doing eating that kind of ice cream!
Besides, the only thing that should be added ti ice cream, is small
pieces of fruit, or nuts. Adding jelly of peanut butter to ice cream is
a sacrilege.

--
PeterN

On 6/17/2014 11:52 AM, Tony Cooper wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 09:02:54 -0400, "PAS"
wrote:

I'm not sure what "facts" you're speaking of. Am I wrong that in the UK an
"ordinary citizen" like you and I are not permitted to won handguns?

Some ordinary citizens are dangerous to themselves and/or others.

Seventy year-old L.C. Williams shot himself in the foot yesterday. The
Orlandoan was carrying his gun tucked in the waistband of his trousers
and it dropped to ground. It discharged wounding Williams.
The round ricocheted and did $500 of estimated damages to a Dodge
Charger in the supermarket parking lot where the incident occurred.

I feel badly for the owner of the Dodge Charger.

I trust the insurance company is pursuing Williams to collect damages.
He is lucky that he did not shoot off some of his external equipment.

--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not." in Reply To.

On 6/17/14 8:02 AM, in article , "PAS"
wrote:

"Whisky-dave" wrote in message
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On Monday, 16 June 2014 20:37:56 UTC+1, PAS wrote:
"James Silverton" wrote in message

...

On 6/16/2014 11:48 AM, PAS wrote:

"Whisky-dave" wrote in message

...

On Monday, 16 June 2014 15:15:26 UTC+1, PAS wrote:







No, but in many cases there is far too much regulation of ownership.



In which particualar cases would you say are over regulated ?



Where I live, in Suffolk County on Long Island.



In a nutshell, this is the process I had to go through to get my
handgun

license and first handgun:



1) Fill out a long application including all previous addresses.

2) Provide three personal references and signed and noarized
affadavits

from them

3) The references and my employer were all interviewed

4) I had to be fingerprinted & interviewed

5) I was warned of what could disqualify me from being approved.
Among

them was getting a traffic ticket within the application process

timeframe.

6) I was approved after approximately six months from the time I
applied

7) I can no purchase a handgun. I went to a gun dealer and made my

purchase. But I could not take possession. I had to get a form
filled

out

by the dealer

8) I take the form to the police department and they review the form
and

then must approve the form and stamp it

9) I take the form back to the dealer and then take possession

10) I have to bring the handgun to the police department for their

inspection and then to record the serial number on my license

11) I am only permitted to take the handgun from my home directly to

firing

range and then directly back home when finished. I cannot make any
stops

along the way, no exceptions. If I do, I can lose my license.



That my friend, is over regulated.





Well, you got your gun! Just think what it would be like in the UK.



True, in the UK it's impossible to get one.

yes of course it is, but where do you get these sort of 'facts'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/18911651

I'm not sure what "facts" you're speaking of. Am I wrong that in the UK an
"ordinary citizen" like you and I are not permitted to won handguns?



Whiskey does not discern between long arms and handguns...

"PeterN" wrote in message
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On 6/17/2014 9:00 AM, PAS wrote:
"PeterN" wrote in message
...
On 6/16/2014 9:04 AM, PAS wrote:
"PeterN" wrote in message
...
On 6/13/2014 12:31 PM, PAS wrote:
"PeterN" wrote in message

snip


Are you saying that there should e no regulation of ownership of
weapons?
Discussion of the degree of regulation is a different discussion
than
whether ownership should be regulated.

No I am not. But there is too much regulation in many cases, as I've
demonstrated.

At least we agree on something. How much is too much, can lead to
interesting discussions. I can see the reasonable logic for the
regulations you have complained about.

Don't we agree on rum raisin too?



And Snowflake & (I think,) Magic Fountain in Mattituck.

LOL, we were just at the Magic Fountain this past weekend. There is
another
place in Center Moriches on Montauk Highway - "The Ice Cream Cottage" -
that
is really great. They make a chocolate fudge ice cream that has those
jelly
rings in it. It's amazing.



You are diabetic. WTF are you doing eating that kind of ice cream!
Besides, the only thing that should be added ti ice cream, is small pieces
of fruit, or nuts. Adding jelly of peanut butter to ice cream is a
sacrilege.

I "taste", I don't eat. It's difficult but if I want to live than I have to
refrain from eating all that good stuff. My wife gets the ice cream and
I'll have a little taste. Some of the places do have sugar-free Italian Ice
and I usually get that.

"PeterN" wrote in message
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On 6/17/2014 9:00 AM, PAS wrote:
"PeterN" wrote in message
...
On 6/16/2014 9:04 AM, PAS wrote:
"PeterN" wrote in message
...
On 6/13/2014 12:31 PM, PAS wrote:
"PeterN" wrote in message

snip


Are you saying that there should e no regulation of ownership of
weapons?
Discussion of the degree of regulation is a different discussion
than
whether ownership should be regulated.

No I am not. But there is too much regulation in many cases, as I've
demonstrated.

At least we agree on something. How much is too much, can lead to
interesting discussions. I can see the reasonable logic for the
regulations you have complained about.

Don't we agree on rum raisin too?



And Snowflake & (I think,) Magic Fountain in Mattituck.

LOL, we were just at the Magic Fountain this past weekend. There is
another
place in Center Moriches on Montauk Highway - "The Ice Cream Cottage" -
that
is really great. They make a chocolate fudge ice cream that has those
jelly
rings in it. It's amazing.



You are diabetic. WTF are you doing eating that kind of ice cream!
Besides, the only thing that should be added ti ice cream, is small pieces
of fruit, or nuts. Adding jelly of peanut butter to ice cream is a
sacrilege.

I spent a year in Kansas City in 1985. I didn't have diabetes then. There
was a place called "Cone-a-copia". They served vanilla ice cream, You'd
pick out things from the hundred they offered, such as fresh fruit or Milky
Way bars or whatever. They mash it all up into the ice cream and that
became the flavor. I guess it's similar to the Dairy Queen Blizzard. I'd
usually go with fresh peaches or raspberries.