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Old December 20th 20, 12:07 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Eric Stevens
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Default DJI blacklisted by the USA

On Fri, 18 Dec 2020 15:25:40 -0800 (PST), RichA
wrote:

On Friday, 18 December 2020 at 13:46:17 UTC-5, Alfred Molon wrote:
https://petapixel.com/2020/12/18/dji...by-the-united-
states-added-to-economic-blacklist/

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As long as China and Russia keep up their non-stop campaign of industrial and government espionage on a huge scale, these things will happen.


It would be nice if the USA, UK, France, Iran etc stopped also.
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Eric Stevens
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Old December 21st 20, 02:11 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Alan Browne[_2_]
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On 2020-12-20 19:30, Magani wrote:
On Sunday, 20 December 2020 at 10:08:03 am UTC+10, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Fri, 18 Dec 2020 15:25:40 -0800 (PST), RichA
wrote:
On Friday, 18 December 2020 at 13:46:17 UTC-5, Alfred Molon wrote:
https://petapixel.com/2020/12/18/dji...by-the-united-
states-added-to-economic-blacklist/

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Alfred Molon

Olympus 4/3 and micro 4/3 cameras forum at
https://groups.io/g/myolympus
https://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site

As long as China and Russia keep up their non-stop campaign of industrial and government espionage on a huge scale, these things will happen.

It would be nice if the USA, UK, France, Iran etc stopped also.
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens



My biggest worry is that DJI has seemingly got control over whether your drone can fly or not (please correct this if I've got it wrong). As DJI (like any other Chinese company) is ultimately controlled by the Chinese Communist Party, if they want to play hardball in retaliation (like they're doing with trade talks, tariffs, etc with Australia, et al), they can instruct DJI to shut down all DJI drones.

As to whether the Chines government would order to DJI to do so. I
doubt it very much. The government is at odds with other governments
and having the populations of other countries angry at the Chinese
government gives them no advantage at all - quite the contrary.

Theoretically, yes, DJI can disable your drone.

Practically, there are ways to avoid it.
- don't update the s/w
- don't update the no-fly zone maps

Even with the no-fly zone maps you can override and fly, except in
class-C/B airspace (maybe D too). There you have to "sign" a waiver
with DJI in real time via their app[1]. This could give them an
opportunity to completely disable your drone.

[1] you also need to file with the ATC in your country for this. In the
US you would need (I believe) a part 107 license and in Canada a
commercial license.

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  #23  
Old December 21st 20, 05:41 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Savageduck[_3_]
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Default DJI blacklisted by the USA

On Dec 21, 2020, Alan Browne wrote
(in article ):

On 2020-12-20 19:30, Magani wrote:
On Sunday, 20 December 2020 at 10:08:03 am UTC+10, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Fri, 18 Dec 2020 15:25:40 -0800 (PST), RichA
wrote:
On Friday, 18 December 2020 at 13:46:17 UTC-5, Alfred Molon wrote:
https://petapixel.com/2020/12/18/dji...by-the-united-
states-added-to-economic-blacklist/

--
Alfred Molon

Olympus 4/3 and micro 4/3 cameras forum at
https://groups.io/g/myolympus
https://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site

As long as China and Russia keep up their non-stop campaign of industrial and government espionage on a huge scale, these things will happen.
It would be nice if the USA, UK, France, Iran etc stopped also.
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens



My biggest worry is that DJI has seemingly got control over whether your drone can fly or not (please correct this if I've got it wrong). As DJI (like any other Chinese company) is ultimately controlled by the Chinese Communist Party, if they want to play hardball in retaliation (like they're doing with trade talks, tariffs, etc with Australia, et al), they can instruct DJI to shut down all DJI drones.

As to whether the Chines government would order to DJI to do so. I
doubt it very much. The government is at odds with other governments
and having the populations of other countries angry at the Chinese
government gives them no advantage at all - quite the contrary.

Theoretically, yes, DJI can disable your drone.

Practically, there are ways to avoid it.
- don't update the s/w
- don't update the no-fly zone maps

Even with the no-fly zone maps you can override and fly, except in
class-C/B airspace (maybe D too). There you have to "sign" a waiver
with DJI in real time via their app[1]. This could give them an
opportunity to completely disable your drone.

[1] you also need to file with the ATC in your country for this. In the
US you would need (I believe) a part 107 license and in Canada a
commercial license.


Actually in the US you can get an LAANC (Low Altitude Authorization Notification & Clearance) as a recreational UAS flyer without a Part 107 certificate.

https://www.faa.gov/uas/programs_partnerships/data_exchange/laanc_facilities/

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Regards,
Savageduck

 




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