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Old September 30th 04, 04:25 AM
Stacey
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Alan Browne wrote:





http://www.letsgodigital.org/html/ev...iya/ZD_en.html

If so it will dampen down the price of the new 1DsMkII Canon and maybe
influence
Nikon as well.



As well as making the images taken with those DSLR's look as pathetic as
35mm images do compared to MF film cameras. Maybe this will shut up some of
the morons posting the "Dslr's are taking over medformat" garbage that
get's posted almost daily now in the film newsgroups. Somehow I doubt it
will.

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Old September 30th 04, 04:25 AM
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Alan Browne wrote:





http://www.letsgodigital.org/html/ev...iya/ZD_en.html

If so it will dampen down the price of the new 1DsMkII Canon and maybe
influence
Nikon as well.



As well as making the images taken with those DSLR's look as pathetic as
35mm images do compared to MF film cameras. Maybe this will shut up some of
the morons posting the "Dslr's are taking over medformat" garbage that
get's posted almost daily now in the film newsgroups. Somehow I doubt it
will.

--

Stacey
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Old September 30th 04, 04:43 AM
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Stacey wrote:
As well as making the images taken with those DSLR's look as pathetic as
35mm images do compared to MF film cameras. Maybe this will shut up

some of
the morons posting the "Dslr's are taking over medformat" garbage that
get's posted almost daily now in the film newsgroups.


This new Mamiya *is* a digital SLR, so I expect it will re-enforce
the position.


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Old September 30th 04, 05:39 AM
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In article ,
Alan Browne wrote:

deryck lant wrote:

The new 22 Meg Mamiya ZD 645 format DSLR with 36x48mm imager is rumoured
to sell at around 10K US Dollars:

http://www.letsgodigital.org/html/ev...iya/ZD_en.html


According to the article above, 10K *euros*, not dollars. About US$12K.

Pity.
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Old September 30th 04, 06:23 AM
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Bryan Olson wrote:

Stacey wrote:
As well as making the images taken with those DSLR's look as pathetic
as 35mm images do compared to MF film cameras. Maybe this will shut up

some of
the morons posting the "Dslr's are taking over medformat" garbage that
get's posted almost daily now in the film newsgroups.


This new Mamiya *is* a digital SLR, so I expect it will re-enforce
the position.




Like DUH, I meant the APS size digtial rebel ones people keep bragging
about.
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Old September 30th 04, 06:23 AM
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Bryan Olson wrote:

Stacey wrote:
As well as making the images taken with those DSLR's look as pathetic
as 35mm images do compared to MF film cameras. Maybe this will shut up

some of
the morons posting the "Dslr's are taking over medformat" garbage that
get's posted almost daily now in the film newsgroups.


This new Mamiya *is* a digital SLR, so I expect it will re-enforce
the position.




Like DUH, I meant the APS size digtial rebel ones people keep bragging
about.
--

Stacey
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Old September 30th 04, 07:44 AM
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Stacey wrote:
Bryan Olson wrote:
Stacey wrote:
Maybe this will shut up some of the morons posting the "Dslr's
are taking over medformat" garbage that get's posted almost
daily now in the film newsgroups.


This new Mamiya *is* a digital SLR, so I expect it will re-enforce
the position.


Like DUH, I meant the APS size digtial rebel ones people keep bragging
about.


Well now, the base of the issue is what the people you call
"morons" meant. Are they really claiming, "almost daily now"
that "the APS size digital rebel" cameras "are taking over
medium format"? I had not seen that.


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Old September 30th 04, 03:19 PM
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From: deryck lant


The new 22 Meg Mamiya ZD 645 format DSLR with 36x48mm imager is rumoured
to sell at around 10K US Dollars:

http://www.letsgodigital.org/html/ev...iya/ZD_en.html

If so it will dampen down the price of the new 1DsMkII Canon and maybe
influence Nikon as well.


Couldn't quite tell from the link but I THINK it's $12,000 for the
basic camera
body (based on the 10,000 euro price mentioned?) and THEN you gotta
buy the 22
Mpixel back separately. You can also use existing film backs with it.


The Phase One 22 Mpixel back (P25) retails for around $30,000 (and the 16
Mpixel back for $17,000) so if the ZD with a similar back is anywhere
close to
this in price I don't think Canon will be worried just yet


$10,000 US for the body and the back would be a relative bargain and
definitely
put pressure on Canon though.


The Letsgodigital article was referring specifically to the
specification of the
Mamiya ZD Digital Camera when it mentioned 10K euro. There is in
addition a ZD
digital back for some existing Mamiya Bodies. All very confusing.


If the price is correct a lot of studio photographers will find it a
compelling
choice. Landscape too as the weight will be slightly less than the
1DsMkII. Nice
light Lithium Ion battery helps.


Brochu

http://www.legene.com/planet/mamiya_zd.pdf

Another Hands On:

http://pdnonline.com/photodistrictne..._id=1000649384

Deryck
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Old September 30th 04, 03:23 PM
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The message
from Stacey contains these words:

Alan Browne wrote:






http://www.letsgodigital.org/html/ev...iya/ZD_en.html

If so it will dampen down the price of the new 1DsMkII Canon and maybe
influence
Nikon as well.



As well as making the images taken with those DSLR's look as pathetic as
35mm images do compared to MF film cameras. Maybe this will shut up some of
the morons posting the "Dslr's are taking over medformat" garbage that
get's posted almost daily now in the film newsgroups. Somehow I doubt it
will.


Brochu

http://www.legene.com/planet/mamiya_zd.pdf

Another Hands On:

http://pdnonline.com/photodistrictne..._id=1000649384

Deryck
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Old September 30th 04, 04:27 PM
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Stacey wrote:
Alan Browne wrote:





http://www.letsgodigital.org/html/ev...iya/ZD_en.html

If so it will dampen down the price of the new 1DsMkII Canon and maybe
influence
Nikon as well.


Wrong person quoted.

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