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New Mamiya 645 may influence DSLR prices
The new 22 Meg Mamiya ZD 645 format DSLR with 36x48mm imager is rumoured
to sell at around 10K US Dollars: http://www.letsgodigital.org/html/ev...iya/ZD_en.html If so it will dampen down the price of the new 1DsMkII Canon and maybe influence Nikon as well. Deryck |
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from dy (Bill Hilton) contains these words: From: deryck lant The new 22 Meg Mamiya ZD 645 format DSLR with 36x48mm imager is rumoured to sell at around 10K US Dollars: http://www.letsgodigital.org/html/ev...iya/ZD_en.html If so it will dampen down the price of the new 1DsMkII Canon and maybe influence Nikon as well. Couldn't quite tell from the link but I THINK it's $12,000 for the basic camera body (based on the 10,000 euro price mentioned?) and THEN you gotta buy the 22 Mpixel back separately. You can also use existing film backs with it. The Phase One 22 Mpixel back (P25) retails for around $30,000 (and the 16 Mpixel back for $17,000) so if the ZD with a similar back is anywhere close to this in price I don't think Canon will be worried just yet $10,000 US for the body and the back would be a relative bargain and definitely put pressure on Canon though. The Letsgodigital article was referring specifically to the specification of the Mamiya ZD Digital Camera when it mentioned 10K euro. There is in addition a ZD digital back for some existing Mamiya Bodies. All very confusing. If the price is correct a lot of studio photographers will find it a compelling choice. Landscape too as the weight will be slightly less than the 1DsMkII. Nice light Lithium Ion battery helps. Interesting times ahead! Deryck |
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"Tony" wrote in
. com: If at all it, would influence them upward. You're always so negative. -- "We are twice armed if we fight with faith." (Plato) -Richard Cockburn |
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deryck lant wrote:
The new 22 Meg Mamiya ZD 645 format DSLR with 36x48mm imager is rumoured to sell at around 10K US Dollars: http://www.letsgodigital.org/html/ev...iya/ZD_en.html If so it will dampen down the price of the new 1DsMkII Canon and maybe influence Nikon as well. Not sure about the effect on prices for "35mm" format DSLR's, if any. However, this announcement is very interesting in its presentation of a body with integrated digital _and_ a same spec back for the 645AF series. It is odd in that the A/D is 14 bit/chan, saved as 12 bit/chan. While there is noise in the bottom end, it seems they are throwing out some detail... (How the 1Ds Mk II compares in this regard remains unclear ... to date all we've seen about it are mentions of processed 24 bit ... 8b/chan no specifics on A/D or maximum saveable dynamic (that I've seen)). They don't mention the sync speed, probably the ordinary 1/125 of the other 645AF's (unless a leaf shutter'd lens is used which is not always the case). Cheers, Alan -- -- rec.photo.equipment.35mm user resource: -- http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- e-meil: there's no such thing as a FreeLunch.-- |
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The message
from Alan Browne contains these words: deryck lant wrote: The new 22 Meg Mamiya ZD 645 format DSLR with 36x48mm imager is rumoured to sell at around 10K US Dollars: http://www.letsgodigital.org/html/ev...iya/ZD_en.html If so it will dampen down the price of the new 1DsMkII Canon and maybe influence Nikon as well. Not sure about the effect on prices for "35mm" format DSLR's, if any. However, this announcement is very interesting in its presentation of a body with integrated digital _and_ a same spec back for the 645AF series. It is odd in that the A/D is 14 bit/chan, saved as 12 bit/chan. While there is noise in the bottom end, it seems they are throwing out some detail... (How the 1Ds Mk II compares in this regard remains unclear ... to date all we've seen about it are mentions of processed 24 bit ... 8b/chan no specifics on A/D or maximum saveable dynamic (that I've seen)). They don't mention the sync speed, probably the ordinary 1/125 of the other 645AF's (unless a leaf shutter'd lens is used which is not always the case). Yes, Letsgodigital state sync speed remains at 1/125. Some more specs at dpreview, with a few typos: http://www.dpreview.com/articles/photokina2004/Mamiya/ If the price really is 10K euro then there will be a long waiting list. Deryck |
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The message
from Alan Browne contains these words: deryck lant wrote: The new 22 Meg Mamiya ZD 645 format DSLR with 36x48mm imager is rumoured to sell at around 10K US Dollars: http://www.letsgodigital.org/html/ev...iya/ZD_en.html If so it will dampen down the price of the new 1DsMkII Canon and maybe influence Nikon as well. Not sure about the effect on prices for "35mm" format DSLR's, if any. However, this announcement is very interesting in its presentation of a body with integrated digital _and_ a same spec back for the 645AF series. It is odd in that the A/D is 14 bit/chan, saved as 12 bit/chan. While there is noise in the bottom end, it seems they are throwing out some detail... (How the 1Ds Mk II compares in this regard remains unclear ... to date all we've seen about it are mentions of processed 24 bit ... 8b/chan no specifics on A/D or maximum saveable dynamic (that I've seen)). They don't mention the sync speed, probably the ordinary 1/125 of the other 645AF's (unless a leaf shutter'd lens is used which is not always the case). Yes, Letsgodigital state sync speed remains at 1/125. Some more specs at dpreview, with a few typos: http://www.dpreview.com/articles/photokina2004/Mamiya/ If the price really is 10K euro then there will be a long waiting list. Deryck |
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Tony wrote:
If at all it, would influence them upward. That would surprise me. I think the advantage by comparison for Canon is that they offer some faster lenses, and some longer telephoto choices than Mamiya have available. The other issue is that only some photographers can really make full use of a 22 MP offering. Working with even larger image files also kills some of the digital time advantage when post processing. At this point in time 22 MP is a limited market. My guess is that the Kodak DCS full frame digital SLR provides more pricing pressure on Canon than the Mamiya ever could do. I think professionals wanting many MP cameras would look at either Canon or Kodak first, unless they already had several Mamiya lenses. Ciao! Gordon Moat A G Studio http://www.allgstudio.com |
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"Alan Browne" wrote in message
... deryck lant wrote: The new 22 Meg Mamiya ZD 645 format DSLR with 36x48mm imager is rumoured to sell at around 10K US Dollars: http://www.letsgodigital.org/html/ev...iya/ZD_en.html If so it will dampen down the price of the new 1DsMkII Canon and maybe influence Nikon as well. Not sure about the effect on prices for "35mm" format DSLR's, if any. Sensor prices rely on the economy of scale, if the Mamiya sensor sells in volume, whether in a Mamiya, Bronica, Hasselblad, the end result is the prices will come down. If this sensor was split in half we would then have to 24x36mm sensors. This is a simplistic view, but silicon sort of works like that... |
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The new 22 Meg Mamiya ZD 645 format DSLR with 36x48mm imager is rumoured
to sell at around 10K US Dollars: Gee, that much money would buy me a year off with film and supplies. |
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