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Old August 29th 07, 03:12 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Rich
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Default P&S offerings are triggers for rage

How else is someone supposed to react to being told a model of Olympus/
whatever will only be sold by....Walmart, or that the new Ricoh toy
has a....youtube mode!!! Saints preserve us...

Dear stupid, f------ camera companies: What is the P&S, pocketable
with at least a 2/3rds sensor and a fixed or modest zoom HIGH QUALITY
lens????

I'm at the point where I'm thinking the ONLY thing that might work
well would be the small Olympus E-410 DSLR coupled to a Pentax pancake
21mm lens.....

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Old August 29th 07, 03:37 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
ASAAR
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On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:12:07 -0700, Rich trilled and trolled:

How else is someone supposed to react to being told a model of Olympus/
whatever will only be sold by....Walmart, or that the new Ricoh toy
has a....youtube mode!!!


Are you sure that it's a completely different model? That's been
done before by other manufacturers, putting a different model number
on an existing camera, and adding a few 'extras' (case, rechargeable
batteries, charger) not included in the non-Walmart version. I
described one of these cases here about two years ago with (IIRC) a
Fuji A345 appearing as a Fuji A360 in Walmart.


Saints preserve us...


Holy cow! These silly messages of yours always get you in a jam.


I'm at the point where I'm thinking . . .


Sorry, but no. You haven't reached that point yet.

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Old August 29th 07, 04:29 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Matt Ion
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ASAAR wrote:
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:12:07 -0700, Rich trilled and trolled:

How else is someone supposed to react to being told a model of Olympus/
whatever will only be sold by....Walmart, or that the new Ricoh toy
has a....youtube mode!!!


Are you sure that it's a completely different model? That's been
done before by other manufacturers, putting a different model number
on an existing camera, and adding a few 'extras' (case, rechargeable
batteries, charger) not included in the non-Walmart version. I
described one of these cases here about two years ago with (IIRC) a
Fuji A345 appearing as a Fuji A360 in Walmart.


As for a "YouTube" version... I would think that mostly just means it
records video directly to whatever format is preferred for upload to
YouTube (DivX, I think)... that and some different packaging/labeling).

I'm at the point where I'm thinking . . .


Sorry, but no. You haven't reached that point yet.


ROFL!!!
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Old August 29th 07, 11:30 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Mark B.
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"Rich" wrote in message
s.com...
How else is someone supposed to react to being told a model of Olympus/
whatever will only be sold by....Walmart, or that the new Ricoh toy
has a....youtube mode!!!


You're confused (not surprised). It's the Casio with a YouTube mode:

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0708/07...xv8exz1080.asp


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Old August 29th 07, 11:34 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Mark B.
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Default P&S offerings are triggers for rage


"ASAAR" wrote in message
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On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:12:07 -0700, Rich trilled and trolled:

How else is someone supposed to react to being told a model of Olympus/
whatever will only be sold by....Walmart, or that the new Ricoh toy
has a....youtube mode!!!


Are you sure that it's a completely different model? That's been
done before by other manufacturers, putting a different model number
on an existing camera, and adding a few 'extras' (case, rechargeable
batteries, charger) not included in the non-Walmart version. I
described one of these cases here about two years ago with (IIRC) a
Fuji A345 appearing as a Fuji A360 in Walmart.



Yup, and not just cameras nor just Wal-Mart. Many retailers want
'exclusive' products in their stores, so they it's not uncommon to ask
manufacturers to come up with something unique. Rather than go through the
expense of actually creating a whole new product, the manufacturer will use
an existing product and make a few cosmetic changes or add features that
don't require much investment.

Mark


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Old August 29th 07, 03:09 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Dave Cohen
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Default P&S offerings are triggers for rage

Mark B. wrote:
"ASAAR" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:12:07 -0700, Rich trilled and trolled:

How else is someone supposed to react to being told a model of Olympus/
whatever will only be sold by....Walmart, or that the new Ricoh toy
has a....youtube mode!!!

Are you sure that it's a completely different model? That's been
done before by other manufacturers, putting a different model number
on an existing camera, and adding a few 'extras' (case, rechargeable
batteries, charger) not included in the non-Walmart version. I
described one of these cases here about two years ago with (IIRC) a
Fuji A345 appearing as a Fuji A360 in Walmart.



Yup, and not just cameras nor just Wal-Mart. Many retailers want
'exclusive' products in their stores, so they it's not uncommon to ask
manufacturers to come up with something unique. Rather than go through the
expense of actually creating a whole new product, the manufacturer will use
an existing product and make a few cosmetic changes or add features that
don't require much investment.

Mark



It's true Walmart and others use a unique model number. However, I
suspect it's not so much for the retailer as the manufacturer. Walmart
(and others) get favorable pricing due to their large purchase volumes.
Changing a model number gives some protection to other sellers not
getting as good a deal and hence selling at a higher price. Walmart are
now selling emachines and I believe Dell. You need to carefully compare
specs to see how the Walmart model compares with what is sold elsewhere.
Dave Cohen
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Old August 29th 07, 03:20 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Jürgen Exner
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Dave Cohen wrote:
Mark B. wrote:
Yup, and not just cameras nor just Wal-Mart. Many retailers want
'exclusive' products in their stores, so they it's not uncommon to
ask manufacturers to come up with something unique. Rather than go
through the expense of actually creating a whole new product, the
manufacturer will use an existing product and make a few cosmetic
changes or add features that don't require much investment.


It's true Walmart and others use a unique model number. However, I
suspect it's not so much for the retailer as the manufacturer. [...]


Plus it saves the dealers from honoring their "Best Price Guarantee". If the
cheaper product at the competing store has a different model number than
it's not the same product, isn't it?

You need
to carefully compare specs to see how the Walmart model compares with
what is sold elsewhere.


Quite true! Almost fell for it when buying a welder at HomeDepot until I
realized that although the model number was similar to the typical
medium-level welder it actually was a low-end model with some useless
gadgets added.

jue


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Old August 29th 07, 03:29 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Rich
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Default P&S offerings are triggers for rage

On Aug 29, 6:30 am, "Mark B." wrote:
"Rich" wrote in message

s.com...

How else is someone supposed to react to being told a model of Olympus/
whatever will only be sold by....Walmart, or that the new Ricoh toy
has a....youtube mode!!!


You're confused (not surprised). It's the Casio with a YouTube mode:

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0708/07...xv8exz1080.asp


Big deal, Casio, Ricoh, Samsung, Kodak. What is the difference?

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Old August 29th 07, 03:29 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
irwell
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On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 06:30:34 -0400, "Mark B."
wrote:


"Rich" wrote in message
ps.com...
How else is someone supposed to react to being told a model of Olympus/
whatever will only be sold by....Walmart, or that the new Ricoh toy
has a....youtube mode!!!


You're confused (not surprised). It's the Casio with a YouTube mode:

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0708/07...xv8exz1080.asp

The Ricoh Caplio R7 just announced seems a pretty powerful camera,
no view finder apart from the LCD, shame!
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Old August 29th 07, 05:33 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default P&S offerings are triggers for rage

On Aug 29, 10:29 am, irwell wrote:
On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 06:30:34 -0400, "Mark B."

wrote:

"Rich" wrote in message
ps.com...
How else is someone supposed to react to being told a model of Olympus/
whatever will only be sold by....Walmart, or that the new Ricoh toy
has a....youtube mode!!!


You're confused (not surprised). It's the Casio with a YouTube mode:


http://www.dpreview.com/news/0708/07...xv8exz1080.asp


The Ricoh Caplio R7 just announced seems a pretty powerful camera,
no view finder apart from the LCD, shame!


Optical viewfinders on P&S cameras are useless. The LCD is much better
for framing a shot. On P&S cameras I've owned that had a viewfinder I
literally NEVER used it. Now I have a great camera without a
viewfinder (Panasonic LX-1) and I have never missed it.

-Gniewko

 




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