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Back in 1982 - in the USA - how many folk taking photographs would have
still been using black and white film for everyday snapshots? Just a rough guesstimate is all I'm after! TIA for any ideas. -- David B. |
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On 2017-04-24 15:37:21 +0000, "David B." said:
Back in 1982 - in the USA - how many folk taking photographs would have still been using black and white film for everyday snapshots? Just a rough guesstimate is all I'm after! TIA for any ideas. In 1982 for snapshots, probably less than 5%, probably much less. The thing to differentiate here is the hobbyist/enthusiast photographer who would be shooting and much of his/her own processing from the snapshot shooter. In 1982 the snapshot shooter was using Instamatics, disposable cameras, and 35mm P&S cameras, with most processing done at photo kiosks, and mail-in processors. Today they are using phone cameras and very few bother with processing or printing any of their snapshots. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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On 24/04/2017 19:31, Savageduck wrote:
On 2017-04-24 15:37:21 +0000, "David B." said: Back in 1982 - in the USA - how many folk taking photographs would have still been using black and white film for everyday snapshots? Just a rough guesstimate is all I'm after! TIA for any ideas. In 1982 for snapshots, probably less than 5%, probably much less. The thing to differentiate here is the hobbyist/enthusiast photographer who would be shooting and much of his/her own processing from the snapshot shooter. In 1982 the snapshot shooter was using Instamatics, disposable cameras, and 35mm P&S cameras, with most processing done at photo kiosks, and mail-in processors. Today they are using phone cameras and very few bother with processing or printing any of their snapshots. That's much as I suspected. Thanks, Savageduck :-) -- "Do something wonderful, people may imitate it." (Albert Schweitzer) |
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On 2017-04-24, David B. wrote:
On 24/04/2017 19:31, Savageduck wrote: On 2017-04-24 15:37:21 +0000, "David B." said: Back in 1982 - in the USA - how many folk taking photographs would have still been using black and white film for everyday snapshots? Just a rough guesstimate is all I'm after! TIA for any ideas. In 1982 for snapshots, probably less than 5%, probably much less. The thing to differentiate here is the hobbyist/enthusiast photographer who would be shooting and much of his/her own processing from the snapshot shooter. In 1982 the snapshot shooter was using Instamatics, disposable cameras, and 35mm P&S cameras, with most processing done at photo kiosks, and mail-in processors. Today they are using phone cameras and very few bother with processing or printing any of their snapshots. That's much as I suspected. Thanks, Savageduck :-) I don't know about the USA, but in the UK by the mid 1980s it was difficult to find commercial black and white developing and printing services that were not either very expensive or very bad. The 'chromogenic' monochrome films that were processed using the same 'C-41' chemistry as colour print films, appeared around this time and were a partial solution for those wishing to take monochrome pictures and have the developing and processing done for them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C-41_process#C-41_.22chromogenic.22_black-and-white_films -- -- ^^^^^^^^^^ -- Whiskers -- ~~~~~~~~~~ |
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Whiskers Wrote in message:
On 2017-04-24, David B. wrote: On 24/04/2017 19:31, Savageduck wrote: On 2017-04-24 15:37:21 +0000, "David B." said: Back in 1982 - in the USA - how many folk taking photographs would have still been using black and white film for everyday snapshots? Just a rough guesstimate is all I'm after! TIA for any ideas. In 1982 for snapshots, probably less than 5%, probably much less. The thing to differentiate here is the hobbyist/enthusiast photographer who would be shooting and much of his/her own processing from the snapshot shooter. In 1982 the snapshot shooter was using Instamatics, disposable cameras, and 35mm P&S cameras, with most processing done at photo kiosks, and mail-in processors. Today they are using phone cameras and very few bother with processing or printing any of their snapshots. That's much as I suspected. Thanks, Savageduck :-) I don't know about the USA, but in the UK by the mid 1980s it was difficult to find commercial black and white developing and printing services that were not either very expensive or very bad. The 'chromogenic' monochrome films that were processed using the same 'C-41' chemistry as colour print films, appeared around this time and were a partial solution for those wishing to take monochrome pictures and have the developing and processing done for them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C-41_process#C-41_.22chromogenic.22_black-and-white_films I remember those. This is what made me refrain from trying them out: "These films work like any other C-41 film; development causes dyes to form in the emulsion." I continued with T-Max and me own little tanks!ヅ Ilford seem make them still, if I read the article right so it ain't too late yet... -- -- ^^^^^^^^^^ -- Whiskers -- Bats can't tell us apart! ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On 25/04/2017 10:48, Whiskers wrote:
On 2017-04-24, David B. wrote: On 24/04/2017 19:31, Savageduck wrote: On 2017-04-24 15:37:21 +0000, "David B." said: Back in 1982 - in the USA - how many folk taking photographs would have still been using black and white film for everyday snapshots? Just a rough guesstimate is all I'm after! TIA for any ideas. In 1982 for snapshots, probably less than 5%, probably much less. The thing to differentiate here is the hobbyist/enthusiast photographer who would be shooting and much of his/her own processing from the snapshot shooter. In 1982 the snapshot shooter was using Instamatics, disposable cameras, and 35mm P&S cameras, with most processing done at photo kiosks, and mail-in processors. Today they are using phone cameras and very few bother with processing or printing any of their snapshots. That's much as I suspected. Thanks, Savageduck :-) I don't know about the USA, but in the UK by the mid 1980s it was difficult to find commercial black and white developing and printing services that were not either very expensive or very bad. The 'chromogenic' monochrome films that were processed using the same 'C-41' chemistry as colour print films, appeared around this time and were a partial solution for those wishing to take monochrome pictures and have the developing and processing done for them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C-41_process#C-41_.22chromogenic.22_black-and-white_films Many thanks, 'Whiskers'! :-) That's much as I remember things here in the UK. -- Regards, David B. |
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On 2017-04-25, android wrote:
Whiskers Wrote in message: On 2017-04-24, David B. wrote: On 24/04/2017 19:31, Savageduck wrote: On 2017-04-24 15:37:21 +0000, "David B." said: Back in 1982 - in the USA - how many folk taking photographs would have still been using black and white film for everyday snapshots? Just a rough guesstimate is all I'm after! TIA for any ideas. In 1982 for snapshots, probably less than 5%, probably much less. The thing to differentiate here is the hobbyist/enthusiast photographer who would be shooting and much of his/her own processing from the snapshot shooter. In 1982 the snapshot shooter was using Instamatics, disposable cameras, and 35mm P&S cameras, with most processing done at photo kiosks, and mail-in processors. Today they are using phone cameras and very few bother with processing or printing any of their snapshots. That's much as I suspected. Thanks, Savageduck :-) I don't know about the USA, but in the UK by the mid 1980s it was difficult to find commercial black and white developing and printing services that were not either very expensive or very bad. The 'chromogenic' monochrome films that were processed using the same 'C-41' chemistry as colour print films, appeared around this time and were a partial solution for those wishing to take monochrome pictures and have the developing and processing done for them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C-41_process#C-41_.22chromogenic.22_black-and-white_films I remember those. This is what made me refrain from trying them out: "These films work like any other C-41 film; development causes dyes to form in the emulsion." I continued with T-Max and me own little tanks!ヅ Ilford seem make them still, if I read the article right so it ain't too late yet... I remember having fun with the 'multi-speed' aspect of Ilford XP400, but I never got around to doing my own C-41 processing. I still have my old darkroom kit in boxes somewhere, and my cameras. I should dust them off! -- -- ^^^^^^^^^^ -- Whiskers -- ~~~~~~~~~~ |
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Whisky-dave Wrote in message:
On Tuesday, 25 April 2017 18:46:44 UTC+1, android wrote: On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 18:22:06 +0100, Whiskers wrote in message : On 2017-04-25, android wrote: Whiskers Wrote in message: On 2017-04-24, David B. wrote: On 24/04/2017 19:31, Savageduck wrote: On 2017-04-24 15:37:21 +0000, "David B." said: Back in 1982 - in the USA - how many folk taking photographs would have still been using black and white film for everyday snapshots? Just a rough guesstimate is all I'm after! TIA for any ideas. In 1982 for snapshots, probably less than 5%, probably much less. The thing to differentiate here is the hobbyist/enthusiast photographer who would be shooting and much of his/her own processing from the snapshot shooter. In 1982 the snapshot shooter was using Instamatics, disposable cameras, and 35mm P&S cameras, with most processing done at photo kiosks, and mail-in processors. Today they are using phone cameras and very few bother with processing or printing any of their snapshots. That's much as I suspected. Thanks, Savageduck :-) I don't know about the USA, but in the UK by the mid 1980s it was difficult to find commercial black and white developing and printing services that were not either very expensive or very bad. The 'chromogenic' monochrome films that were processed using the same 'C-41' chemistry as colour print films, appeared around this time and were a partial solution for those wishing to take monochrome pictures and have the developing and processing done for them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ C-41_process#C-41_.22chromogenic.22_black-and-white_films I remember those. This is what made me refrain from trying them out: "These films work like any other C-41 film; development causes dyes to form in the emulsion." I continued with T-Max and me own little tanks!ヅ Ilford seem make them still, if I read the article right so it ain't too late yet... I remember having fun with the 'multi-speed' aspect of Ilford XP400, but I never got around to doing my own C-41 processing. I still have my old darkroom kit in boxes somewhere, and my cameras. I should dust them off! T-Max is regularly BW so I used D76. I used acuspeed and HP4 and HP5 I started with out of date HP3 in 50ft rolls. All the color that I did was some Cibachrome but that took allot of time and my "lab" was a tad too adhoky for that in the long run. I don't rememeber Cibachrome taking much more time than doing B&W although getting the temps right was more tricky. You did have to balance the colors, besides tonality a bit and work with drums and stuff... I tried agfachrome too but never really liked the colours compared with Cibachrome. Agfachrome was a film... I do rememeber the interesting smells of Cibachrome and the fizzing when adding the neutralizer. I'm sure you did... :-! -- Bats can't tell us apart! ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On 2017-04-26, Whisky-dave wrote:
On Tuesday, 25 April 2017 18:46:44 UTC+1, android wrote: On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 18:22:06 +0100, Whiskers wrote in message : On 2017-04-25, android wrote: Whiskers Wrote in message: On 2017-04-24, David B. wrote: On 24/04/2017 19:31, Savageduck wrote: On 2017-04-24 15:37:21 +0000, "David B." said: Back in 1982 - in the USA - how many folk taking photographs would have still been using black and white film for everyday snapshots? Just a rough guesstimate is all I'm after! TIA for any ideas. In 1982 for snapshots, probably less than 5%, probably much less. The thing to differentiate here is the hobbyist/enthusiast photographer who would be shooting and much of his/her own processing from the snapshot shooter. In 1982 the snapshot shooter was using Instamatics, disposable cameras, and 35mm P&S cameras, with most processing done at photo kiosks, and mail-in processors. Today they are using phone cameras and very few bother with processing or printing any of their snapshots. That's much as I suspected. Thanks, Savageduck :-) I don't know about the USA, but in the UK by the mid 1980s it was difficult to find commercial black and white developing and printing services that were not either very expensive or very bad. The 'chromogenic' monochrome films that were processed using the same 'C-41' chemistry as colour print films, appeared around this time and were a partial solution for those wishing to take monochrome pictures and have the developing and processing done for them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ C-41_process#C-41_.22chromogenic.22_black-and-white_films I remember those. This is what made me refrain from trying them out: "These films work like any other C-41 film; development causes dyes to form in the emulsion." I continued with T-Max and me own little tanks!ヅ Ilford seem make them still, if I read the article right so it ain't too late yet... I remember having fun with the 'multi-speed' aspect of Ilford XP400, but I never got around to doing my own C-41 processing. I still have my old darkroom kit in boxes somewhere, and my cameras. I should dust them off! T-Max is regularly BW so I used D76. I used acuspeed and HP4 and HP5 I started with out of date HP3 in 50ft rolls. All the color that I did was some Cibachrome but that took allot of time and my "lab" was a tad too adhoky for that in the long run. I don't rememeber Cibachrome taking much more time than doing B&W although getting the temps right was more tricky. I tried agfachrome too but never really liked the colours compared with Cibachrome. I do rememeber the interesting smells of Cibachrome and the fizzing when adding the neutralizer. I had a friend with access to a 'proper' club darkroom with Cibachrome processing available; she produced some excellent prints for me from my 6x6 slides. But she didn't enjoy it. My own darkroom was a temporary thing in the bathroom, and strictly black and white. -- -- ^^^^^^^^^^ -- Whiskers -- ~~~~~~~~~~ |
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