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The "tiny" store
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Whisky-dave wrote: Our local chemist (US drug store) sells cameras the ones in the window with the free film offer. The kind of cameras with film included inside of them? So they are still made. There you go: Live and learn... ;-) -- teleportation kills http://tinyurl.com/androidphotography |
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The "tiny" store
In article , Whisky-dave wrote:
Sandman: First, there's the Olympus section, which are two cabinets, I count 18 cameras in those cabinets. Though some seem to be in boxes, so let's round it up to 20 just for the sake of it. Whisky-dave: 20 is already far more than my camera shop used to stock. Sandman: That's very fascinating, but we're talking about Colonial here, not your camera shop. The how can you say colonail is a tiny store without refernecing it to anything else ? I *am* referencing it to something else, in the very post you replied to, With numbers and photos. For me the size of the store is directly proportional to the physical space it takes up, and NOT the number of cameras on display. Good for you. For me, it's a combination. A huge store with three camera models wouldn't earn the moniker "big camera store" in my book. It obivously would in yours. Sandman: Cool! For me, it's not. And remember, I'm the one that called it small, not you. Is that the same way I see sweden as a tiny country ?. Only around 9.5 million population , not much more than Londons supposed to be. Sure, I have no problem with you calling Sweden tiny and be in reference to population. We have pretty low population density, especially compared to England. But we're on par with USA, actually. Whisky-dave: I see this as a small shop both in size and stock levels. other way of telling are from entrances and exits small shops are allowed to have just one main entrance-exit larger shops have more and in the UK are reqiured by law due to the fire requlations to alloow more people in/out through the main doors. Sandman: Colonial might have had a back exit, but mind you - the actual STORE is fairly large, but the camera section only makes out 16% of the entire store. So now the store is fairly large and the camera section tiny at least that makes a little more sense. I cleared that up many days ago. And even talked about it in the post you just replied to. Whisky-dave: It's not huge to me either but far more than I'm used to seeing in just one shop, well new and DSLRs. Sandman: Good for you! That's how most people judge a bitn like relativity. Huh?? Maybe you've never been into a camera store with less than ~70 cameras to choose from but I have. Of course I have. Sandman: Just the P&S section of your normal camera store in here most likely have some 50 models of cameras. Whisky-dave: I don;t count P&S outlets as camera stores Sandman: Neither do I, which is why I didn't say anything like that. QUOTE "Sandman: Just the P&S section of your normal camera store in here most likely have some 50 models of cameras. " So what's the "P&S section of your normal camera store" actually mean. Didn't you stop to note that I mentioned P&S *section* and not P&S *outlet*? Noting that they have a section implies that there are other non-P&S sections. Sandman: Curiously, I didn't see a Canon section in Tony's photos, but as far as I can make out, there were some Canon cameras on the shelves in the unlabeled section. Whisky-dave: Try that on college cameras Sandman: Why? I don't care about "college cameras" in any capacity. Which is why you think colonial and other stores are tiny isn't it.? i.e you have no other referncies. I have, and posted about them in the very post you replied to. You're working hard to miss it all over and over again. Sandman: Just for reference, here's a shot which is a bit older, from a local camera sto http://sandman.net/files/cyberphoto.jpg In those two cabinets, there's 56 cameras, and I think there are about 8 or 10 such cabinets in the store, along with other display forms for cameras and such. So you may understand why I think Colonial was a bit small and had few cameras? Whisky-dave: and why I considered my camera store as being much smaller as it only had one such cabinet. Sandman: Again, "your" camera store is not the topic here. NO single camera store is the topic here when comparing sizes. Uh, sure they are. The claim was made about one specific store, so that one is certainly part of the topic. And the one who made the claim (hint: me) obviously had references in order to even make the claim. The other odd thing from that phot is the lack pricing tickets but perhaps that's just how differnt stores work. Here in the UK we tend to put the prices on the products especailly SH items. I'm assuming you're talking about Colonial here, because the photos from Cyberphoto shows many price tags, while some may be on the back or also lacking. Sandman: Here's another view, where you can see more cabinets in the background. http://sandman.net/files/cyberphoto2.jpg Whisky-dave: that shot makes the premisies look larger than colonail but does that make the colonial store small or tiny I don't think so. Sandman: Colonial's camera section certainly is tiny in comparison. Ah see now we're getting somewhere a comparision. Nope, it's where I've been all along. Sandman: Again, we have as many cameras in TWO cabinet's in Cyberphoto as all of Colonial, and there are many cabinets (more than seen in these images) So Cyberphoto seems to be the larger camera store I wonder if there are any larger ones. Of course, Scandinavian Photo, Eggeborns, Expert (depending on what store you visit) and a few more. If you're ever in London, be sure to visit Park Cameras, it's also huge, just so you have a reference. And Park Cameras is not in Sweden. And not in New York. -- Sandman[.net] |
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The "tiny" store
On 2014.04.28, 10:04 , android wrote:
In article , Whisky-dave wrote: Only around 9.5 million population , not much more than Londons supposed to be. I think that London is tiny compared with Mexico City... The "cities" are almost the same population at around 9M. The urban area of Mexico City has over 21M. The urban area of London has less than 12M, or 15M if you push that to what is referred to as "metropolitan London". So neither is 'tiny' but MC clearly has more people in and around it. -- "Big data can reduce anything to a single number, but you shouldn’t be fooled by the appearance of exactitude." -Gary Marcus and Ernest Davis, NYT, 2014.04.07 |
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The "tiny" store
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Alan Browne wrote: On 2014.04.28, 10:04 , android wrote: In article , Whisky-dave wrote: Only around 9.5 million population , not much more than Londons supposed to be. I think that London is tiny compared with Mexico City... The "cities" are almost the same population at around 9M. The urban area of Mexico City has over 21M. The urban area of London has less than 12M, or 15M if you push that to what is referred to as "metropolitan London". So neither is 'tiny' but MC clearly has more people in and around it. Thanks for your input. The CIA Fact Book (MC 19 million) and other statistics can give you all sorts of number but the fact is that Mexico City is a borderless megapolis that makes London with it's (according to Dave, Britt I assume) 10 million look tiny compared to it. I live in a town with about half a million. ;-/ -- teleportation kills http://tinyurl.com/androidphotography |
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On 2014-04-29 04:13:43 +0000, android said:
In article , Alan Browne wrote: On 2014.04.28, 10:04 , android wrote: In article , Whisky-dave wrote: Only around 9.5 million population , not much more than Londons supposed to be. I think that London is tiny compared with Mexico City... The "cities" are almost the same population at around 9M. The urban area of Mexico City has over 21M. The urban area of London has less than 12M, or 15M if you push that to what is referred to as "metropolitan London". So neither is 'tiny' but MC clearly has more people in and around it. Thanks for your input. The CIA Fact Book (MC 19 million) and other statistics can give you all sorts of number but the fact is that Mexico City is a borderless megapolis that makes London with it's (according to Dave, Britt I assume) 10 million look tiny compared to it. I live in a town with about half a million. ;-/ That's nice. I find myself fortunate to live 13 miles from a town of about 30,000, with a few larger towns within 45-90 minutes drive. However, if I ever feel like pounding my head with real crowds and all the irritation that brings, I have the Bay Area 3+ hours to the North, and the insufferable L.A. Basin 4+ hours to the South. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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The "tiny" store
In article 2014042821221729662-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom,
Savageduck wrote: On 2014-04-29 04:13:43 +0000, android said: --- I live in a town with about half a million. ;-/ That's nice. I find myself fortunate to live 13 miles from a town of about 30,000, with a few larger towns within 45-90 minutes drive. However, if I ever feel like pounding my head with real crowds and all the irritation that brings, I have the Bay Area 3+ hours to the North, and the insufferable L.A. Basin 4+ hours to the South. So you're living in the storms eye then. :-) -- teleportation kills http://tinyurl.com/androidphotography |
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The "tiny" store
In article , Whisky-dave wrote:
Sandman: I *am* referencing it to something else, in the very post you replied to, With numbers and photos. So a tiny store has less than 20 cameras for sale is that correct ? Where did you get that number from? Thin air? we might eb getting somewhere now. So colonail is a tiny store because it has less than 20 cameras for sale or can be seen on display. Why can't you read???? Sandman: Colonial might have had a back exit, but mind you - the actual STORE is fairly large, but the camera section only makes out 16% of the entire store. Whisky-dave: So now the store is fairly large and the camera section tiny at least that makes a little more sense. Sandman: I cleared that up many days ago. And even talked about it in the post you just replied to. So the tiny camera sttroe you first mention is now a fairly large store with a tiny camera section of about 20 cameras. As I've said many times. Whisky-dave: It's not huge to me either but far more than I'm used to seeing in just one shop, well new and DSLRs. Sandman: Sandman: Good for you! Whisky-dave: That's how most people judge a bitn like relativity. Sandman: Huh?? Things are relativel remmebr the TARDIS Time and RELATIVE dimentions in space. No. Are you seriously using the size of a fictional object in a discussion about relative size? I couldn't take much of what you said earlier seriously, but this really wins the price. Sandman: Of course I have. So this is where we differ I've been in camera stores with very few cameras and those with quite a few so my gauge is quite differtn from yoyrs which is what I implied in the first place. Which is obvious from the statement itself. Sandman: I have, and posted about them in the very post you replied to. You're working hard to miss it all over and over again. So what do yuo call camera stores that have less than 20 cameras on show or for sale including DSLR's that is, or when does a camera store cross from being timy to small or medium or large or massive to humongous that's all I['m wondering.... I don't have a sheet with number's I'm working with. Sandman: Colonial's camera section certainly is tiny in comparison. Whisky-dave: Ah see now we're getting somewhere a comparision. Sandman: Nope, it's where I've been all along. So when you said colonail was tiny what were you comparing it to, just the one cyberphoto or are there other stores. Other stores as well, of course. It's simmilar to me drinking if I said I had a lot to drink (alcohol) would you be able to judge how much I'd drink ? I think you drink all the time. Whisky-dave: So Cyberphoto seems to be the larger camera store I wonder if there are any larger ones. Sandman: Of course, Scandinavian Photo, Eggeborns, Expert (depending on what store you visit) and a few more. If you're ever in London, I'm rarely out of London :-) Sandman: be sure to visit Park Cameras, it's also huge, just so you have a reference. also huge with refernce to what other shop is also huge, perhaps it's your understanding and use of words but if someone uses the term "also" they are matching and comparing it with another. You've not said that any other store is huge so I'm not sure how to see this also statement. I just listed a few stores when you asked about whether there were any larger ones. So I obviously wasn't in reference to small stores. Do learn to read. So you live in London and have never been to Park Cameras. That's a bit embarassing. -- Sandman[.net] |
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The "tiny" store
In article , Tony Cooper wrote:
Sandman: I *am* referencing it to something else, in the very post you replied to, With numbers and photos. Whisky-dave: So a tiny store has less than 20 cameras for sale is that correct ? Sandman: Where did you get that number from? Thin air? It is inaccurate and unsupported, but - then - so was that figure you came up with. He's just come up with a different inaccurate figure from yours. My number may certainly be inaccurate, for sure, but it was hardly unsupported. I gave support for my number, and was generous in the estimate. I never claimed that it was an exact number. You would have known that if you could read English to save your life. -- Sandman[.net] |
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The "tiny" store
In article , Whisky-dave wrote:
Whisky-dave: So a tiny store has less than 20 cameras for sale is that correct ? Sandman: Where did you get that number from? Thin air? sandman: " count 18 cameras in those cabinets. Though some seem to be in boxes, so let's round it up to 20 just for the sake of it. " So what were you refering to when you said round it up to 20 ? That was my entire post, was it? What's this about only reading some 10% of any given post and then post as if that's all I ever wrote? Whisky-dave: So the tiny camera store you first mention is now a fairly large store with a tiny camera section of about 20 cameras. Sandman: As I've said many times. So how comes you ask ? I didn't. Sandman: Where did you get that number from? Thin air? No, NOT thin air but your post "sandman: " count 18 cameras in those cabinets. Though some seem to be in boxes, so let's round it up to 20 just for the sake of it. "" Why are you repeating this? I only wrote that once in my post. You're doing tons of quote-mangling here. Sandman: Huh?? Whisky-dave: Things are relativel remmebr the TARDIS Time and RELATIVE dimentions in space. Sandman: No. Short No, I'm rather tall. (see, I can cut away huge parts of your post as well and pretend you said something else) Sandman: I don't have a sheet with number's I'm working with. So how did you decide to refer to colonail and cyberphoto as tiny stores What is wrong with you? When did I refer to Cyberphoto as a tiny store? Shouldn't you be sobering up somewhere? Whisky-dave: So when you said colonail was tiny what were you comparing it to, just the one cyberphoto or are there other stores. Sandman: Other stores as well, of course. So you must have some predefined criteria for saying the word tiny. Which isn't based in an actual number. I don't see a great deal of differnce in size between park cameras and cyberphoto from the pictures. I never said there was, so I have no idea why you're making a note of that. Which is why I think college cameras... I don't care about "college cameras". Sandman: I just listed a few stores when you asked about whether there were any larger ones. As I woanted to understand when you'd consider a store to be no longer tiny And now you know, if you can read. You're welcome. -- Sandman[.net] |
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